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Difficult Airports for landing

  • 20-07-2009 11:12am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭


    Read a great book many years ago about the worlds most dangerous airports for landing. Anyone remember it or know which airports are particularly bad ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Faro, Portugal (youtube it)
    Kai Tak, Hong Kong (youtube it)
    Martinique (very short)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,675 ✭✭✭ronnie3585


    Bantry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭CaptainSkidmark


    I imagine Kai Tak, St Maarten's were in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Flyer1


    Bantry isn't dangerous ! It's got the best approaches of any airport in the country. It's short but nothing you couldn't manage in most light aircraft with good technique. Shortest strip i've done to date is 265m, with good technique i was able to operate in 5/8 of it comfortably.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    TGU airport in Honduras is a toughy for medium size airliners, the biggest that can land there is a 757 as far I know.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM7GrMKsVcQ


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Is skiathos still hairy? From what I recall, there is sea either end of a very short runway. You used to have to land at Thesaloniki because most aoreplanes couldn't get off the ground with enough fuel to make it home.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭WIZE




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 139 ✭✭yaeger


    The fact that the runway is short wouldnt really make into dangerous airports list i would have thought.... Your aircraft and its weight at the time can either make it or not so just make sure you plant it.
    Otherwise airports with difficult approaches would come into it I would think, Some of the greek islands and the likes of Salzburg, Innsbruck,Gibraltar,nice are difficult. Faro is not difficult, can get windy but not that often. Some times tricky approaches are made that much harder because of the short runway which just means you got work harder to be on profile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭Delta Kilo


    I think Paro in Bhutan has to be the most dangerous approach in the world.

    Check out the house at 0:53!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    Confab wrote: »
    Faro, Portugal (youtube it)
    Kai Tak, Hong Kong (youtube it)
    Martinique (very short)


    Faro is far from difficult! Its runway is 300m longer than Corks....

    Innsbruck is interesting, but generally easy. The circling visual approach is a challenge

    Sion (switzerland) is difficult enough

    Funchal/Madiera (LPMA) is a notable one- Island southwest of Portugal...special aircrew certification required


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Faro is far from difficult! Its runway is 300m longer than Corks....

    Faro is notorious for high winds. Kai Tak's runway wasn't short either. Short doesn't nessecarily mean difficult. Google them both and you're see what I mean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    Confab wrote: »
    Faro is notorious for being dangerously windy. Kai Tak's runway wasn't short either. Short doesn't nessecarily mean difficult.

    It generally does, but the jetstream dicates it is straight down the runway most the time - right now its straight down 10.

    by the same token, Cork suffers from Chronic fog and Shannon strong crosswinds in winter. Does that make them notably difficult either? Of course not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    It generally does, but the jetstream dicates it is straight down the runway most the time - right now its straight down 10.

    by the same token, Cork suffers from Chronic fog and Shannon strong crosswinds in winter. Does that make them notably difficult either? Of course not.

    Just have look at aircraft landing at the above airports on youtube. It's pointless talking about the theory of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,924 ✭✭✭Nforce




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 N2


    It generally does, but the jetstream dicates it is straight down the runway most the time - right now its straight down 10.

    by the same token, Cork suffers from Chronic fog and Shannon strong crosswinds in winter. Does that make them notably difficult either? Of course not.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭John_Mc


    Confab wrote: »
    Just have look at aircraft landing at the above airports on youtube. It's pointless talking about the theory of it.

    You've clearly no idea what you're talking about.

    Faro is a straight in approach with plenty of runway and usually has very good weather conditions. There's absolutely nothing difficult about it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭View Profile


    Did my night rating in Faro, as did most of my class mates. Its a very safe and ordinary airport to land/take off from. Definitely not dangerous!

    Maybe Confab is thinking of Funchal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭View Profile




    This is a bit tricky. :D

    Saba Island!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭LeotheLion


    Day's Hotel Ballymun,
    a Plane operated by a portugues pilot was diverted away from landing on top of this newly built hotel by air traffic control a couple of years ago as it was deemed too dangerous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Did my night rating in Faro, as did most of my class mates. Its a very safe and ordinary airport to land/take off from. Definitely not dangerous!

    Maybe Confab is thinking of Funchal?

    Yup that's what I meant :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    pokhara in nepal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,313 ✭✭✭fabbydabby


    You have to do a bit of mountain dodging coming into Innsbruck, of so i am told.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭niborm


    I would think Quito in Ecuador is difficult.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭JSK 252


    LaGuardia and heraklion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭teresasaunt




    Tegucigalpa, Honduras Toncontin airport landing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Not exactly airports but two of the most dodgy places that I have ever been dropped off or lifted from were the Skellig Rock and Kish Lighthouse helipads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭dogmatix


    Speaking as a passenger, I would say Maderia is one of the most "interesting" airports I have flown in and out of. The whole thing appears to be mounted on concrete stilts on a steep hillside with a sharp drop into the sea on the other side.

    Some of the small airports on the Azores can be "fun" also...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭Skyknight


    How about Gustaff III(or Saint Barthélemy Airport (TFFJ)).
    Not really sure if this counts, since the largest aircraft you are going to get in there is an Twin Otter, but the approach on 10, always looks a bit tight to me, especially the clearing the road just short of the threshold. Might be just me of course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    What is Bournemouth like for a pilot? I drove past the airport once and had to wait at traffic lights whilst a plane took off, the thing looked like it had reversed into a hedge at the end of the runway and i am sure its tail was hanging over the road (ok, that may be a bit of an exageration:D)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,189 ✭✭✭drdeadlift


    Margarita,its an island just off the coast of venezuela.The airport is surrounded buy mountains along with this there is no ils just an on field vor and an ndb.Got a cockpit seat there on an air atlanta 742 the pilots were extrs vigilant on approach,..

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Flyer1


    What is Bournemouth like for a pilot? I drove past the airport once and had to wait at traffic lights whilst a plane took off, the thing looked like it had reversed into a hedge at the end of the runway and i am sure its tail was hanging over the road (ok, that may be a bit of an exageration:D)

    Bournemouth - not a problem


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37 A320-200


    Just to go back to the LOWI post. Two charts just to show the proximity to high ground, and the challenging nature of the required instument procedures.

    First it the LOC DME WEST. Which is followed by a circle-to-land for 26 or 08.

    20090726-9v8-465kb.jpg


    Next is the chart for the follow up visual procedure. And as you can see, after the AB (Absam) NDB, you have to keep the turn radius inside .9NM . Fun stuff.

    20090726-fy2-287kb.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 294 ✭✭Omcd


    I remember flying into Faro when I was kid. The plane did a low level circle over the sea to line up with the runway and at one point the plane appeared to come a complete stop over the sea, it was like we were just hovering there. Two seconds later I was looking almost vertically down wing into the sea, the engines were roaring and the pilot appeared to be trying to stand the plane on its tail. I reckon the pilot almost stalled it and we came very close to ending up in the sea :eek:


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