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IOMEGA 2 TB USB 2.0 External Desktop Hard Drive € 159

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  • Moderators Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Thats one big heavy lump of an external Hard drive! 2.2Kg. Not a bad price, but I certainly wouldn't want to carry around that weight and size anywhere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 mande01


    I've been looking at this.
    I got a lacie 2TB from pixmania before for about the same price.
    But it was crap, I couldn't find a part number for it to check the full spec and ended up with a brick that will never spin down.
    I know i didn't have to buy it but it was cheap!
    Lacie said themselves that it was not deigned for spinning down,
    There ideal method for usage was:
    Turn off PC
    Turn on ext HDD
    Turn on PC
    Perform Back up
    Turn off ext HDD

    omfg!!!

    So to avoid the same or similar again does any one know how to properly identify this and get a full list of spec's/features?

    Thanks,
    Derry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,541 ✭✭✭Heisenberg.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭Onikage


    Why two drives in one box with no redundancy? Give me a drobo pro anyday (pity it costs €1000+ :eek:) http://www.drobo.com/products/drobopro/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 mande01


    0.8 TB of movies
    0.65 TB of data files

    Home network with two wireless APs, 3 laptops, 2 desktops.
    and one FreeNAS box with 2TB of storage.
    It currently have no redundancy solution, other than copies of everything across other ext hdd, i.e. 2 x 500 GB, 1 x 320 gb etc...

    So for redundancy I want to add another 2 TB and have that as a back up for my server.

    If I could get this one to spin down I would use the other one as the monthly back up! Which would be sweet!

    Derry


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Loobz


    2 tb of data on one drive - jesus ye better get two, cos to loose that much data - fook.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 mande01


    It is two drives in one box.
    There is a dual SATA to USB controller on it, it has jumpers for JBoD or RAID 0 or 1 can't remember, doesn't matter as they didn't work.

    So my problem was that I could not access the two drives separately and have (some) redundancy in one box.
    I'm hoping, if i can get enough information on it, i can do that with the iomega one.

    Derry

    P.S. has anyone any idea how to identify this item fully? As in whats the manu part number.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭WillieCocker


    Scien wrote: »
    Why would anyone need a TB of free space, not to mind 2... :confused:

    Are you stuck in the 1960's?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,797 ✭✭✭sweetie


    Are you stuck in the 1960's?

    :confused: cos avis were so much smaller back then!

    and music was all wavs and no mp3s :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭WillieCocker


    sweetie wrote: »
    :confused: cos avis were so much smaller back then!

    and music was all wavs and no mp3s :p

    No, because ping pong takes up so much more space nowadays.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭DannyBuoy


    I'd much prefer 2 of the 1TB Iomega Prestige units from Peats, much safer (I notice they're gone back up to E90).

    OK, an extra cable and box, but you won't mind that if and when the 2TB unit goes ten toes up.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    I will *NEVER* buy an IOmega external hard drive again - I had 2 fail on me within 6 months of each other, 1 (320GB IDE drive) was 18 months old and the other (160GB 2.5 IDE) within 8 months of receipt (it was a present). Massive data loss and by backups (on DVD) went a bit weird which means I wasn't able to recover everything so that made the whole ordeal even worse.

    Saw 1TB externals in Reads on Nassau St yesterday for €90, but it wasn't a brand I recognised/remember.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,541 ✭✭✭Heisenberg.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    Scien wrote: »
    Seriously, unless you own a small to medium sized Company i can't see why anyone would have need for 2TB's of storage.

    No matter how big of a music/film/photo/gaming fan you are.

    Rip your collection of DVDs or Blu-Rays (for the purpose of a media-server or HTPC) and see how quickly you'll get through 2TB.

    However, in regards this bargain alert, i'd just advise anyone thinking of purchasing it to make sure they know what kind of array it is, and what that means in terms of reliability/redundancy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭superfly


    damn all those pr0n movies and their extras ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭WillieCocker


    Scien wrote: »
    Seriously, unless you own a small to medium sized Company i can't see why anyone would have need for 2TB's of storage.

    No matter how big of a music/film/photo/gaming fan you are.

    You obviously don't watch High Definition.
    Just because your 10mb hdd suits your needs doesn't mean it suits everyone else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 mande01


    Yea, it happened.

    One of the HDD inside it died. I was in the process of consolidating all my information and I became complacent. No backup because I was moving back ups! not copying!

    Simple mistake, just got emailed a quote of €800 + VAT to recover.

    Any one know how to fix a broken HDD. I mean broken. Really loud clicking noise. Head bashing off something need to replace swap out platters. Anyone have any idea where I could find tutorials on this sort of thing?

    The drive is a 1 TB Seagate Barracuda drives (ST310003 40AS).

    Thanks,
    Derry


  • Moderators Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    AFAIK, when its fooked like that, its fooked. Who quoted you 800? Is it not covered in the warranty?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,262 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Data recovery wouldnt be covered under warranty.


    HD ice pop anyone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    Scien wrote: »
    Seriously, unless you own a small to medium sized Company i can't see why anyone would have need for 2TB's of storage.

    No matter how big of a music/film/photo/gaming fan you are.

    So you are in the 1960's :eek: quick, everybody, send Scien a PM... you'll be sending a message into the past. :pac: you should have a PM from me now "buy Microsoft stock"

    Seriously though. I have about 8TB of storage, and even at that I have no space for redundancy.

