Fantasy Fight - Hagler vs Hopkins

itouchmyself

Hagler vs Hopkins

The last two undisputed middleweight champions. Hopkins for longer but Hagler against better opposition imo.
Id go with Hagler by UD.
What you's think???

itouchmyself

First thread and no answers :mad:
Knew I should off went with "Dwight moe Quawi(Holyfield 1 version) vs Roy Jones Jr!!! (Quawi for me) or LaMotta v Hagler:pac:

cowzerp

I'd probably go with Hagler myself but this would be a cracker, i could imagine hopkins been slick and hard to catch but hagler been good enough to force a late stoppage win..

itouchmyself

Ye I love and hate Hopkins for the same reason, he does what he has to to win ie. clinging slowing it right down and all that! Hagler was more exciting imo.
Dont see a stoppage at all tho.

Kess73

Hagler for me.

Everything Hopkins has, Hagler has in spades plus more on top of it. If I had to pick an all time favourite fighter of mine in terms of attitude, will to win, toughness, heart, and skills when needed, then Hagler tops my list everytime.

I never tire of watching his old fights, and can safely say that he was the reason I first stepped into a ring.





My dream middleweight fight was always Hagler vs Monzon. Just a shame that Hagler was overlooked for his title shot whilst Monzon held the belt. Would have been a war.

Big Ears

What everyone forgets with threads like these is that 24 hour weigh ins changed boxing quite a lot.

Hagler would of only been a Light-Middleweight in the newer era, Hopkins a Light-Heavyweight in the old one. Size will matter here, Hopkins UD in a good fight.

walshb

Big Ears wrote: »

What everyone forgets with threads like these is that 24 hour weigh ins changed boxing quite a lot.

Hagler would of only been a Light-Middleweight in the newer era, Hopkins a Light-Heavyweight in the old one. Size will matter here, Hopkins UD in a good fight.

Absolutely. HOP is a big big midlle and I think he started out at 175 lbs.
The guy is so strong and rugged and clever. I really feel his style is very
bad for Marvin and I se him earning a points win. Marvin will press the action, but HOP's brain and tactics and punch placement will win this.

megadodge

I don't think Hopkins was that big at all. He regularly used to mention that he could easily make light-middle and only weighed 11'2" for De LaHoya, 11'3" for Trinidad, 11'21/2" for John David Jackson. Guys who are big for the weight don't come in THAT much under. Plus he always claimed he walked around at not much over his fighting weight, which I believe, as he was always in shape and stayed at middle for so long.

As for the fight, I think a lot of people when they think of Hagler think of the Hearns,Mugabi and Leonard fights, when Marvin was well past his best and looked like a slugger, when in fact in his prime he was a masterful boxer, who could box both coming forward or backing up, inside and outside, orthodox or southpaw (better southpaw), excellent handspeed, excellent southpaw jab, huge workrate, best chin ever, good defence, marvellously conditioned and always hungry.

I don't think it would be a good fight, no Hopkins fight ever is !! I do think Marvin would press the action and Bernard move, but the problem for Hopkins always has been, he just doesn't throw enough to offset Hagler's workrate and when Hagler gets inside Hopkins would spend most of his time holding and wrestling and trying to avoid Hagler's brilliant short uppercuts.

I see a close, messy fight with Hagler coming out by UD due to throwing and landing more punches, but Hopkins whinging afterwards about how he was robbed and not forgetting to mention a few hundred times that he was in jail (oh really Bernard, how come you never told us before).