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The (double) rapists mother sings outside the court

  • 15-07-2009 5:17pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    This scumbags mother started singing outside the court and then delcared her son a good man who was innocent! The vid/audio may be on rte later.

    A 35-year-old man who raped an 85-year-old woman in her home last summer has been sentenced to 21 years in prison.

    Simon McGinley of Latlorcan Court, Monaghan, previously served six years in prison for raping a 13-year-old girl at the centre of the 'C' case.

    The girl was babysitting his three children 12 years ago.

    Mr Justice George Birmingham said that this case was just about as bad as it gets when you consider the age and frailty of the victim.

    Justice Birmingham said it is hard to come to terms with the fact that the same person was capable of raping a 13-year-old girl and an 85-year-old woman.

    He said McGinley was treated leniently by the courts for the rape of the child and the structure of the sentence then was designed to offer some light at the end.

    By his activity, however, the judge said he had chosen to spurn the opportunity made available to him.

    The judge said if McGinley cannot address his drink problem, everyone from very young girls to very old ladies is at risk.

    McGinley was sentenced to 21 years in prison, but with remission he will serve less than 16 years and he will be released when he is 50.

    from 1998
    Mr Justice Quirke told him he had to pay a heavy penalty for what was a particularly abhorrent rape. Not only had he violated an innocent girl and used violence against her but his action had also led to the death of another child through abortion.

    His victim was only 13 years and the effect on her had been devastating. She had endured much, not only from the rape but from what followed as a result. "You have deprived her of some of her childhood and all of her adolescence. You do not seem to appreciate the enormity of what you done."
    Mr Justice Quirke continued: "You are not a demon though some less responsible sections of the media have attempted to demonise you. You are a human being who did a dreadful, evil thing which left this young woman heavily, psychologically scarred for the rest of her life."

    The effect on her would probably have followed even if she had consented to have sex with him because she was only a child. The judge said he was sure McGinley should be conscious of that as he had a daughter himself who would soon be 13.

    Mr Justice Quirke said he took into account McGinley's previous good character, the fact he was a responsible husband and good provider for his family and that he had pleaded guilty even though that was after a jury had been sworn in

    However, his plea had spared his victim having to relive her terrible experience in evidence. He suspended the final four years of sentence on condition McGinley undergo sex offenders treatment in prison. well that worked a treat

    And this fella will be lurking again aged 50. Makes you wonder why a minimum sentence wasn't imposed.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    wonder what the sentence would have been if the victim was the mother of that bastid judge?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 985 ✭✭✭spadder


    I hope the scumbag rapist and the evil wench who spawned him, die screaming.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭Dennis the Stone


    They shouldn't have bothered to show her, she's obviously mentally ill.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,051 ✭✭✭Whosbetter?


    Black Cat, Black Kitten.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    this is the guy !!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    What did she sing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    mum was a bit funny - really wierd when she started singing (where was simon cowell and louis walsh ???)


    have a look at the camera guys face as she starts singing !!! Priceless


    watch out for two other stories tomorrow (Tom the Con) and Roisin Harkin (suing claiming whiplash from a bumper car)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    What did she sing?

    havent a clue...sounded like some cats fighting !!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    She's no Susan Boyle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    PCPhoto wrote: »
    have a look at the camera guys face as she starts singing !!! Priceless

    I dunno, seems more like some covert bewb inspection


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    from what i heard of the last word it sounded like a garth brooks song the cnut is 35 he will be out age 56.

    what do you do with a person like that he cant/wont be rehabilated he denied all charges against him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 166 ✭✭TedB


    I'm from Monaghan. This scumbag better not show his head around Monaghan Town for the rest of his pathetic life. This really shook town to its knee's - that old woman is a familiar face around the Town.

    I hope that mother walks in front of a bus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭Dennis the Stone


    from what i heard of the last word it sounded like a garth brooks song the cnut is 35 he will be out age 56.

    what do you do with a person like that he cant/wont be rehabilated he denied all charges against him.

