Have i been scammed????

kdoher

Already posted this in ems but got no reply and really need help
Hi dont know if anyone can help me but ordered an item from chaina over 3 weeks ago.. Neary 2 weeks in i was given a tracing no and after a week of the parcel not arriving in ireland i got onto the shop i ordered off ( I ordered off an english website which i had a phone no. for the man) He the sent me another tracing no. which had absolutley no info and said that the parcel had arrived in irleand and customs sent it back... I have never heard of this and when i have bought items out of america when the items arrived in portlaois it came up straight away before it went anywhere near customs... The have now given me a third tracing no. and it says that it has been dispactched from sorting centre in china that was on the 9th July and nothing since.. Does anyone know is this normal or has it happened to them? What could i do?? Please any opinon or advice would be brilliant

the_syco

What sort of item, and how much was it? Are we talking about an AK47, a teddy bear, or computer parts...?

ED E

If it was perhaps an airsoft device and shipped via EMS then it was halted by UK customs, all their stuff goes via a UK hub. Just a small possibility.

Nody

What is the important part here; the fact customs would send it directly back sounds, odd...

kdoher

It was just soe jewellery bout 130euro so i dont think it would be sent back... It will be 4 weeks since i ordered on wed and i was told it would only take about 10 days to deliver. It was shipped via ems

foggy_lad

if it was considered to be counterfeit or contravening copyrights then customs would seize it or return it to china.

kdoher

But it isnt.. I have brought over a designer 'style' handbag from the us before and had no probelem and have had absolutley no problem with customs..

jor el

If it was illegal in any way, customs would seize it, not return it to the forger.

What's the website? There are plenty of scam sites out there, a lot based in China, and mostly they sell cheap electronics, but I guess jewelery is a possibility too. If it was too cheap, then it was definitely a scam. The fact that they've sent you so many tracking numbers, quickly, and all going nowhere, leads me to believe you're being conned. No company will re-send a lost item before they check it out and confirm that it's gone.

As for customs seizing items, they can stop, inspect, value and charge you duty and VAT on any item valued over 22 euro, once it originates outside the EU. The duty limit is actually 150 euro, but VAT applies after 22 euro.

kdoher

It is an english website found it on ebay... I have already paid 15% vat because he said that he is VAT registered. Told me this is the first thime this has happened and got angry when i staarted to sound suspicous having ago saying do i not believe him etc. I paid with paypal but i only have 45 days from when i ordered when i told him on friday i was considering opening a dispute with paypal he told me he was ok because i have a tracking no. and the goods are 'in transit'

waraf

I've heard of these scams before where they drag the process on past the 45 days so that you can't make a claim via paypal. If your stuff doesn't arrive by the 44th day make sure you make a paypal claim. 44 days is more than enough time for anything to arrive from anywhere in the world. What does the seller's feedback look like on ebay?

jor el

waraf wrote: »

I've heard of these scams before where they drag the process on past the 45 days so that you can't make a claim via paypal.

Yeah, common enough as they know there's nothing you can do after 45 days. Start a dispute now, since it's been 3 weeks, then give it a few days before you escalate to a claim.

kdoher

His ebay feedback 99.9%.. bought off him a few months ago but that was stuff out of his english store and were ok. What do i say to paypal i have never opened a dispute before.. Or should i just give him another week for giving him the benefit of the doubt? The worst part about it is its my partners money :(:(

dudara

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dlofnep

kdoher wrote: »

His ebay feedback 99.9%.. bought off him a few months ago but that was stuff out of his english store and were ok. What do i say to paypal i have never opened a dispute before.. Or should i just give him another week for giving him the benefit of the doubt? The worst part about it is its my partners money :(:(

How many sales has he though for that 99.9%? I've seen Chinese scammers working together, leaving positive feedback for each other. If it's only 20 or 30 sales, then it could be suspicious but if it's a few hundred then - he might be legit.

Politely ask for your money back, and if he refuses - open a dispute.

kdoher

Just checked he has over 3000 feedback.. Rang him this morning and said that i needed to open a dispute with paypal told me that i really couldnt because i have an active tracker no!! I do not know what to do told me other people who have ordered after me have recieved mine and that it could be because im living in ireland..

dlofnep

Ask him to politely refund you, and that if the package ever arrives, you'll return it to him - But that you have no faith in it ever getting to you, so that if he fails to refund you - you will be forced to open a dispute. Give it 24 hours. No response, then open it.

jor el

kdoher wrote: »

told me that i really couldnt because i have an active tracker no!!

