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Another girl - family name

  • 17-07-2009 6:25pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭


    So this afternoon my wife gave birth to our 3rd daughter - hannah

    I was delighted (obviously), and when my wife and I were talking afterwards it dawned on me that this will be our last child and so my family name stops.

    I have 2 brothers - one at home and one in oz - neither look like getting married and so the name also stops with them - probably.

    My dad had 6 brothers and from that they in turn had 9 boys.
    Two of them are dead, and from that 9 we have produced 1 boy who has moved a long way from my dads home village.

    So it looks like that in the space of a generation my family name will be no more in my village!!

    Does any one else think about keeping the family name alive or is a case of meh?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,823 ✭✭✭Horsefumbler


    wats the name? is it worth keeping or is it just like murphy or summit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Its the genes that count


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭TPD


    Case of 'meh' in my opinion. What's in a name?

    Also you've had a kid a few hours ago, what are you doing on boards?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,390 ✭✭✭The Big Red Button


    Maybe one of your daughters will keep her maiden name and give it to her kids?

    By the way - congratulations - and I love the name Hannah :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭chughes


    Its the genes that count

    +1

    I'm not in favour of the double barrelled surname route but that discussion has been debated before on boards.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    newmills wrote: »
    So this afternoon my wife gave birth to our 3rd daughter - hannah

    Congrats!

    And never say never on having another child...stranger things have happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    It is odd what we attach values to. My father has 2 brothers who never had kids and I'm my father's only son. So "the name" stops with me. At one point it was the only side I could see for having a kid even though I know I don't want one. I got the idea out of my head after a while but it's still odd that we put value on a name.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    No offence but I don't get the antiquated notion of passing on your name. Are you a royal?

    Congrats btw. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭newmills


    Case of 'meh' in my opinion. What's in a name?

    Also you've had a kid a few hours ago, what are you doing on boards?

    Well i can't hang around the hospital half the night when i've 2 other kids to get bathed, fed and put to bed!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭newmills


    stovelid wrote: »
    No offence but I don't get the antiquated notion of passing on your name. Are you a royal?

    Congrats btw. :)
    Cheers,

    i know i'll not be the last person with that name but maybe i find it a bit sad that a family name is gone forever from our locality - or maybe no-one gives a shiny shíte anymore!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Pressure's on Pighead to keep his family name alive. He's the only male in the family and so the burden of reproducing a male lies squarely upon his shoulders. It would be an awful shame if the name died because of Pighead. Our family has done an awful lot of good things over the years.

    Hopefully within ten years there will be a Pighead Christ Jr to continue our dynasty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    I don't see how your brothers won't get married just because they don't "look like getting married" - what age are they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭shenanigans1982


    My OH asked me about this after we found out she was pregnant, personally I don't see the big deal about the name being carried on although that could be because I have spent years trying to distance myself from stuff attached to my family name.

    Congrats though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭TequilaMockingBird


    My daughter is the only one out of a large enough family to carry on my family name, I was quite pleased that the name would carry on. But, apparently it doesn't count because she should really have her father's surname, not mine, according to my father, who doesn't say it, but I know he thinks it. :rolleyes: I might change her name to piss him off a bit more. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    Pighead wrote: »
    Pressure's on Pighead to keep his family name alive. He's the only male in the family and so the burden of reproducing a male lies squarely upon his shoulders. It would be an awful shame if the name died because of Pighead. Our family has done an awful lot of good things over the years.

    Hopefully within ten years there will be a Pighead Christ Jr to continue our dynasty.

    Is that really a valid reason to have a child (and possibly hope for a boy) ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭shenanigans1982


    Although if it bothers you a lot you might get a son out of this.

    http://childtrader.com/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Dudess wrote: »
    I don't see how your brothers won't get married just because they don't "look like getting married" - what age are they?
    Thought that sentence was a bit strange alright. Have an image of the two lads locked in a dungeon somewhere looking like a pair of Quasimodo's.

    Surely they must have some hope. There's somebody out there for everybody don't ya know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭TequilaMockingBird


    What has someones potential of getting married got to do with having kids?

    'Tis easy!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 324 ✭✭radioactiveman


    Two words:

    sperm bank :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Is that really a valid reason to have a child (and possibly hope for a boy) ?
    Pighead thinks so. You seem to disagree.

    Plough her and she will crop. There must be a huge sense of satisfaction seeing the crop appear having put in the hard yards months previously. Especially if the crop is a male crop and can continue your family name.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Pighead wrote: »
    Pighead thinks so. You seem to disagree.

    Plough her and she will crop. There must be a huge sense of satisfaction seeing the crop appear having put in the hard yards months previously. Especially if the crop is a male crop and can continue your family name.

    I don't agree tbh,

    I mean what if, by some slight change in history, it was the man that takes the woman's name in marriage?

    Would your name matter as much then?

    Its a manufactured and false sentiment, imo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Why does he assume that his brothers will never marry but his daughters will? Sexist tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    I don't agree tbh,

    I mean what if, by some slight change in history, it was the man that takes the woman's name in marriage?

    Would your name matter as much then?

    Its a manufactured and false sentiment, imo
    It all depends on what your surname is to be honest. If Pighead's surname was "Magnificent" he would make love tooth and nail to ensure that the surname would not die with him. If on the other hand his surname was "Stinkyhole" he probably wouldn't care too much if he brought the name with him to his grave. It's all about perspective these choices we make.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭newmills


    Dudess wrote: »
    I don't see how your brothers won't get married just because they don't "look like getting married" - what age are they?

    The youngest one is 30 and living in brisbane so even if he marries the family name is gone from our shores as he is there for life.
    The second one is 33 - a full time dope smoker - his words - this lad has no interest in women - only getting his wages every week to píss up against a wall and enough dope to keep him to the next payday!!

