Harry Potter half blood prince ...

chezzer

With the release of this soon , i wanted to ask people what they thought of the other films

I think the irony (for me ) is that the 1st 3 films were the best ... but the 4th and 5th i didn't really like ... and i expect the 6th won't be great either ... however these books were my favourite of the series ... perhaps it's the scriptwriters are changing too much in the latest films due to length of books ?? i dunno they lack something ...

Retr0gamer

I think this and the last book are going to be by far the most difficult to film. There's an awful lot of time in the books were not much happens and it's mostly character development.

Micilin Muc

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I think this and the last book are going to be by far the most difficult to film. There's an awful lot of time in the books were not much happens and it's mostly character development.

I saw the press screening yesterday and

that's exactly how I'd describe the film

.

Black Lead

The problems with the last couple of films and forthcoming ones is the books have so much material and plots that it was impossible to film everything or even make a faithful adaption the films are rushed condensed and suffer greatly because of this one of the main things is things may not make sense for example an important scene in book 4 is left out of the film version but a later films refers to it and the scriptwriters say "Oh sod we should have left that in"

Harry Potter Books should have been made into a TV series it would have been better characters would have been flesh out and everything could have been included.

MooseJam

never have any never will watch a harry potter film

Penn

MooseJam wrote: »

never have any never will watch a harry potter film

I used to be the same. There is a lot of nonsense in them, but overall they're not bad. There are far worse things you can be watching.

Didn't like the first and fourth ones. The rest were pretty good. Not a huge fan, but I'll see the new one if I get a chance. Not overly pushed though

DancingQueen:)

chezzer wrote: »

I think the irony (for me ) is that the 1st 3 films were the best ... but the 4th and 5th i didn't really like ... and i expect the 6th won't be great either ... however these books were my favourite of the series ... perhaps it's the scriptwriters are changing too much in the latest films due to length of books ?? i dunno they lack something ...

I agree i loved the 4th and 5th books but the films didnt blow me away : (
I hope the next film is going to be better because the book was pretty amazing, in my opinion,, my fingers are offically crossed!

tok9

i thought the fourth one was the best film of them to be honest...

chezzer

MooseJam wrote: »

never have any never will watch a harry potter film

I used to say that about the films and the books ... then I read the 1st book ... quite good ... 2nd better ... 3rd good ... 4th .. great .. 5th excellent .. 6th excellent ... 7th very good...

Shryke

The films are your standard entertainingish canonfodder. Very hit and miss, and based on a series that is frankly a not great kids series. I'd call it much worse but I'm sure people would get very defensive. The later books are a special flavour of arse after Rowling got popular and decided she didn't need to listen to an editor.

I'll watch the new film at some point though. They're much easier to stand than the books and really aren't all that bad compared to a lot of other stuff. Maybe I'll do some drinking before hand

irish_bob

MooseJam wrote: »

never have any never will watch a harry potter film

i watched the 1st two and bits of the third , hated all of them , i just dont get it

partyatmygaff

Not much to get in it really, plot is fairly straightforward. Gonna watch no. 6 and no.7 when its released, loved the books, the films weren't too bad, favourite was No. 4 by far.

I like the films far more than the books. I read the first three over a day or so and spent more time making notes of which writers Rowling had stolen from than anything else. The later books, well I tried book 4 but it was complete toss and nearly as bad as the works of Stephanie Myers.

Paparazzo

I wouldn't be buying them on DVD or anything, but find them enjoyable to watch in the cinema or on telly at christmas. I'll definitely go and see this on the big screen, decent supporting cast too

Greyfox

chezzer wrote: »

With the release of this soon , i wanted to ask people what they thought of the other films

I think the irony (for me ) is that the 1st 3 films were the best ... but the 4th and 5th i didn't really like ... and i expect the 6th won't be great either ... perhaps it's the scriptwriters are changing too much in the latest films due to length of books ?? i dunno they lack something ...

I agree, I really enjoyed the first three films (third been the best) but theirs loads of stuff left out of the 4th (best book ever written in my opinion) and 5th so didn't think they were that great but then again their was far to much material for them to fit everything in!

can't wait for the 6th and 7th film and very happy that the last one will be in 2 parts, in any case the books are miles better than the films!

