[For Sale] VFC B.A.R. m1918 A2 (with metal case)

Lemming

I'm selling a VFC B.A.R. m1918 A2 (with original packaging & manual) and adding a metal case that is flight-capable (i.e. is lockable) although I'm not impressed with it and which I just don't use any more since I have my stormcase.

The BAR has been skirmished once - about a year ago and tbh she's just lying there inside that case doing nothing. It's had at most 500 BBs put through it since I used it for two games at HRTA (so about all of 40 mins to 1 hour), and besides some slight scratches to the wood on the left side of the butt-stock from my webbing and belt (and tbh gives a little 'authenticity' as it were) the BAR is in very good condition.

Performance-wise it's had nothing done to it so firing at stock is under 1j (roughly 300fps with .2g actually). If I recall the chrono reading at HRTA with .25g Bbs from a year ago roughly 260-70fps. I'll need to do another chrono reading later.

The case is not in perfect condition having been used for flight travel (one return flight from south-hampton airport) and as such does have some damage to it. All locks (two combination and two clasp) are in working however and the frame has not been compromised. It has foam internals which have been hacked to fit stuff however.

As for reasons for selling? The BAR has been skirmished once. Although she's a work of art I just don't use her unfortunately. And the only case I have that's long enough to fit is the flight case - which I don't use since I have a storm case now.

Asking price:

I'm asking for €800 for the BAR and the case (I will not split nor am I open to trade)

The BAR was originally €950-ish (from eirsoft as a special order), and it should be noted that the price - if one uses fire-support as an indicator - has actually gone up since. They used to retail around gb£750 and are now gb£1025. The case was €140 from a shop in Stillorgan, Dublin.

Edit: Location is Dublin, so pickup or delivery within the adjourning areas. Given the size and weight of this, I'd really not bother asking how much postage would be. Unless you want it couriered ...

Pictures:





More pictures of the BAR here, and I'll take some pictures later of the scratches to the stock as well as pictures of the case.

I appreciate that this is an expensive piece of kit, so unless you *want* this, I'd expect anyone serious about it to want to see it first before committing.

Lemming

Ok, the much promised (and late 'scratch' pictures and case)

First the BAR front wood furniture:



As you can see, light scratching, the most significant being the one mid-way along the furniture block.

BAR Stock furniture (bottom):



Scratching is a little more pronounced than on the front block, although the camera flash makes it look more harsh & noticeable than it actually is to the naked eye.

BAR Stock furniture (top):



Unfortunately this picture turned out a little crap since the flash caught the curvature of the stock, which is where the scratches are, although they are again very light.

The case has seen two flights (Dublin-Southampton & return) and beyond that used to transport a Steyr to HRTA (old site) a few times.

Case with BAR:



Case top:



Damage to bottom right hand corner (some cover peeling but case frame intact), with a lot of dust. Probably should have cleaned it. There is some scratching from the flights, but most of what makes that case look battered is actually the dust. Whoops

Case damage:



basically, the panelling material has peeled back a bit to reveal the frame underneath, which is unbroken.

dogcompany2ndba

hi mate, how many mags does this come with?

Lemming

dogcompany2ndba wrote: »

hi mate, how many mags does this come with?

Just the one mag that came with the BAR (190 round winding if I recall).

I bought this just after release so the additional mags hadn't been made available. When they were eventually released I just never got around to getting any more since I hadn't been skirmishing the AEG.

Viper Antidote

Are you including a battery? What size battery have you used in the Bar? Can you estimate what range it fires too? Does it have a standard 6.08 inner barrell? Is the gear set stock high speed or high torque? Thanks,

Lemming

Viper Antidote wrote: »

Are you including a battery? What size battery have you used in the Bar? Can you estimate what range it fires too? Does it have a standard 6.08 inner barrell? Is the gear set stock high speed or high torque? Thanks,

There are no batteries included (since none came with it). For brevity, the AEG has a mini-Tamiya connector although the stock can accept 8.4v as well as 8.4v mini size batteries.

Cant' recall the range on it since I haven't skirmished it since ... well .. the first time I skirmished it being a very long time ago. I used .25g BBs as well, so would be less distance than .2g

I have no idea of the inner barrel diameter and cannot seem to find mention of it online (and I'm currently trying to locate my manual). Barrel length is 502mm, and given the AEG is stock, I would expect inner diameter to be around the 6.05-6.08mm size.

