2002 MITSUBISHI L200 Warrior

tom_ass19

Hey, first time posting in the motor section so be kind please to my noob questions

At the moment im driving(dont laugh) a 94 toyota corolla 1.3, gets me around

Ive decided to upgrade a bit to the named vehicle above because my car atm is just becoming unsafe to drive. Reason why im getting the L200 is to transport my kayaks around and driving to work everyday which is a 110min drive there and back.

My main question is how much would you reckon it costs to fill the L200, its a 2.5 diesel, not the turbo. I just need to figure out my expenses before I go ahead with it, the roads that I would be travelling on are only 50mph and not very safe to go any faster so I wouldnt be using too much diesel by going on a motorway for example.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance.


Cheers,
Tom

R.O.R

tom_ass19 wrote: »

Hey, first time posting in the motor section so be kind please to my noob questions

At the moment im driving(dont laugh) a 94 toyota corolla 1.3, gets me around

Ive decided to upgrade a bit to the named vehicle above because my car atm is just becoming unsafe to drive. Reason why im getting the L200 is to transport my kayaks around and driving to work everyday which is a 110min drive there and back.

My main question is how much would you reckon it costs to fill the L200, its a 2.5 diesel, not the turbo. I just need to figure out my expenses before I go ahead with it, the roads that I would be travelling on are only 50mph and not very safe to go any faster so I wouldnt be using too much diesel by going on a motorway for example.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance.


Cheers,
Tom

It will cost you a fortune in fuel! As a company car a couple of years ago I had a Pajero Sport commercial which is more or less the same as the L200. Thank god I had a fuel card.

My journey was around 60km each way to work. I can't remember how much Diesel was at the time, but it was costing around €70 to fill the tank and for that I could get around 600km. Think it's a 75 litre tank so will cost even more to fill now.

There is no where to put your clutch foot apart from the clutch because the centre console is so close to the pedals. The ride quality of the Pajero Sport was a bit ropey, the L200 is supposed to be worse. If you aren't careful, the things will bite. I've seen 3 Pajero Sports rolled when the RWD and high centre of gravity caught drivers out on icy days (but it can be fun if you are expecting it).

My advice, avoid like the plague and get a nice diesel estate car.

demag

We have a 02 L200 in work, It drinks diesel, has absolutely no power and oil tankers can turn in smaller spaces, the steering lock is absolutely brutal, they are just horrible to drive.Everyone in work hates driving it. Hope I haven't put you off but I would not put money into one.

pred racer

R.O.R wrote: »

It will cost you a fortune in fuel! As a company car a couple of years ago I had a Pajero Sport commercial which is more or less the same as the L200. Thank god I had a fuel card.

My journey was around 60km each way to work. I can't remember how much Diesel was at the time, but it was costing around €70 to fill the tank and for that I could get around 600km. Think it's a 75 litre tank so will cost even more to fill now.

There is no where to put your clutch foot apart from the clutch because the centre console is so close to the pedals. The ride quality of the Pajero Sport was a bit ropey, the L200 is supposed to be worse. If you aren't careful, the things will bite. I've seen 3 Pajero Sports rolled when the RWD and high centre of gravity caught drivers out on icy days (but it can be fun if you are expecting it).

My advice, avoid like the plague and get a nice diesel estate car.

+100

terrible fuel economy (would be grand if it had a 6th gear) terrible ride and handling, its easy to get replacement engines when that one blows up (which it will) because so many of them have been crashed.

mukki

my cousin had an l200 and he had to keep it below 50mph in wet weather becasue it suffered from oversteer on mild bends, he hit the ditch and rolled it onto its roof once, he was amazed how easy it was to do. how do you know this one wasn't rolled too

tom_ass19

one word....."wow" Ok I wont be getting this, I had my eyes on a volkwagen passet 1.9tdi saloon. Im shocked at everyones replies but at least I was told the truth and I honestly do appreciate it. That was one of the main factors that was going to worry me was the fuel consumption.

So would anyone recommend me a better vehicle, what do you think of the car above, I think its the sports version, its a 04 if i remember.