MooseJam

Greyfox wrote: »

best book ever written in my opinion

you've read them all so

Handsome Bob

I'm tempted to go see it today, but I need advice.:p I'm not really a fan, I've read two of the books and I've seen about three of the films (the first two and the one before the last one). I want to see it because I like the look and feel of the film, but will I be totally lost watching it?

lou91

Voldemort is back, Sirius is dead.
That's all you need to know really...

thorbarry

MooseJam wrote: »

never have any never will watch a harry potter film

then why did you post in a thread asking peoples opinions on the other films? if you havent seen em, you have no opinion

pikachucheeks

I saw the film on Monday night.

DJs from 98fm were introducing the film. "Not to give too much away, but there's two love scenes in the film!"

... Eh, the film's based on a series of books, we all know already!

The special effects in the film were amazing, it was very dramatic!

Some of the bits in the film were scary though, felt bad for the smallies in the audience! Probably were terrified!

I'm a big fan of the books - I tend to seperate them from the films though.

Handsome Bob

So I went to see it, and the best compliment I can give it is that it is generally okay. No stand out moments, it's just a film that keeps on a consistent level.

I did however enjoy watching Helena Bonham Carter and Alan Rickman. Carter was brilliantly sinister, while Rickman manages to say a lot despite having limited dialogue.

I haven't read the last book but am I right in thinking that

Snape is not quite a fully fledged follower of Voldemort? There was just something incredibly reluctant about his murdering of Dumbledore.

FreeOSCAR

LZ5by5 wrote: »

So I went to see it, and the best compliment I can give it is that it is generally okay. No stand out moments, it's just a film that keeps on a consistent level.

I did however enjoy watching Helena Bonham Carter and Alan Rickman. Carter was brilliantly sinister, while Rickman manages to say a lot despite having limited dialogue.

I haven't read the last book but am I right in thinking that

Snape is not quite a fully fledged follower of Voldemort? There was just something incredibly reluctant about his murdering of Dumbledore.

Snape is not quite a fully fledged follower of Voldemort? There was just something incredibly reluctant about his murdering of Dumbledore.

That would be correct.

Also heard a rumour Emma Watson gets naked in this?
Dont remember that been in the book.

BlitzKrieg

Also heard a rumour Emma Watson gets naked in this?

i would like a snappy confirmation on this please

Handsome Bob

lol, from what I remember there's no nakedness from anyone.:p But she does wear a stunning dress that is slightly revealing if that's any consolation.:pac:

razorblunt

Saw this tonight and it gets a big fat "meh" from me. Thought it was the worst of the series to date. Didnt think they handled the infamous death well at all.

Must agree with the poster above who said Helena Bonham Carter and Alan Rickman was excellent as was the youngfella that plays Malfoy thought he was outstanding! The graphics were amazing it has to be said also.

I forget now, but was this the book where

Snape was bullied by Harrys Dad?

If so those scenese should have been included.

Handsome Bob

razorblunt wrote: »

Saw this tonight and it gets a big fat "meh" from me. Thought it was the worst of the series to date. Didnt think they handled the infamous death well at all.

I agree with you on the underwhelming feeling, I did find the film pleasant but that's it. It was nothing gripping IMO.

Must agree with the poster above who said Helena Bonham Carter and Alan Rickman was excellent as was the youngfella that plays Malfoy thought he was outstanding! The graphics were amazing it has to be said also.

Always good to hear people agreeing with me.:pac:

I thought the actor who played Malfoy was strong enough, he did well in Dumbledore's

death

scene.

I forget now, but was this the book where

Snape was bullied by Harrys Dad?

If so those scenese should have been included.

I've been reading up on it and I believe what you are describing is in the last film, not this one.

Johnny Bitte

Just back and seriously enjoyed it. Loved the comedy. The more serious scenes could have been better but I ll take what I get.

Greyfox

MooseJam wrote: »

you've read them all so

No but I've read close to 200 books in my life so far which is enough to realise that theirs something very special about the HP books, nothing I've ever read comes close to the superb last few chapters of the 4th book!

Going to see the 6th film tomorrow...fingers crossed they don't leave too much out! The casting of all the characters in the films has been superb!