Viper Antidote

Thanks Lemming, I'll offer €400 cash, collected. This is a serious offer, albeit a recessionary offer.

Lemming

Thanks for the interest, but not at that price Viper Antidote.

Viper Antidote

That's ok Lemming, Offer will be open if you'd like to reconsider. Very best of luck with the sale, Cheers.

Viper Antidote

Found these specs on line Lemming, I'm sure they'll be helpful for anyone considering purchasing your B.A.R.

VFC BAR M1918A2

Features:
* Real Wood Hand guard / Stock
* Machined Aluminum Receiver / Barrel / Gas Tube / Gas Piston
* Dummy Gas System
* Realistic Field Stripping
* 7mm Bearing Gearbox

Specifications:
Motor - VFC EG1300
Magazine - 190 Rounds
Length - 1200mm
Barrel Length - 502mm
Weight - 5100g
Muzzle Velocity - 300FPS with 0.2g BBs
Package Includes - Gun, Magazine x2, Dummy Round ( Hop Adjustment Tool ), Manual

May be worth leaving the damaged/scratched sections in for repair ........ collectors appreciate quality/mint condition pieces. :D

Lemming

I would imagine that anyone about to spend a rather significant sum of money on an AEG would do their homework first. But thank you for posting the specifications.

As for the scratches; the pictures above seem to have given you the impression I've used it as a baseball bat. Nothing could be further from the truth, and you would have to go inspecting the wood furniture up close to spot the scratches. Personally speaking, I think they add a bit of character to the AEG as they are not overbearing and are both slight and discrete. In my opinion of course; other opinions may vary.

Viper Antidote

Always happy to share information Lemming. Again, as with any seller, I wish you every success in selling your B.A.R.

An Scuad Bás

hey man nice piece I'd be interested in it but the price seems a bit steep. I'm not interested so much in the travel/flight case so with-out that, and keeping in mind the extent of the scraches on the stock how low would one be willing to go?

An Scuad Bás

hey man so whats the story with B.A.R. these days?

Lemming

An Scuad Bás wrote: »

hey man so whats the story with B.A.R. these days?

Sorry for the delay. To be honest, I took the scratches into account when coming up with the asking price, and any further reduction I'd be inclined to give wouldn't put a large dent in the asking price as it stands. The scratches are actually fairly minor, and unfortunately in being honest about it, there seems to have been much more emphasis given to them than they warrant. The pictures just make them look more prominent.

This AEG really hasn't been used much in any way shape or form, and only for the wood furniture scratches you'd not know it had been taken out of its box at all. I am reluctant to sell this so anybody expecting a fire-sale price will be sorely disappointed.

An Scuad Bás

fair enough if i had that kind of cash i'd buy it but unfortunatly i don't for the time being so cheers anyway, chat ya later man

4444Design

Still available?

Thomas

Lemming

4444Design wrote: »

Still available?

Thomas

Hi Thomas,

I'll post the PM you sent me, as there's a rule on this site that all dealings are to be on-thread until sale has been agreed - helps keep everyone above board and avoids confusion on the busy threads.

4444Design wrote:

Hello Lemming!

Is that BAR still for sale?

How about shipping to Germany?

Payment via PAYPAL?

Just let me know!

Thomas

To answer your questions, yes the BAR is still for sale and yes I do take paypal. I should mention that international postage would likely be horrendous as this gun is about 5-6kg and then add in the weight of the flight case on top of that. But hey, you ask and I'll check.

Unfortunately however, German law regarding airsoft means that this gun is illegal since it is above 0.5j in power rating and is also not a semi-auto gun (it has three settings; safe, auto, and more auto).

I could post it (if you were willing to pay the costs involved), but the gun would get seized and destroyed as soon as it landed in Germany.

Ref. Germany Legal status

renas

Lemming wrote: »

Hi Thomas,

I'll post the PM you sent me, as there's a rule on this site that all dealings are to be on-thread until sale has been agreed - helps keep everyone above board and avoids confusion on the busy threads.



To answer your questions, yes the BAR is still for sale and yes I do take paypal. I should mention that international postage would likely be horrendous as this gun is about 5-6kg and then add in the weight of the flight case on top of that. But hey, you ask and I'll check.

