Fantasy fight-Collins V Calzaghe?

cowzerp

Could have happened but did not, both where at different stages of there carreers, but both at peak, who win and why?

cowzerp

In my opinion Collins at his best would have been a nightmare for Calzaghe, His chin was granite and he could work for the full 12 rounds, calzaghe liked to push people back with his slaps but with collins throwing straight punches and been good on the back foot i'd see him landing often in this fight, might end in late stoppage but i'll pick a decision win for stevo!

Kess73

With both at their peaks, I would lean towards Collins as well. I think his durability and stamina would allow him to soak up any pressure from Calzaghe, and the combination of Collins being a good spoiler when needed and his ability to fight on the back foot would throw Calzaghe off of his game.

The Davestator

I spoke with Collins about this a few years back and he was supremely confident of beating him. So confident, that he totally convinced me.

On another note, I dont think JC will get the respect his record deserves for a few more years

ginoginelli

Steve would put up a good fight and put the pressure on joe, but i still think joe would come out on top, due to superior speed, footwork and technical boxing.

Does anyone know the real reason collins/jones never happened? Im not talking about when collins had the brain scan thing.. I remember an interview with jim rock some time ago and he kind of hinted that collins never really wanted the fight..

nacho libre

Collins probably never wanted the fight because deep down he knew Calzaghe would have won comfortably on points. Collins would have been hitting thin air for most of the night and being picked off by an opponent with superior handspeed and footwork.

walshb

Hey, Collins was tough and strong and durable, but one hell of a sloppy
fighter and Joe would win a decision here. He is by far a better boxer and more polished and balanced, as strong, as fit and as busy; and Joe is just a notch above Collins. I would say it would make for the sloppiest fight ever

The Davestator

ginoginelli wrote: »

Steve would put up a good fight and put the pressure on joe, but i still think joe would come out on top, due to superior speed, footwork and technical boxing.

Does anyone know the real reason collins/jones never happened? Im not talking about when collins had the brain scan thing.. I remember an interview with jim rock some time ago and he kind of hinted that collins never really wanted the fight..

Collins was trying to get one final big payday against roy jones jnr and when that wasnt goin to happen, he said he wouldnt 'get up' for the JC fight.

phily2002

yeah Collins could have fought Calzaghe but ducked him, I think Collins would put up a decent showing but Calzaghe was out of his league, plus back then Calzaghe's hands were better and he could really dig(as opposed to more slapping later on in his carear)
Collins was good but not great, his best wins Eubank and Benn were against fighters who had badly hurt other fighters(watson,g-man) and there hearts wern't in it, plus Eubank could have had Collins out of there in the first fight but clearly no longer had the killer instinct. Calzaghe is an atg, only RJJ I'd rate higher than him at supermiddle, but Collins even though he was my favorite fighter at the time was quite limited, but made up for it with a huge heart...

ocianain

cowzerp wrote: »

Could have happened but did not, both where at different stages of there carreers, but both at peak, who win and why?

For Gods sake man, Calzaghe! Phil was a great drummer/songwriter (maybe a lttle too pop at times, true), he was no fighter though!:)

horizon26

Calzaghe wins quite easily, better boxer much quicker harder puncher.Better footwork more stamina Collins was a good fighter but wins over Benn and Eubank mean nothing.Eubank was way overrated as was Benn.At least Benn fought some tasty fighters.Calzaghe was a better fighter than Collins Eubank and Benn.Steve Collins was made for Calzaghe, Collins is just too slow and Calzaghe is much much the better boxer.:D:D

megadodge

I am absolutely certain that this would be a distance affair, as both had very good chins and stamina. Both had high workrates, but Calzaghe was the better boxer and much faster and I think that's what makes the difference. Collins would have been outboxed and outsped, but would still have made it a tough, bruising fight which Calzaghe would win by clear UD.

cowzerp

walshb wrote: »

Hey, Collins was tough and strong and durable, but one hell of a sloppy

I would say it would make for the sloppiest fight ever

Collins was way less sloppy than Calzaghe, i would say Collins was basic but not sloppy, he threw most of his punches in 2's and 3's and straight basic punches-the way there meant to be, Calzaghe on the other hand Slapped and was sloppy, (and people suggesting Calzaghe lost power due to his hands are talking nonsense) he simply stepped up from bottom class to a bit above that and the lads could take his pitter patter shots unlike the cans who where easily stopped in the early days, same as all major carreer's but stopping these bums means nothing.

slapping is more damaging to the hands also so i dont know why you'd start slapping if you had dodgy hands!! he got dodgy hands due to slapping.

gary nevillevil

Well what a fight it would have been as for hardness and heart Collins was one tough man and Collins would have had the power to hurt Calzaghe if he got in close but for me Calzaghe is to smart and would have had too much speed and skills and he would have outpointed Collins over 12 hard rounds of boxing.

eagle eye

The Davestator wrote: »

I spoke with Collins about this a few years back and he was supremely confident of beating him. So confident, that he totally convinced me.

On another note, I dont think JC will get the respect his record deserves for a few more years

Lol tell me a fighter who would say they would be beaten. You have to believe in yourself like that or you will never reach the top of the game.

Victor McDade

Calzaghe on points, his hands were too fast for most fighters. Collins knew it too

walshb

cowzerp wrote: »

Collins was way less sloppy than Calzaghe, i would say Collins was basic but not sloppy, he threw most of his punches in 2's and 3's and straight basic punches-the way there meant to be, Calzaghe on the other hand Slapped and was sloppy, (and people suggesting Calzaghe lost power due to his hands are talking nonsense) he simply stepped up from bottom class to a bit above that and the lads could take his pitter patter shots unlike the cans who where easily stopped in the early days, same as all major carreer's but stopping these bums means nothing.

slapping is more damaging to the hands also so i dont know why you'd start slapping if you had dodgy hands!! he got dodgy hands due to slapping.

Paul, both were sloppy, but Cal was more a balanced and polished fighter. He did more things beter than Steve, was as strong, as big and as fit and simply had more versatility. I see a sloppy and terrible fight, but Cal always staying a step ahead. This bout will be won on accuracy and volume, not power; and the accurate an more connecting shots will be hitting Steve I feel