Burning Eclipse

LZ5by5 wrote: »

So I went to see it, and the best compliment I can give it is that it is generally okay. No stand out moments, it's just a film that keeps on a consistent level.

I did however enjoy watching Helena Bonham Carter and Alan Rickman. Carter was brilliantly sinister, while Rickman manages to say a lot despite having limited dialogue.

I haven't read the last book but am I right in thinking that

Snape is not quite a fully fledged follower of Voldemort? There was just something incredibly reluctant about his murdering of Dumbledore.

With regard to your above spoiler...

I think Snape in the movie showed a little too much remorse when killing Dumbledore... He shows nothing in the book afaik

I saw it last night. I really enjoyed it, but it's probably my favourite book of the series, so the movie will always suffer. It's called the half blood prince... In the book this is more than adequately explored and explained, I wish I could say the same for the movie. Other than that, and a few little issues, it was very good.

Surprised nobody has mentioned this yet, what with all the talk of the standard of acting, but I thought Jim Broadbent was fantastic!

johnciall

i had a few problems with it,

I felt the pacing was all over the place the film with scens either feeling rushed or just dragging out, i think jim broadbend was hamming it up too much as slughorn,

they cut too much in my opinion, yes i know it was along book with toomuch to put inm a film but it seems like they sacrificed huge amounts of character & arc development for the plot of this film, gor example they entirely left out the minister of magic changing and never explained what inferni are

seraphimvc

i always love the books - i was so frustrated when i saw they cut off so many small details/parts from the original story while in the 4th movie it gone into the unacceptable level i know it is unevitable to do it in a movie but that makes me hated the movies.

deep down in my mind i know they would have done so much better if they are aiming to satisfy us adult harry reader...not gonna watch it in cinema but will watch it anyway

razorblunt

Burning Eclipse wrote: »

With regard to your above spoiler...

I think Snape in the movie showed a little too much remorse when killing Dumbledore... He shows nothing in the book afaik

I saw it last night. I really enjoyed it, but it's probably my favourite book of the series, so the movie will always suffer. It's called the half blood prince... In the book this is more than adequately explored and explained, I wish I could say the same for the movie. Other than that, and a few little issues, it was very good.

Surprised nobody has mentioned this yet, what with all the talk of the standard of acting, but I thought Jim Broadbent was fantastic!

Jim Broadbent is always excellent, maybe that's why its not being mentioned

Handsome Bob

Burning Eclipse wrote: »

With regard to your above spoiler...

I think Snape in the movie showed a little too much remorse when killing Dumbledore... He shows nothing in the book afaik

I saw it last night. I really enjoyed it, but it's probably my favourite book of the series, so the movie will always suffer. It's called the half blood prince... In the book this is more than adequately explored and explained, I wish I could say the same for the movie. Other than that, and a few little issues, it was very good.

Surprised nobody has mentioned this yet, what with all the talk of the standard of acting, but I thought Jim Broadbent was fantastic!

That was very strange indeed. It was just such a blase moment and when Snape revealed himself I just said to myself "Oh really? That's nice.":pac:

banshee_bones

Saw this yesterday and i was so dissapointed. Couldnt believe they cut out

The fight scene at Hogwarts with the death eaters and Dumbledores Funeral!

WTF like!

Roar

they should have changed the name of the movie to Harry Potter and the One Where Not Much Happens for Two and a Half Hours...

it was a passable afternoon's entertainment, and while it's never going to be as good as the books, there was still a lot to admire - in particular the production design and cinematography which were both exceptional.. loved helena bonham carter too..

also, considering the movie is called the half blood prince, there's feic all about the half bllod prince in it really..

things i didn't like

no dumbledore funeral? what a huge mis-step. doesn't the fact that he's buried in hogwarts play a huge part in the final book?

the quidditch game - there was absolutely no point in having this in the movie tbh

so little snape

the reduction of the half blood prince story to just one line of dialogue at the end

i wouldn't be in a rush to go see it again...

iangriffin83

It was a great disappointment, there were parts of the film that didn't even feature in the book and were pointless. I thought it was more like a chick-flick: boy meets girl, boy falls in love with girl. Where was the MAGIC!!!!!!!!!

madbetty

i have to say it was the worst happy potter movie so far. they just completely changed all the scenes in the movie not one of them was like the book at all. really pissed me off ....... :mad: what was the point even making the movie at all. Was it just me or was the acting really bad in this one? i dont think i'll be going to see the last one...

