How come Dunnestores dont do bra size for big bust girls

heavymetalrock

hi, how come Dunnes stores don't have bra sizes for big bust girls, they only do up to( DD),i thinks its on fair cos u have to to M&S to get measure and get your bras, does any else agree with me?

rainbow kirby

Meh, I always preferred M&S anyway, even before I ended up with huge boobs. I find cheaper ones just do not support enough (apart from that €5 Berlei Shock Absorber... win!).

Busi_Girl08

It's times like this that I miss Roches

The girls there were brilliant at measuring properly, and they always had plenty of good sizes.

I'm a big busty lassy, at around 36F, so it is really hard for me to get a well fitting bra.

Xiney

Dunnes stores bras are rubbish anyway - you're not missing anything!

SmokeyJo84

IronyMaiden wrote: »

Dunnes stores bras are rubbish anyway - you're not missing anything!

i second this!

i go to debnhams for their own range and for freya underwear....more expensive but very pretty!

Nevyn

They do not want to do the larger sizes cos they cost more to make and need a different support structure and people would expect them to be the same cost as the rest of the range of bras.

you should try here
http://bramora.com/contact_us.php?blink=ct

shellyboo

Meh, it's not the lack of bra sizes that bug me - it's when a shop goes to all the bother of making up to GG or something and then just has the matching briefs in 8, 10, 12 and 14. Makes no sense.


I heard a rumour that Penney's are doing larger bust sizes now, but since the above scenario no doubt prevails, I haven't bothered to check.

Xiney

I'll be honest - I haven't bought an "everyday" bra since I moved to Ireland two years ago.

I've been buying the same bra over and over again from Triumph for nearly 10 years now and they don't sell it here. Resistant to change, I am! And I'm only a B!

jellie

i think they do make bigger sizes but just in awful awful styles?

shellyboo wrote: »

I heard a rumour that Penney's are doing larger bust sizes now, but since the above scenario no doubt prevails, I haven't bothered to check.

I think i saw D+ sizes in not-completely-ugly bras in penneys recently, but they didnt look very secure. although to be honest it was awhile ago so i cant be sure. i dont think id trust penneys for bras..

No offence intended, but my god - exactly how "large" do you want to get and STILL expect somewhere like Dunnes to cater for you?

Perhaps you should be trying some sort of specialist shop?

shivvyban

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

Perhaps you should be trying some sort of specialist shop?

It shouldn't have to come to that!

Xiney

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

No offence intended, but my god - exactly how "large" do you want to get and STILL expect somewhere like Dunnes to cater for you?

Perhaps you should be trying some sort of specialist shop?

Please take a less snide tone.

Ta.

shellyboo

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

No offence intended, but my god - exactly how "large" do you want to get and STILL expect somewhere like Dunnes to cater for you?

Perhaps you should be trying some sort of specialist shop?

Considering it's something we can't control I'd say it's perfectly reasonable to expect shops to cater for a generous range of sizes. Much like shoe size - people with bigger feet find it really hard to find nice shoes to fit. It's pretty unfair.

sosyourface

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

No offence intended, but my god - exactly how "large" do you want to get and STILL expect somewhere like Dunnes to cater for you?

Perhaps you should be trying some sort of specialist shop?

It's not a case of "wanting" to get large, some people are just blessed/cursed with big boobs! I'm a size 10-12 and I'm a 36E in the boob department. So I'm naturaly top-heavy, not by choice.

What we need to remember is that you are NOT actually ONE specific bra size!!!! You can vary depending on the shop and the range that you buy. So if you think of the amount of shops that sell bras and the amount of various ranges that exist, it's easy to see how a high percentage of women do not wear bras that fit! You might be a 32B in one shop and range, and then find you are slightly different size somewhere else! So it's always better to try on a few different sizes.

In regular shops I find the best fit to be in Debenhams (the Debehams Gorgeous range is my fave) and they do sizes up to 38GG I think. But their range of colours/styles is somewhat limited in the larger sizes alright. So I'm starting to shop online now - the best place in my opinion is Bravissimo. They cater for bigger ladies (in everyday bras, fancy bras for "special occasions", bikinis/swimsuits, pyjamas with hidden support, and tailored clothes (because people like me need space at the bust but want the clothes that fit at the waist too!) www.bravissimo.com - they show you on the site how to measure yourself to find what size you are in the Bravissimo range which is great.