Cheers,
Tom

Gary ITR

I take it you don't want me to move this to 4x4's then

darcy.jonny

i bought one of these new in 2003 and it was gone by 2005 .......

couldnt hack driving the bloody thing any more ......

a)is a heavy lad and drinks the fuel an aweful lot ... i was putting over 120 euro a week into it granted

b) if the roads are unsalf over 50 kpm then this thing will kill you , its very unsteady handles like the titanic and if the roads are slippery or icy etc, dont ecpect the jeep to turn in the direction you want it to at any speed over 10 kph

c) unless you can get this commericaly insured and tax it will cost you a fortune on tax and private insurance will be very high . not to mention after 1 year of having mine really discovered that model is a right rust bucket ....

d) put any box on the back of it and dont ever expect to reverse it with confidence (the mirrors are terrible)

i would never recamend this machine to no one , it is probably the worst pickup in its class the nivara , isuzu , even the ford lad are far better to drive ild have to say the nivara all round is the best

tom_ass19

Onkle wrote: »

I take it you don't want me to move this to 4x4's then

Just one last question about 4x4's


So would the nivara be costing me the same price? I got a quote for the L200, was only 1500 which is alright since im paying 1100 at the moment. If its going to cost me the same as the nivara ill leave it out of the picture.


Any recommendations on the passet?

Brabus

tom_ass19 wrote: »

Hey, first time posting in the motor section so be kind please to my noob questions

At the moment im driving(dont laugh) a 94 toyota corolla 1.3, gets me around

Ive decided to upgrade a bit to the named vehicle above because my car atm is just becoming unsafe to drive. Reason why im getting the L200 is to transport my kayaks around and driving to work everyday which is a 110min drive there and back.

My main question is how much would you reckon it costs to fill the L200, its a 2.5 diesel, not the turbo. I just need to figure out my expenses before I go ahead with it, the roads that I would be travelling on are only 50mph and not very safe to go any faster so I wouldnt be using too much diesel by going on a motorway for example.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance.


Cheers,
Tom

My dad bought one new in '02 and got rid of it two years later. He found it very awkward to manoeuvre especially in confined spaces. Poor turning circle and very hard suspension especially for rear passengers in the double cab version.
He switched to a commercial Pajero, but found that very heavy on fuel like the L200 as well. Now he has a Landcruiser and is happy with it.
Apperantly, the current version L200 is supposed to be a big improvement on the previous one in terms of ride, handling and fuel consumption. This model came out in '06 or '07, not sure which year.
My advice would be to check out the Toyota Hilux crew cab and see if that suits your needs.
Maybe someone else on boards here knows a bit more about them.
Also check out the Nissan Navara as well, good luck with your search.

tom_ass19

Thanks for all the info, didnt think I woudl be getting this much

I dont think ill be able to afford a 06/07 range of the L200. If I can pick up a nivara around the 02-04 range and if the fuel consumption isnt as bad the L200 id be happy. Any more recommendations on the nivara concerning fuel consumption would be appreciated.

Since the feedback ive been having from the L200 isnt great I might pick up a VW or Audi saloon 1.9, any other recommendations on them would also be appreciated


Thanks in advance,
Tom

Owen

The navara apparently has a 1 star safety rating. Do you want to be riding in something that unsafe?

http://www.euroncap.com/tests/nissan_navara/317.aspx

peasant

Get yourself a nice, comfy and frugal "normal" diesel car ...and a trailer for the kayaks.

tom_ass19

Ok the "trucks" are not out of the question :P


You mentioned a nice diesel, as I was saying earlier how do people think of a VW passet?

BrianD3

Most kayakers that I know have large estate cars and put the kayaks on a roof rack. That probably hurts economy so putting them on a trailer might be better.