FreeOSCAR

madbetty wrote: »

i have to say it was the worst happy potter movie so far. they just completely changed all the scenes in the movie not one of them was like the book at all. really pissed me off ....... :mad: what was the point even making the movie at all. Was it just me or was the acting really bad in this one? i dont think i'll be going to see the last one...

Would you recommend it over watching the DVD version Kevin & Perry Go Large?

tok9

Went in with little expectations... and i've forgotten most of the things that happened in the book so wasn't really bothered by what was left out or made up.. anyway

i thought it was pretty good...and i'm actually pretty surprised with the response of most people... diff worth a watch i think...

That said there was one or two things that i was disappointed with

the death scene... it just didn't feel right....

This one is probably a whole series spoiler for people who haven't read the books but you could guess it fro watching the movie

Its too far too obvious that snape is a good guy imo... none of these conversations and emotions of remorse were shown in the book and i don't think it was needed in the movie either

Still it was worth the watch and i'd recommend it. it's a close second best in the movies imo... as i said earlier i thought the 4th was the best..

actually another thing.... maybe more hardcore fans could answer

There was pretty much no voldemort at all in this one... Was he in this book much?

Ivan

tok9 wrote: »

Went in with little expectations... and i've forgotten most of the things that happened in the book so wasn't really bothered by what was left out or made up.. anyway

i thought it was pretty good...and i'm actually pretty surprised with the response of most people... diff worth a watch i think...

That said there was one or two things that i was disappointed with

the death scene... it just didn't feel right....

This one is probably a whole series spoiler for people who haven't read the books but you could guess it fro watching the movie

Its too far too obvious that snape is a good guy imo... none of these conversations and emotions of remorse were shown in the book and i don't think it was needed in the movie either

Still it was worth the watch and i'd recommend it. it's a close second best in the movies imo... as i said earlier i thought the 4th was the best..

actually another thing.... maybe more hardcore fans could answer

There was pretty much no voldemort at all in this one... Was he in this book much?

In the book, Voldemort is

Mostly just in several scenes that are overheard or very short in discussion with Draco or in a discussion about Draco. He's not a major element in this book, as far as I remember...

Acacia

They're okay, but I prefer the books. They made the films far too, well, kiddy. And they changed too much stuff. I s'pose I had an idea of how it should have been in my head, but realistically of course, they can't fit everything in, especially with the last four books, because they're so long.

I'll still see this when it comes out though.

Handsome Bob

So I hear that David O'Hara (Fitzy from The Departed, and the mad Irishman in Braveheart) has been cast in the final films. He's reportedly playing a guy called Albert Runcorn who

is a member of the Ministry of Magic. Harry impersonates him in order to infiltrate the ministry. So that means Fitzy will have a scene being Harry Potter.

That's worth the admission fee alone ha.

Handsome Bob

Just read The Ticket's (Irish Times magazine) review and it's really strange. The guy basically tears into it for the whole article, but he still gives it 3/5.

Driver 8

First Harry Potter film I've seen in the cinema. Granted, it didn't feel like 150 mins, but the almost complete lack of incident means it's a pretty empty experience. Still don't like Gambon in that role, but I thought Jim Broadbent acquitted himself well. On the whole, thought it was a passable, pretty unremarkable film.

titan18

Terrible movie.You'd forget its meant to be a Harry Potter movie during it and that you actually came to see some teen love story piece of crap.Anti-climactic ending with not having the fight scene.The death eaters coming to Hogwarts was a waste as they did nothing.Absolute waste of time watching it.

Acacia

Imo, the reason why the films are such a let down is because they are a pure money-making venture. Okay, obviously every film wants to make money, but these films are made with no love/ passion (for want of a better word) towards the books- it doesn't seem like anybody involved with the films even read (except to get the storyline for the film) or care about the books. Sure, yer one who plays Narcissa Malfoy only agreed to do this film because she liked the director's previous work. :rolleyes:

That's why there's no attempt to keep it close to the books in terms of character development, plot, etc. It seems like they just made the films because it was the next logical step in terms of the 'Harry Potter business'- i.e. books, movie, merchandise.