Bullsh*t of the highest order. He doesn't want you to open a dispute, but he doesn't get to decide on it. The UK/HK tracking numbers work fine here in Ireland too, so that's more bull.

If the current tracking number doesn't show any detail of where it's gone to, then you don't have an active tracking number. From recent orders from China, I can tell you that it will tell you when it arrives in Ireland, and even when delivery is confirmed.

Start a dispute now, and give him a day or two to respond, then up to a claim if you have to.

kdoher

jor el wrote: »

From recent orders from China, I can tell you that it will tell you when it arrives in Ireland, and even when delivery is confirmed.

Do you mind me asking how long it usually takes for your packages to arrive?

kdoher

Just checked the ems website my package arrived in Portlaois this evening
That means it took 12 days for it to come from china. Have one more question because i bought the item from a uk dealer and paid VAT ahould i have to pay VAT if customs hit the item or can i dispute it??
Also thanks for all of your help today

dlofnep

happy days

kdoher

Yeah he also offerred to give me a 25% refund aswell

daveyid89

the_syco wrote: »

What sort of item, and how much was it? Are we talking about an AK47, a teddy bear, or computer parts...?

what the hell kinda things do you be importing?lol

daveyid89

kdoher wrote: »

Already posted this in ems but got no reply and really need help
Hi dont know if anyone can help me but ordered an item from chaina over 3 weeks ago.. Neary 2 weeks in i was given a tracing no and after a week of the parcel not arriving in ireland i got onto the shop i ordered off ( I ordered off an english website which i had a phone no. for the man) He the sent me another tracing no. which had absolutley no info and said that the parcel had arrived in irleand and customs sent it back... I have never heard of this and when i have bought items out of america when the items arrived in portlaois it came up straight away before it went anywhere near customs... The have now given me a third tracing no. and it says that it has been dispactched from sorting centre in china that was on the 9th July and nothing since.. Does anyone know is this normal or has it happened to them? What could i do?? Please any opinon or advice would be brilliant

exact same thing happened my gf, she ordered like 800euro of stuff from some website in china, given trackin no when no delivery, tracking no was empty,... happened a few more times, said was in customs, customs told us to f* off, been going on now since xmas.....

kdoher

daveyid89 did she recieve her stuff yet?? Is it in irish customs? Last night mine was on route to me but today it was sitting in the sligo depot ( even though because i live in Donegal it should be in lifford) and surprise surprise it still there tonight looks like could have to drive to sligo for it!! :mad:

daveyid89

kdoher wrote: »

daveyid89 did she recieve her stuff yet?? Is it in irish customs? Last night mine was on route to me but today it was sitting in the sligo depot ( even though because i live in Donegal it should be in lifford) and surprise surprise it still there tonight looks like could have to drive to sligo for it!! :mad:

nah, havent heard anythingin a while now... she has to fill out some form or something declaring we want customs to look into it... but hasnt got round to it yet

mcw92

daveyid89 wrote: »

nah, havent heard anythingin a while now... she has to fill out some form or something declaring we want customs to look into it... but hasnt got round to it yet

im in a similar situation:eek:

jor el

daveyid89 wrote: »

exact same thing happened my gf, she ordered like 800euro of stuff from some website in china, given trackin no when no delivery, tracking no was empty,... happened a few more times, said was in customs, customs told us to f* off, been going on now since xmas.....

There's no point in getting customs to investigate it, the package doesn't exist. She was scammed, and will never see any product or her money again.

Rev. Kitchen

I have gotten in bits and pieces from china before normally when i track it it says posted in china then it can take anything from 2-10 days to appear in Portloaise. Had 1 package taken by customs in china that took about 3 weeks to get here.

Daveyid89 : If you have no tracking number then contact the website you bought from because customs cant do anything for you they wont check through the thousands of parcels trying to find your one. What was the website ?

But buying 800 euro worth of stuff of a dodgy site is asking for trouble

daveyid89

mcw92 wrote: »

im in a similar situation:eek:

i bet ya are!

daveyid89

ya i know was awful dodge, but she used the site before to buy like 200euro worth of stuff and no problems there, but that could of been an elaborate trust building thing on behalf of the webmaster......

not sure on the story with customs tbh. i think they wanted her to fill in a form stating wht she wanted them to llook for, they never said they did or didnt have, ive stopped asking cuz i wasnt exactly keen on the idea in the 1st place... what with being the cheapest son of a bit*h i know