Fluffybums

How about bigger bras that don't look like Brunel designed them. I may be over weight and have big boobs, but I still want to feel a little bit girly even if only with my under wear.
Why oh why would anyone want a breast enlargement:eek:.

Jood

shellyboo wrote: »

Meh, it's not the lack of bra sizes that bug me - it's when a shop goes to all the bother of making up to GG or something and then just has the matching briefs in 8, 10, 12 and 14. Makes no sense.


I heard a rumour that Penney's are doing larger bust sizes now, but since the above scenario no doubt prevails, I haven't bothered to check.

I'm a DD and I got a gorgeous pink bra in Penney's the other week, its gives great support and looks pretty. I even went back and got it in the other colours they have!

shellyboo

Jood wrote: »

I'm a DD and I got a gorgeous pink bra in Penney's the other week, its gives great support and looks pretty. I even went back and got it in the other colours they have!

Everywhere does DD though, it's above DD that's the problem, and bigger back sizes!

iguana

shellyboo wrote: »

Meh, it's not the lack of bra sizes that bug me - it's when a shop goes to all the bother of making up to GG or something and then just has the matching briefs in 8, 10, 12 and 14. Makes no sense.

The cup size has nothing to do with waist/hip size. So it's perfectly possible to be a GG and a size 8. The back size can be indicative of waist/hip size as it's a general width size, but it can still be completely different. The cup size is the proportional difference to your back size. Someone who is a 40A is likely to be about size 16-18 whereas a 32G (in M&S size) will often be a size 8 - 10, yet both women will measure the same width around the bust.

shellyboo

iguana wrote: »

The cup size has nothing to do with waist/hip size. So it's perfectly possible to be a GG and a size 8. The back size can be indicative of waist/hip size as it's a general width size, but it can still be completely different. The cup size is the proportional difference to your back size. Someone who is a 40A is likely to be about size 16-18 whereas a 32G (in M&S size) will often be a size 8 - 10, yet both women will measure the same width around the bust.

Yep, but it's also perfectly possible to be a GG and a size 20 - so why make the 8 but not the 20? Is stupid. That was my point.

It's the whole "Oh look how inclusive and amazing we are making bigger bust sizes" malarkey that pisses me off, cos they're still excluding a whole heap of women by not also making matching underwear in bigger sizes.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

they're not in business to make you feel good about yourself, if they thought there was money in stocking that stuff they would stock it. They don't, so they don't.

It's that simple and it's really nothing to get offended over.

shellyboo

Captain Mords Spiced 42 inch Bum wrote: »

they're not in business to make you feel good about yourself, if they thought there was money in stocking that stuff they would stock it. They don't, so they don't.

It's that simple and it's really nothing to get offended over.

I'm not offended, I find it inconvenient, and I already feel fine about myself thanks very much. Would be nice, however, to be able to buy lingerie in a proper shop as opposed to online.

And there's plenty of money in it, believe me. The amount of women I know with a serious lingerie habit who buy everything online... highstreet shops haven't a clue what they're missing out on.

iguana

Captain Mords Spiced 42 inch Bum wrote: »

they're not in business to make you feel good about yourself, if they thought there was money in stocking that stuff they would stock it. They don't, so they don't.

It's that simple and it's really nothing to get offended over.

Actually there is money to be made in stocking larger sizes. However most high street brands have an image that they work to build, a lifestyle that their brands project. And they believe that having larger women walking around in their designs would ruin that image. So instead of stocking all sizes in all of their stores they make separate ranges for different body sizes and sell them in different stores. For example, Topshop and Miss Selfridges are owned by the same company who own Evans.