I'd love if some director who was actually passionate about 'Harry Potter the book series' as opposed to 'Harry Potter the cash-cow' re-made the films the way fans actually would like it.

*sigh*

TheDoc

Heres my take on it

I wouldnt say I love the harry potter series, never read the books. But I do give them a watch. I do not think I was taking in by the films on first release because the first two came out roughly around the same time the lord of the rings franchise was being released, and I assumed " lotr is for big boys" and it was to a degree.

However the tone of the HP films got darker as the characters themselves got older, obviously the audience would get older aswell. When the prisoner of azkaban came out, I didnt go see it, I got it on DVd and gave it a watch and decided that yeah it was ok. I have a girlfriend who loves HP so I went along and watched goblet of fire and order of the pheonix and whilst they weren't the best films I've ever seen, they were pretty decent.

However, we went to see this latest addition and although it was a decent film, I couldnt help think the film was way too long, and way too focused on teen love,spite and jealousy. Anytime it came on screen it gave me aggro. When I go to see a film about wizards and magic, I kinda want to see ...magic. The HP series has been a let down for me in this whole aspect, this is the only film where Dumbledore, a supposidly amazing wizard, actually does a half decent spell.

I guess I'm of a more modern maybe warcraft influenced thinking of "wizard". Where it is not a wand, its a stave and hands conjuring immense jaw dropping spells.

I found the actual main plot point, what the films title implies, disappointing on such a scale its outrageous. Like I said, I've never read the books but

I do not know how important the half prince actually is, but it sounded pretty important, yet you find out in a 5 seconds piece of dialogue, that was utter ****e, for something that ive bene told is on par with darth vader telling luke he is his father, they made an awful hash of it

I also found

Malfoy to be very annoying and very pointless, it was like this film was short on film time, so they shot an abundance of crap to fill gaps. I gathered early on what was happening with him, but for what is essentially the main characters nemesis, its always dissapointing in any scene he is in

And for the big one

The death of the "greatest wizard of all time" was utterly laughable in fairness. I'm not getting into the " why didn't he fight" and that ****e, but it was very underwhelming and mute, a gathering of people having a cry doesn't make it any bit better. There was no feeling or soul between snape and dumbledore, he didnt even look suprised that his friend and a guy he trusted, is going to brap him, unless im missing something

The more I think about the film the more dissapointed I get

And the more I do, the more I realise I've never really liked the HP franchise, and never understood all the hype. A host of annoying characters, a small portion of quality actors. A very large amount of very poor quality cgi, a very large amount of underwhelming pants spells.

Throughout the series.

Cant help but feel the whole lot of the films are over rated.

Roll on the warcraft and warhammer films to show us real wizards and magic in action

Handsome Bob

Acacia wrote: »

Imo, the reason why the films are such a let down is because they are a pure money-making venture. Okay, obviously every film wants to make money, but these films are made with no love/ passion (for want of a better word) towards the books- it doesn't seem like anybody involved with the films even read (except to get the storyline for the film) or care about the books. Sure, yer one who plays Narcissa Malfoy only agreed to do this film because she liked the director's previous work. :rolleyes:

That's why there's no attempt to keep it close to the books in terms of character development, plot, etc. It seems like they just made the films because it was the next logical step in terms of the 'Harry Potter business'- i.e. books, movie, merchandise.

I'd love if some director who was actually passionate about 'Harry Potter the book series' as opposed to 'Harry Potter the cash-cow' re-made the films the way fans actually would like it.

*sigh*

Doesn't JK Rowling have a major say in this franchise?

Acacia

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Doesn't JK Rowling have a major say in this franchise?

She gets money from it I'm sure, but by the looks of things, she doesn't have much creative input. That's what it looks like to me anyway.

BlitzKrieg

p*ssed at the film?

watch this instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ_4j68l7Jo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70ABKwflFZ0

THEZAPPA

I saw the "Half blood prince" yesterday and I hated it.
I was so disappointed, I just sat there waiting for the film to really begin and it never really did.

The cave scene was the best bit in the whole film. Waste of my time!