As already stated, the L200 is appalling and a very bad choice for a 110 minute commute. And not even particulary good for hauling kayaks - the pickup part is nowhere near long enough to put a kayak in if that's what you were intending.

tom_ass19

Ya ive seen alot with estate alright but not much into estates, my kayak is only a creek boat so its long like a sea kayak. Well thats for your reply

HashSlinging

A mte of mine has a matiz and throws the kayak on the roof rack. Job done.

merc609

The Passat is a great car had one up until i bought a new octavia also a great diesel. Both Cars have great fuel consumpsion and would be ideal for long commutes. Can be a bit expensive on parts tough, clutches flywheels timing belts etc.. general wear and tear. Try find one with a good service history and ya be laughin:D.. Also if you buying one to pull a trailer for your kayaks buy one which has no towbar fitted, some would be known for pullin heavy loads.

tom_ass19

Thanks for the input HashSlinging :P


Im in work at the moment so I havent had much time to to roaming around autotrader, ill be buying from the UK aswell. Do you think 124k is too much for a 04 passet tdi? Hes asking 4600sterling for it but I think its that price only because of the work that has been put in it, 19" alloys, tinted windows and its been lowered apartently. I just sent him an email asking if he could send me a copy of the service history.

Farls

Pre '06 L200's are one of the worst jeeps on the road. I've drove a few of them before and they are a disaster not only on handling but fuel consumption is a joke.

I have an 08 L200 Animal, its the next one up from the Warrior and the improvement is something else. All the afformentioned problems have been fixed and not only that but fixed well. I get around 34 mpg which I think is fantastic for a 2.5 litre.

What kind of coin are you willing to part with? An 06 L200 from the UK cleared and on the road here will set you back in the region of 14k euro at the moment.

For just bringing kayaks though I don't see the need for a jeep?

meathstevie

I have a Mazda B2500 2.5 TD ( identical to Ford Ranger ), 01 vintage I bought in England. I have it about a year now and all said and done it's a fine machine as long as you know what to expect. It doesn't handle like a car nor is it as fast as a car. I didn't have Toyota Hilux money available and settled for what I think is the next best thing. I've used it for a fair bit of work like drawing turf and firewood and regularly have it off road when going for a bit of shooting and it handles itself fine.

GERMAN ROCKS

for that much mileage a day stay well clear of a 4x4. get a diesel saloon.
get a 05 peugeot 407 estate 1.6hdi. those diesel engines are one of the best engines on the market. also the run on the smell of diesel.

paddyblack

i have a 2006 warrior and every time i set the time clock it will stay for about 5 seconds but it will then jump on by 45 mins. tried every thing, can anybody help?

Thatnastyboy

Buy a watch :pac: & a time - machine


Seriously though, its an odd problem :eek:

Perhaps pull the plug on the clock and stick a small one from ebay or something in front of it instead..

comanche_cor

tom_ass19 wrote: »

Ya ive seen alot with estate alright but not much into estates, my kayak is only a creek boat so its long like a sea kayak. Well thats for your reply

A Jeep will murder you on fuel & tax if only used for kayaking, the only thing they are useful for are the shuttle where you pile loads of people in to the back (clown car like) and you don't want to be stuck doing shuttle!

You don't really want to be sticking your kayaking in the back of anything anyways, it will be wet and muddy ... Get a hatchback or a Estate & a good roof rack, you will safe far more money on tax & fuel

I do a bit of kayaking and I make do with a 4 door saloon, only thing that gets me is if I want to get out for an after work run I can't bring the kayak with me to work as it would be robbed from the top of the car in Dublin city center. But I can get around it by asking someone else to bring my kayak for me. For this reason though when changing to my next car I will move to an estate so that I can pop Kayak in in the morning when clean and try and then on the way home it will be going on the roof ..

comanche_cor

Ah FFS ... zombie thread ...

comanche_cor wrote: »

A Jeep will murder you on fuel & tax if only used for kayaking, the only thing they are useful for are the shuttle where you pile loads of people in to the back (clown car like) and you don't want to be stuck doing shuttle!

You don't really want to be sticking your kayaking in the back of anything anyways, it will be wet and muddy ... Get a hatchback or a Estate & a good roof rack, you will safe far more money on tax & fuel

I do a bit of kayaking and I make do with a 4 door saloon, only thing that gets me is if I want to get out for an after work run I can't bring the kayak with me to work as it would be robbed from the top of the car in Dublin city center. But I can get around it by asking someone else to bring my kayak for me. For this reason though when changing to my next car I will move to an estate so that I can pop Kayak in in the morning when clean and try and then on the way home it will be going on the roof ..