Unfortunately however, German law regarding airsoft means that this gun is illegal since it is above 0.5j in power rating and is also not a semi-auto gun (it has three settings; safe, auto, and more auto).

I could post it (if you were willing to pay the costs involved), but the gun would get seized and destroyed as soon as it landed in Germany.

Ref. Germany Legal status

hi, i think posible to send it, then you disassemble it, just take of spring, piston and engine from it :rolleyes:

Lemming

renas wrote: »

hi, i think posible to send it, then you disassemble it, just take of spring, piston and engine from it :rolleyes:

Thank you for your well considered input; especially the bit about sending the gun without the VFC-specific, custom v6 gearbox that you can so readily buy across the counter at every airsoft shop, like forever & ever.

Have a nice day. Oh, I forgot the :rolleyes: since it goes with your own.

4444Design

actually i do not need the BAR for airsoft but to complete my deact-weapons collection - so i do not need the gearbox

that would be a good option ...

the gerabox could be sent separately in a smaller box or so

please check for the shipping rate to Germany and to Belgium anyway!

i'm checking with some friends in belgium wether you can ship the BAR there - in belgium regulations are not as strict so should not be a problem

any more traces of use like the scratches on the woodwork?

Thomas

Lemming

4444Design wrote: »

actually i do not need the BAR for airsoft but to complete my deact-weapons collection - so i do not need the gearbox

that would be a good option ...

the gerabox could be sent separately in a smaller box or so

please check for the shipping rate to Germany and to Belgium anyway!

i'm checking with some friends in belgium wether you can ship the BAR there - in belgium regulations are not as strict so should not be a problem

any more traces of use like the scratches on the woodwork?

Thomas

I've checked postage for roughly 7.5kg (estimated combined weight of BAR & case) with insurance & tracking to cover the costs from the Uk (I'm currently in the UK) to Belgium/Germany and the cheapest option is working in at roughly £90 (GBP; circa €100); that will also get the gun to you in about 3-5 working days.

My big concern about shipping the gearbox separately is that the German police are - I'm sure - not that stupid and have seen this trick before, and would potentially cause a lot of trouble. For the money & risk involved, I really don't want to see you out of pocket.

I'd be a lot less hesitant to ship to Belgium to be perfectly honest, as I've heard plenty of horror experiences from airsofters both in Germany and travelling through it en route to events in other countries, regarding bringing AEGs into Germany (even if just driving across an auto-bahn to another country and having the misfortune to get stopped by the police).

As for other traces of use, none that I am aware of. I'll have another inspection, but the gun has literally been locked in a flight case for over a year and a half now (closer to two years) since being used once briefly at a skirmish.

defenderdude

Just want to know if there is there anything in your wanted list - by way of trades or are you just after a ca$h sale?

Lemming

defenderdude wrote: »

Just want to know if there is there anything in your wanted list - by way of trades or are you just after a ca$h sale?

You don't happen to have either a G&P/Bomber m16VN or an Inokatsu m4 sopmod lying around? Inokatsu Gimpy? :pac:


In all seriousness (unless you happen to just have one of the above for trade) cash would be preferable (probably easiest option given my ... selective ... tastes)

defenderdude

Lemming wrote: »

You don't happen to have either a G&P/Bomber m16VN or an Inokatsu m4 sopmod lying around? Inokatsu Gimpy? :pac:

Sorry, have none of the above. Thanks anyway.

Lemming

defenderdude wrote: »

Sorry, have none of the above. Thanks anyway.

Sorry dude, I'm choosy about what I buy (the BAR being the impulse exception), and I think to be perfectly honest I just want to clear the space taken up by the BAR rather than filled with something else.

Worth asking though, much appreciated

4444Design

Lemming wrote: »

I've checked postage for roughly 7.5kg (estimated combined weight of BAR & case) with insurance & tracking to cover the costs from the Uk (I'm currently in the UK) to Belgium/Germany and the cheapest option is working in at roughly £90 (GBP; circa €100); that will also get the gun to you in about 3-5 working days.

My big concern about shipping the gearbox separately is that the German police are - I'm sure - not that stupid and have seen this trick before, and would potentially cause a lot of trouble. For the money & risk involved, I really don't want to see you out of pocket.