G86

I find La Senza quite good for DD+ sizes. I'd the same problem with Dunnes, especially trying to find a decent bikini, I remember trying one on that barely covered anything and the chick in there said 'oh but you'll get more of a tan that way, that's how everyone wears them!' :rolleyes:

jellie

G86 wrote: »

I find La Senza quite good for DD+ sizes. I'd the same problem with Dunnes, especially trying to find a decent bikini, I remember trying one on that barely covered anything and the chick in there said 'oh but you'll get more of a tan that way, that's how everyone wears them!' :rolleyes:

yeah i like la senza too, i buy most of my nice stuff in there. they go up to 38F i think. they have good offers if you keep an eye out, they do 2 for 25/30 a lot.

neuro-praxis

Penney's now do a very cheap range of lingerie with larger sizes all round, band and cup, and they're pretty too. Shellyboo, I can't remember but I think the matching knickers went from 16-26 or something. Give them a go.

LivingDeadGirl

34D here so I never really have trouble getting bras to fit me. Maybe this is an odd complaint, but I find it difficult to find a bra that gives me the shape that I want(no I'm not looking to appear as having larger cleavage, no padded bras here ), a nice rounded shape where my breasts sit in the right position and look good. Am I making any sense? Like for example I found that bras in the States seemed to give the shape I wanted more, Maidenform was the best shop ever for underwear! But even the bras that I got in Hot Topic gave the shape I wanted. I still wear the bras I bought there all the time and tend to leave my other ones at the back of the drawer. Maybe it's just a strange coincidence? I don't know....

Nuggles

I'm a 38DD, and can never find a bra in that size in penneys or dunnes that's actually pretty. They might have a few, but most of them look like granny bras.

I've found nice ones in Marks and Spencers, Debenhams, Red Herring.

neuro-praxis

Granny bras in Penney's? All my Penney's bras would be a sort of burlesque style - all satin and lace in blacks, reds, pinks etc. I have never found a practical bra in Penney's. That's what M&S is for!

Nuggles

I mean bras in bigger sizes. Penneys don't do them, biggest ever seen in there was a 36D. And that was quite a bit granny style.

heavymetalrock

thanks girls for all your help, i think i will go to M&S for them:).

foxy06

Got 36 EE in Penneys and its fairly comfy and supprtive. Hubby says it's fairly pretty too.

LimeFruitGum

E-cup friend of mine swears by figleaves.com. I'm a 40D and I'd be lost without M&S or Debenhams.

@LivingDeadGirl - what kind of bra styles are you going for? I find balcony/balconette bras are often very flattering, but it all depends on how the manufacturer and overall fit

LivingDeadGirl

LimeFruitGum wrote: »

@LivingDeadGirl - what kind of bra styles are you going for? I find balcony/balconette bras are often very flattering, but it all depends on how the manufacturer and overall fit

I don't care too much about the style really(I presume you mean what the bra is like in aesthetic terms), although I do hate white Shape is what's most important for me. Hmmm I've never heard of them, I'll look them up

Novella

Dunnes Stores bras are sh*it anyway! Penney's on Henry St definitely has pretty bras in bigger sizes 'cause I saw a really nice one in there last week but it didn't come in smaller sizes! Damn having small boobs! Plus M&S do bigger sized bras and they used to cost more 'cause they were bigger but now they don't anymore, I heard it on the radio haha

rainbow kirby

foxy06 wrote: »

Got 36 EE in Penneys and its fairly comfy and supprtive. Hubby says it's fairly pretty too.

I actually find I have to go up a cup size in Penneys bras sometimes and they still end up looking crap.

*curses boobage*

heavymetalrock

do pennys in newbridge do sizes for 32 G? do u know?

Novella

heavymetalrock wrote: »

do pennys in newbridge do sizes for G? do u know?

They do indeed Saw 'em in there last week!

heavymetalrock

thanks for that.:):):)

jwt22

I'm always having trouble getting bigger bras. I'm a 34-36 G.
Best I've found is Bravissimo.
Brastop is good aswell, and littlewoods online.
Debenhams, but can be kind of expensive but if you keep an eye out, you can get nice ones that are reduced.

The thing that kills me is the price, nearly all mine cost €25-€30 or more each.

Hence the reason I dont even own 1 white bra, they go grey too quickly! Pink, purple, red, any colour you could think of!

