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Can a minibus be used on a B license if seats are removed to make 7seater?

  • 18-07-2009 5:36pm
    #1
    gline
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    Im looking to buy a minibus and remove some seats so it is only a 7 seater.

    Reason is i am only on a b license, but I would like to carry a good few people and a lot of stuff.

    legally can you modify a minibus like a 15seater transit minibus to only have 7 seats and tax and insure it on a B license?


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  • #2
    Random
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    Just looking at my B license .. needs to be less than 3500KG too! Not really sure what that is in terms of a minibus ..


  • #3
    gline
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    Random wrote: »
    Just looking at my B license .. needs to be less than 3500KG too! Not really sure what that is in terms of a minibus ..


    hmm thats interesting, didnt see that.

    Anyone know if this is with passengers+luggage or not?


  • #4
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    gline wrote: »
    Im looking to buy a minibus and remove some seats so it is only a 7 seater.

    Reason is i am only on a b license, but I would like to carry a good few people and a lot of stuff.

    legally can you modify a minibus like a 15seater transit minibus to only have 7 seats and tax and insure it on a B license?

    If its the Merc Sprinter twin rear wheel 400 series forget it, a B license won't cover it unless its a camper as it would exceed the 3.5T weight permissible


  • #5
    bop1977
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    a 15 seater would be over your 3500kg limit regardless of the number of seats. your best bet would be to look at something like a ford transit torneo(like this one http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200918192654340or a converted VW carravelle which both have 9 seats (8 plus driver) which you can drive on a B licence. anything with more than 9 seats requires a D bus licence.


  • #6
    bop1977
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    gline wrote: »
    hmm thats interesting, didnt see that.

    Anyone know if this is with passengers+luggage or not?

    as long as the weight of people+gear+van doesn't exceed the 3500kg limit you will be alright.


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  • #7
    gline
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,630 ✭✭✭gline


    I wasnt looking at anything expensive.

    would this with only 7 seats in the back not be under 3500kg? its only a 2.4 diesel engine


  • #8
    craichoe
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    bop1977 wrote: »
    as long as the weight of people+gear+van doesn't exceed the 3500kg limit you will be alright.

    Its unladen weight, not laden


  • #9
    gline
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,630 ✭✭✭gline


    craichoe wrote: »
    Its unladen weight, not laden


    Ah ok well thats not too bad at all then.

    If you modify say a 14 seater to 7 seater would the insurence company recognise this and for tax? or do u have to get it certified or something?


  • #10
    unkel
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    craichoe wrote: »
    Its unladen weight, not laden

    I'm pretty sure it is maximum laden weight of the vehicle

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  • #11
    dutchcat
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    unkel wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure it is maximum laden weight of the vehicle
    +1


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  • #12
    Hooch
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    unkel wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure it is maximum laden weight of the vehicle
    dutchcat wrote: »
    +1

    +2

    If it was unladen........then there would be no weight restrictions for EC (artics)


  • #13
    gline
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,630 ✭✭✭gline


    But how is a person in all honesty going to work that out?? weigh the empty vehicle, then weigh the people and luggage each time to make sure you are not over 3500kg's? Does the tax office check this or is there a certain unladen weight restiction aswell?


  • #14
    guil
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    gline wrote: »
    But how is a person in all honesty going to work that out?? weigh the empty vehicle, then weigh the people and luggage each time to make sure you are not over 3500kg's? Does the tax office check this or is there a certain unladen weight restiction aswell?
    afaik the tax book should have the gvw on it and it will be on a plate under the bonnet or inside the drivers door frame


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