I'd be a lot less hesitant to ship to Belgium to be perfectly honest, as I've heard plenty of horror experiences from airsofters both in Germany and travelling through it en route to events in other countries, regarding bringing AEGs into Germany (even if just driving across an auto-bahn to another country and having the misfortune to get stopped by the police).

As for other traces of use, none that I am aware of. I'll have another inspection, but the gun has literally been locked in a flight case for over a year and a half now (closer to two years) since being used once briefly at a skirmish.

For me the BAR is fine even without the gearbox!

Also i expected that high amount for shipping coz i had several packages from the UK before - btw: importing from the US is even cheaper ...

So let's organize it that way:

i check with my Belgium friends wether it is ok to send the BAR there - if that gets too complicated you just pull out that damn gearbox and send teh BAR without

i definately ain't need that gearbox-thing - would be funny to have but my main interest is to complete my collection - and finally if i want one i can buy another one here in Germany which match the joule reg. here

OK for you?

Thomas

Lemming

4444Design wrote: »

For me the BAR is fine even without the gearbox!

Also i expected that high amount for shipping coz i had several packages from the UK before - btw: importing from the US is even cheaper ...

So let's organize it that way:

i check with my Belgium friends wether it is ok to send the BAR there - if that gets too complicated you just pull out that damn gearbox and send teh BAR without

i definately ain't need that gearbox-thing - would be funny to have but my main interest is to complete my collection - and finally if i want one i can buy another one here in Germany which match the joule reg. here

OK for you?

Thomas

Ok, first preference is shipping to Belgium.

For the second option of removing the gearbox, I'll need to check how the gearbox is set up with regards the trigger, i.e. is it seperate or is it a part of the gearbox (as most gearboxes are). Since it's a modified V6 gearbox, I'm not sure which of the above setups is true. If the trigger is intergrated, removing the gearbox = removing the trigger. In that case, I'll see about either removing the spring from the gearbox so it simply wont fire, or ship the gearbox seperately.

Let me know what your shipping options are Thomas, and we'll take it from there next.

4444Design

Lemming wrote: »

Ok, first preference is shipping to Belgium.

For the second option of removing the gearbox, I'll need to check how the gearbox is set up with regards the trigger, i.e. is it seperate or is it a part of the gearbox (as most gearboxes are). Since it's a modified V6 gearbox, I'm not sure which of the above setups is true. If the trigger is intergrated, removing the gearbox = removing the trigger. In that case, I'll see about either removing the spring from the gearbox so it simply wont fire, or ship the gearbox seperately.

Let me know what your shipping options are Thomas, and we'll take it from there next.

Currently i'm checking with my belgian pal! I'm not sure wether it works ...

Just saw a photo with the whole BAR dismantled - according to that photo separation of gearbox and rest should be possible ...

My suggestion:

if i do not have any reply from Belgium until Wednesday shipping to Germany ...

What do you think?

See part of my WW2 US Army weapons collection ...





Off course deact (barrel drilled, chamber welded, pin cut and welded)

4444Design

Belgium does not work!

Right now checking with a pal in France ...

Any experience with sending airsofts to France????

Let me know!

Thomas

Lemming

4444Design wrote: »

Belgium does not work!

Right now checking with a pal in France ...

Any experience with sending airsofts to France????

Let me know!

Thomas

Never sent to France, but France also has fairly liberal airsoft legal laws, so shouldn't be a problem by the looks of it.

4444Design

Sorted it out!

You can send the BAR to my friend!

Let me know about your PAYPAL-adress (via PN or EMAIL) and i will send money and also forward my pal's adress to you ...

Thomas

Lemming

Sold to 4444Design, pending sorting out the private details.

Moving to PM.

Lemming

Update: alas, 4444design withdrew due to concerns regarding postage to the continent.

In fairness, I got jerked around a lot by carriers but at least now after having stood my ground with a few of them (Hi there Parcel-ForceFarce, you tossers) I have definitive paths of action to take and which carriers I can and cannot use.

So, I would prefer to sell this within the UK or Ireland, although I can indeed post to the continent; the postage price just wont be very pretty ... roughly €100/150 depending on carrier but fully insured and tracked courier delivery service.

Lemming

Time for a random bumpity bump.

Lemming

Provisionally sold (off-boards)

Lemming

Sold.