    He'll probably get a late-night chat show on RTÉ


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭Drakmord


    from what i heard of the last word it sounded like a garth brooks song the cnut is 35 he will be out age 56.

    what do you do with a person like that he cant/wont be rehabilated he denied all charges against him.

    The death penalty?
    I still think we should have retained it for serious crime!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 985 ✭✭✭spadder


    from what i heard of the last word it sounded like a garth brooks song the cnut is 35 he will be out age 56.

    what do you do with a person like that he cant/wont be rehabilated he denied all charges against him.

    If it was a relative of mine,I would do everything within my power and resources to have the f**ker killed. Even if it meant doing it myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    All repeat rapists should be chemically castrated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    What did she sing?
    PCPhoto wrote: »
    havent a clue...sounded like some cats fighting !!!

    A "Mariah Carey" or "Beyonce" cover obviously :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    I hope he gets a taste of his own medicine in prison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    I hope he gets a taste of his own medicine in prison.

    i dont think he will make out alive to be honest and wont be surprised if there is a few attempts on his life while in there.

    it was also reported on the news that the young girl that he abducted and raped years ago was also in court to see him go down i salute her bravery in looking at the cnut that took her innocence/child hood away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    I heard the woman on the radio.

    She obviously as ill as her bastard son.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    Not many busses where that fooker is going unfortunately..

    True, but there is apparently a guy built like a bus there.

    very fond of his grandma...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    All repeat rapists should be chemically castrated

    its been proven that even with chemical castration that doesnt stop the urge that paedo's and rapists have...its not about the act ...its about the dominance over their victim.

    look at this guy in particular .... he raped a kid (C case) and raped an 86yr old .... his wife aint a looker (no offence intended luv if ya read this) ...... in fairness the wife only wanted to get out of the court afterwards - his mum wanted to talk/sing whatever to get attention and claim her sons innocence....even one of his kids said he didnt do it.

    Personally - the system we have is pathetic - families go through the system and still come out and re-offend, longer sentences are the answer ... multiple convictions should result in consecutive sentences and remission should be reduced to 10%, appeals should only be permitted on the basis that new evidence is available.

    Criminals dont act like civil humans - so why treat them like a civil human being.... prisons should be a punishment....some criminals have a better life inside - endless supply of drugs, food, bed, tv and people to talk to - connections to make.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    All repeat rapists should be chemically castrated

    fyp buddy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    PCPhoto wrote: »
    its been proven that even with chemical castration that doesnt stop the urge that paedo's and rapists have...its not about the act ...its about the dominance over their victim.


    Im pretty sure if you chop off his balls the only thing he wil want to dominate is the remote control for the tv.

    The domination you speak of is part of his sexual desire..or so im told.... i wouldnt know..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    PCPhoto wrote: »
    its been proven that even with chemical castration that doesnt stop the urge that paedo's and rapists have...its not about the act ...its about the dominance over their victim.

    there is some truth in that

    is this what you meant My name is URL ?
    All repeat rapists should be chemically castrated tied up with piano wire and handed to the victims family

    If so ? I totally agree


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭ProjectColossus


    Repeat rapists? Too late, too late.

    Say what you will about the death penalty, but it bloody well prevents re-offence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    I hope he gets a taste of his own medicine in prison.

    i dont think he will make out alive to be honest and wont be surprised if there is a few attempts on his life while in there.

    it was also reported on the news that the young girl that he abducted and raped years ago was also in court to see him go down i salute her bravery in looking at the cnut that took her innocence/child hood away.

    the star have a pic of her - it will have her face blocked out .... in fairness.... he only did about 5yrs for the rape of her (a young child) .... and for an 86yr old he gets 21yrs (basically out in about 15yrs)

    theres no justice in this country !!! repeat offences need longer sentences to deter criminals.