    A lot of people rip everything they own for ease of use. I can click on a file instead of finding a disc and manually inserting it in the drive.

    I've ripped all my old VHS to mkv (~4GB each), all my music to flac (~600MB per album), all my games and dvds to iso (between ~4GB to ~12GB). With my current camera I will usually come back from a weeks holiday with at least 40GB's+ of pictures and HD video, and that's only recording at 720p, I plan to upgrade that to 1080p in the next few months.

    It's easily possible to fill 2TB with media.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,262 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    L31mr0d wrote: »
    So you are in the 1960's :eek: quick, everybody, send Scien a PM... you'll be sending a message into the past. :pac: you should have a PM from me now "buy Microsoft stock"

    Seriously though. I have about 8TB of storage, and even at that I have no space for redundancy.

    A lot of people rip everything they own for ease of use. I can click on a file instead of finding a disc and manually inserting it in the drive.

    I've ripped all my old VHS to mkv (~4GB each), all my music to flac (~600MB per album), all my games and dvds to iso (between ~4GB to ~12GB). With my current camera I will usually come back from a weeks holiday with at least 40GB's+ of pictures and HD video, and that's only recording at 720p, I plan to upgrade that to 1080p in the next few months.

    It's easily possible to fill 2TB with media.


    Well his message was from 6-7 months ago, was different times back then!

    Would you be bothered encoded to flac for a saving of about ~10% disc space? (I always thought it was roughly 50% compresion and i still wasnt bothered!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 mande01


    easyrecovery.ie gave the quote.

    I have sent people to them before when every I haven't been able to recover data. ie can't find it in bios!

    There up north, in Belfast.

    That €800 was made up of, RAID recovery starting at €650 plus a few hundred for hardware replacement and opening up etc.

    It properly was under warranty but I broke the seal, ages ago, so no good.
    I was trying to change it from RAID 0 to RAID 1.

    Anyone out there who could do me an offer on recovery? For some reason they wouldn't accept barter!

    I'll do work to help pay for this. But honestly I'd love to lean about the process also. It's a bit of a dark art on the net very little detail out in the wild.

    Could someone point me to some info for a DIY recovery? I have access to a clean room/clean environment.

    Thanks,
    Derry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 727 ✭✭✭C.O.Y.B.I.B


    mande01 wrote: »
    Yea, it happened.

    One of the HDD inside it died. I was in the process of consolidating all my information and I became complacent. No backup because I was moving back ups! not copying!

    Simple mistake, just got emailed a quote of €800 + VAT to recover.

    Any one know how to fix a broken HDD. I mean broken. Really loud clicking noise. Head bashing off something need to replace swap out platters. Anyone have any idea where I could find tutorials on this sort of thing?

    The drive is a 1 TB Seagate Barracuda drives (ST310003 40AS).

    Thanks,
    Derry

    We have managed to recover disk before by freezing them . Pop them in a static bag into the freezer for 24hrs and then plug them back in . About 1 in 10 will stay up long enough to get data off them. Seems it can pop the heads back into place temporarily.

    However I might add that I would only recommend this as a last straw before binning it.

    I have also used a company called Critical Data Recovery in Blanchardstown who do a no fix no fee and are generally good .
    Really boils down to how much the data is worth to you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭Elessar


    I'm waiting for the WD passport 2.5' 1TB external HDD (usb powered!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    Well his message was from 6-7 months ago, was different times back then!

    Would you be bothered encoded to flac for a saving of about ~10% disc space? (I always thought it was roughly 50% compresion and i still wasnt bothered!)

    Tagging for one.

    I don't bother myself, with my ears and gear, and the environment where I listen, I can't any difference above 256 kbit MP3. Also I get more on my portables that way too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 Rysinh


    I had a similar problem with the same model from seagate st3100034as (almost know it off by heart now), if you look it up on you'll find that its an entire faulty production line

    I used kroll ontrack data recovery they weren't too bad, got a new HD with all my stuff (99%) of it recovered - the other files were corrupted even before failure, cost €740 all in all though the original quote was much less ~ €450 which I thought was quite steep at the time, all in the space of two weeks, customer service was pretty good too.

    Don't bother returning the failed drive to seagate either, something I did, I got a refurb of the same model back which also failed but I was much wiser this time, had a back up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    Rysinh wrote: »
    ...the other files were corrupted even before failure....

    This is why you need a few of backups going back a bit and why a single copy isn't always enough. One every week, another every 3~6 months. Depends what you are doing though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,425 ✭✭✭Fidelis


    Recuva is a freeware data recovery program. I've used it in the past with some success.
    Elessar wrote: »
    I'm waiting for the WD passport 2.5' 1TB external HDD (usb powered!)
    I was looking into one of these recently and noticed a lot of negative reviews on Amazon. They're customer reviews, so take them with a bit of salt, but worth a quick read all the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    I've a few WD 2.5" drives for a few years and not had any problems with them. They are all smaller drives though with the mini USB connector

    But the 1TB is just released though and it seems they changed the design slightly. They've hard coded a utility partition which people can't get rid of. They've also switched from the USB mini to the micro connector. (Same as mobile phone) which they are having problems with .

    Kinda annoying changes tbh.


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