    Do the maths^


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭newmills


    Why does he assume that his brothers will never marry but his daughters will? Sexist tbh.

    I assume my brothers won't marry as stated above^
    I didn't assume my daughters will marry cause even if they do the family name is gone - double barreled names don't count for much tbh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    newmills wrote: »
    The youngest one is 30 and living in brisbane so even if he marries the family name is gone from our shores as he is there for life.
    The second one is 33 - a full time dope smoker - his words - this lad has no interest in women - only getting his wages every week to píss up against a wall and enough dope to keep him to the next payday!!

    Do the maths^
    I acknowledge his chances are lessened, but still no guarantee he won't marry. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭newmills


    Dudess wrote: »
    I acknowledge his chances are lessened, but still no guarantee he won't marry. :)

    You haven't seen the head on him - the tide wouldn't take him out!!:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,225 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    newmills wrote: »
    You haven't seen the head on him - the tide wouldn't take him out!!:D:D

    Isn't there a 7 day cooling off period under EU regulations, during which time you can take your new daughter back and swap her for a boy? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Congrats, a beautiful baby, that's all that counts. I got 2 daughters, never bothered me for a second whether it was 2 boys or 2 girls , they mean the world to me.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    OP, you're not from Dublin, right? We're a touch more liberal up here. Will you castigate the kid because she's not a male? Does she bring shame on the family because she's a girl? :rolleyes::D

    (Spoken only half in jest)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    TBH if the surname is Fritzel or hitler, then I wouldn't be too worried.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Quackles


    Firstly, congratulations. Secondly, I only wish I'd had girls because my married name is stupid. Not literally, figuratively. Hubby was double barreled before I came into the equation at all :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭Alessandra


    Your wife gave birth today and you are on boards?
    Congratulations though:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭newmills


    Confab wrote: »
    OP, you're not from Dublin, right? We're a touch more liberal up here. Will you castigate the kid because she's not a male? Does she bring shame on the family because she's a girl? :rolleyes::D

    (Spoken only half in jest)

    I'm originally from the country but living in dublin for the last 8 years.
    I wouldn't swap one of my daughters for any boy. It's not about the shame of having a daughter - you have no idea how proud of them i am - it's more the fact that your family name is gone - just like that!!
    Maybe in dublin people don't care as they blow around the city from suburb to housing estate - it's just in the country the name maybe means a bit more.:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    Quackles wrote: »
    Firstly, congratulations. Secondly, I only wish I'd had girls because my married name is stupid. Not literally, figuratively. Hubby was double barreled before I came into the equation at all :(

    You didn't have to marry him, and you're right Quackles isn't great..:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    newmills wrote: »
    I'm originally from the country but living in dublin for the last 8 years.
    I wouldn't swap one of my daughters for any boy. It's not about the shame of having a daughter - you have no idea how proud of them i am - it's more the fact that your family name is gone - just like that!!
    Maybe in dublin people don't care as they blow around the city from suburb to housing estate - it's just in the country the name maybe means a bit more.:confused:

    Your family name will be around for as long as you are. Congrats, go enjoy yourself and get rid of those morbid thoughts.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭midlandsmissus


    newmills wrote: »
    I'm originally from the country but living in dublin for the last 8 years.
    I wouldn't swap one of my daughters for any boy. It's not about the shame of having a daughter - you have no idea how proud of them i am - it's more the fact that your family name is gone - just like that!!
    Maybe in dublin people don't care as they blow around the city from suburb to housing estate - it's just in the country the name maybe means a bit more.:confused:

    Alot of women are keeping their maiden name these days. I'm engaged and intend on keeping my maiden name when I get married.

    By the time your daughters grow up, the tradition of taking your husbands name will probably have died out altogether.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭newmills


    Alot of women are keeping their maiden name these days. I'm engaged and intend on keeping my maiden name when I get married.

    By the time your daughters grow up, the tradition of taking your husbands name will probably have died out altogether.

    Men will probably have died out as a species!!:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Every time I read the thread title I start humming this to myself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rppct2qE_ys


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Quackles


    You didn't have to marry him, and you're right Quackles isn't great..:D

    Oh yes I did, he drugged me and then put a gun to my head. He just wanted his green card out of Dublin :mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,389 ✭✭✭Carlow52


    newmills wrote: »
    So this afternoon my wife gave birth to our 3rd daughter - hannah

    I was delighted (obviously), and when my wife and I were talking afterwards it dawned on me that this will be our last child and so my family name stops.

    I have 2 brothers - one at home and one in oz - neither look like getting married and so the name also stops with them - probably.

    My dad had 6 brothers and from that they in turn had 9 boys.
    Two of them are dead, and from that 9 we have produced 1 boy who has moved a long way from my dads home village.

    So it looks like that in the space of a generation my family name will be no more in my village!!

    Does any one else think about keeping the family name alive or is a case of meh?

    Sperm bank: go collect the seed and name it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭peepeep


    OP - What about the death of your wife's name? She gave up her surname when she married you, suggesting that her name was not particularly important to either of you.

    Why should your name be treated any differently? Is it because you are male?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,472 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Pighead wrote: »
    Pressure's on Pighead to keep his family name alive. He's the only male in the family and so the burden of reproducing a male lies squarely upon his shoulders. It would be an awful shame if the name died because of Pighead. Our family has done an awful lot of good things over the years.

    Hopefully within ten years there will be a Pighead Christ Jr to continue our dynasty.



    Imagine the stigma of failure Pighead if you don't succeed.
    You'll probably never show your face again on boards with the shame of it all.


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