    Personal Opinion:
    I've been saying it for years (sterlise them!!!) ... at least that way we stop the social welfare families plaguing society..... less criminals brought into society, less crime comitted and less money spent on social welface families - -- if you investigate the statistics on repeat criminals and social welfare you'll find an interesting trend on how they are linked, generations of families using/abusing the system


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    snyper wrote: »
    Im pretty sure if you chop off his balls the only thing he wil want to dominate is the remote control for the tv.

    The domination you speak of is part of his sexual desire..or so im told.... i wouldnt know..

    the domination is the feeling of power over their victims ... basically making them fear for their lives to the point that they will do whatever you wish ...to please you ... their master.

    this inate sense of immorality allows these people to continue - and unfortunately our current system doesnt allow victims to get justice.

    oh... on a side note: his mum yelled in the court that the victims family should have put their (86yr old) mother in a home and taken care of her...and it would never have happened.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,442 ✭✭✭Firetrap


    With a mother like that, no wonder that excuse for a human being is so f*****d up :mad: My blood boiled when I heard the news report. According to the mother, the family of the old woman should've put her into a home. Jaysus wept.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭RHunce


    did you see the black eye the mother had on her left eye, fair play to whoever hit her


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    Repeat rapists? Too late, too late.

    Say what you will about the death penalty, but it bloody well prevents re-offence.

    I would agree with it - but only on the basis that the proof is irrefutable - only recently there was a case in the court of criminal appeal where a convicted rapist was freed because the "victim" decided to admit she made it up ....she was a child at the time and he spend several years behind bars !!!

    if the person admits to rape/murder (and there is categoric proof - dont want another Dean Lyons)... then lethal injection all the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    i have never seen a thread on boards which was started at 1817 and now were on page 3 at 1908.

    just goes to show the amount of people that are out raged with what this scumbag did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    i have never seen a thread on boards which was started at 1817 and now were on page 3 at 1908.

    just goes to show the amount of people that are out raged with what this scumbag did.

    the terry naked pic thread crashed the internet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭ProjectColossus


    PCPhoto wrote: »
    I would agree with it - but only on the basis that the proof is irrefutable - only recently there was a case in the court of criminal appeal where a convicted rapist was freed because the "victim" decided to admit she made it up ....she was a child at the time and he spend several years behind bars !!!

    if the person admits to rape/murder (and there is categoric proof - dont want another Dean Lyons)... then lethal injection all the way.

    Absoutley. Generally speaking, it seems clear that the death penalty is a very sensitive issue, and it's use should fall under heavy scrutiny, case by case.

    Maybe I'm just pissed off and over reacting, but from what little information is available, I definetly think this animal needs to be put down. 21 years my arse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    the terry naked pic thread crashed the internet

    i know im of topic but what was the above thing about


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    the terry naked pic thread crashed the internet

    i know im of topic but what was the above thing about

    Best not "probe" this any further buddy.

    You are now clean... things you see can not be unseen


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 starwars


    PK2008 wrote: »
    She's no Susan Boyle


    Yer right on that anyway!!!!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,442 ✭✭✭Firetrap


    i have never seen a thread on boards which was started at 1817 and now were on page 3 at 1908.

    just goes to show the amount of people that are out raged with what this scumbag did.

    Well, it is more important that masturbation and stingy people are discussed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    PCPhoto wrote: »
    its been proven that even with chemical castration that doesnt stop the urge that paedo's and rapists have...its not about the act ...its about the dominance over their victim.

    Really? I was under the impression that it worked quite well

    Recidivism rates went from something like 50% to below 5% in one study of Chemical Castration. I'll have a look for links

    That, together with proper treatment & counseling while in prison is surely better than just locking them up and forgetting about them until its time for them to be released.

    As for the death-penalty thing, well it'll never happen once Ireland is a member of the EU.. so theres no harm in trying some alternatives tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    Bulmers pear is the cheapest form of chemical castration i can think of...

    The victim is too busy trying to dam the flow from their cornhole to even think of a rape..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 806 ✭✭✭bonzos


    give it a few day and a few do gooders will come out of the woodwork claming that this scumbag is a victim of his upbringing etc....i am always amazed that no matter how big of a scumbag you are in this country some person or group will take your side.I wonder how much taxpayers money has been spent on this thug over the years on dole,free housing ,free legal aid,keeping him in prison,garda resourses and courses to "reform:rolleyes:"him..money well spent while children cant get operations due to lack of funds!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭EoC


    Found this on the web...

    http://archives.tcm.ie/westernpeople/2004/12/15/story22826.asp

    ...and to think he did it knowing that people were looking out for him...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Why are we paying to keep him in prision for 21 years?
    Why can't we make use of him and have him rendered down for parts which will make many lives better?
    Really rehabiliation failed him and so did being in prision he's a repeat offender so lets make the best of him

    Heart
    liver
    lungs
    kidneys
    corena
    skin
    retina
    blood
    bone marrow

    Can all be harvested and save or drastically improve the quality of a lot of lives
    and no one would ever have to suffer to be raped by that bastard again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 The Prophecy


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Why are we paying to keep him in prision for 21 years?
    Why can't we make use of him and have him rendered down for parts which will make many lives better?
    Really rehabiliation failed him and so did being in prision he's a repeat offender so lets make the best of him

    Heart
    liver
    lungs
    kidneys
    corena
    skin
    retina
    blood
    bone marrow

    Can all be harvested and save or drastically improve the quality of a lot of lives
    and no one would ever have to suffer to be raped by that bastard again.



    lol@your comments.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,833 ✭✭✭✭Armin_Tamzarian


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Why are we paying to keep him in prision for 21 years?
    Why can't we make use of him and have him rendered down for parts which will make many lives better?
    Really rehabiliation failed him and so did being in prision he's a repeat offender so lets make the best of him

    Heart
    liver
    lungs
    kidneys
    corena
    skin
    retina
    blood
    bone marrow

    Can all be harvested and save or drastically improve the quality of a lot of lives
    and no one would ever have to suffer to be raped by that bastard again.

    I think I'd rather die than receive any spare parts off that scumbag.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    PCPhoto wrote: »
    mum was a bit funny - really wierd when she started singing (where was simon cowell and louis walsh ???)


    have a look at the camera guys face as she starts singing !!! Priceless


    watch out for two other stories tomorrow (Tom the Con) and Roisin Harkin (suing claiming whiplash from a bumper car)

    F*ck that, have a look at the rack on yer one in the white top


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 The Prophecy


    I think I'd rather die than receive any spare parts off that scumbag.

    When death stares you in the face or you have to watch a brother or sister take their last breath, your mind will be different set, you have to actually think about the choice.

    Then you will know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭MizzLolly


    I couldn't believe it when I heard his mother say that the poor old lady's family should have had her in a home. This woman actually believes that the family of his victim is responsible for her son's crime. Stupid, crazy, stupid, stupid woman. Really though, the media shouldn't be giving her so much attention. There are more people out there who have something worth saying, rather than this monster's pathetic excuse of a mother.


    I'm personally delighted he got 21 years. By Ireland's standards that's a good harsh sentence (though, it should be life methinks) and I hope the scumbag serves every second of it. He's already ruined two lives, not to mention the devastation he's caused on the loved one's of his two victims.


    My thoughts and well wishes to all who've been harmed by this man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭irish_bob


    I hope he gets a taste of his own medicine in prison.

    i dont think he will make out alive to be honest and wont be surprised if there is a few attempts on his life while in there.

    it was also reported on the news that the young girl that he abducted and raped years ago was also in court to see him go down i salute her bravery in looking at the cnut that took her innocence/child hood away.

    hes a tinker , prisons are full of tinkers and they protect thier own , the only change for the SOB will be not having to **** in the woods


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭as125634do


    jez that is unbelievable if i raped someone in my area id be dead if not my neighbours then any number of my relatives! but this man walks around for years after raping a 13 year old! unbeleivable. im going now. bye!


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