I do, however, have a strapless nude one (when I HAVE to go strapless - usually need all the support I can get ) that has kind of fitted cups but it looks way bigger than my others.....showed it to my friend.....she laughed till tears came out of her eyes and put it on her head as a helmet, then her knees as knee-caps....with friends like that....:rolleyes:

shellyboo

jwt22 wrote: »

I do, however, have a strapless nude one (when I HAVE to go strapless - usually need all the support I can get ) that has kind of fitted cups but it looks way bigger than my others.....showed it to my friend.....she laughed till tears came out of her eyes and put it on her head as a helmet, then her knees as knee-caps....with friends like that....:rolleyes:

Yup, the strapless ones always look like monstrosities. And do indeed fit over your head. Funny!

neuro-praxis

Nuggles wrote: »

I mean bras in bigger sizes. Penneys don't do them, biggest ever seen in there was a 36D. And that was quite a bit granny style.

No, you are wrong there. Penney's have a range that goes to about a 42G or something.

Lockstep

I've worked in a few chain store clothes shops (some of which were mentioned in this thread) and occasionally had to work in the lingerie section. The reason they don't stock large sizes is the same they don't stock really small ones; they only want to stock what will sell.

Most chain stores sell stuff that is cheaper than more specialist shops, this involves trying to get the gear in and sold as quickly as possible. Most women tend to be less that DD so buying bras in that size isn't a good business plan for them;
Not enough women would be buying them so they would have to order in small numbers of them, this isn't a great idea as they rely on buying in bulk to keep costs down. Buying them in bulk (which would be needed to sell them cheaply) would just have them taking up shelf space when something that will sell quicker could be put out instead.

There isn't a conspiracy theory, like most things, it just comes down to profit.

mental07

I ordered underwear off this site yesterday. The stuff looks good and is affordable. Looking forward to the delivery

iguana

kickoutthejams wrote: »

Most women tend to be less that DD so buying bras in that size isn't a good business plan for them;

Actually current research shows that in the UK, home to most high street stores, the average bra size has risen to 34DD or a 36C depending on which research you look at. That would place the demand for a DD bra every bit as high as a B cup.

Modern retail is a hell of a lot more sophisticated than - get in what will sell and sell it. If that was the case there wouldn't be designer wear vs high street vs supermarket wear. Branding is the driving force of nearly all retail at present, it probably won't always continue to be. Most high street stores are owned by very few retail groups, Arcadia being the biggest. And they use their myriad of stores to be able to present different options in each store, but service the entire market at the same time. This means that they can tailor image and pricing to each individual market.

Consider the recent M&S bra pricing debacle. They wanted to profit from the growing numbers of larger breasted women so they launched a range of larger sizes. They decided to charge more for their larger bras, siting higher manufacturing costs. But this was a total PR disaster which they had to embarrassingly climb down on. In the same vein any store which decides to charge more for a size 16 dress than they charge for an identical size 8 dress, would also meet huge opposition and lose custom. But when a large retail group owns both Miss Selfridges and Evans, they can reach both markets while charging more in Evans without having a PR disaster as most people don't make the Arcadia connection.

Lockstep

iguana wrote: »

Actually current research shows that in the UK, home to most high street stores, the average bra size has risen to 34DD or a 36C depending on which research you look at. That would place the demand for a DD bra every bit as high as a B cup.

Did a quick google and found pretty conflicting research. Some claim that the average size in Ireland is a 34B, others claim it's higher etc.

iguana wrote: »

Modern retail is a hell of a lot more sophisticated than - get in what will sell and sell it. If that was the case there wouldn't be designer wear vs high street vs supermarket wear.

What it comes down to is profit (given that I worked in chain store retail, what took place there was what you outlined about); this can be done through economies of scale (as is done through Penneys) or for going for a more expensive model and selling in smaller quantities. Both are capable of working, but when you are attempting to keep costs low you tend to rely on buy in bulk/sell fast to increase turnover.
A key factor behind designer/high street/supermarket is competition; not everyone will be able to afford designer labels so someone will always be willing to go for a mass market.

iguana wrote: »

Branding is the driving force of nearly all retail at present, it probably won't always continue to be. Most high street stores are owned by very few retail groups, Arcadia being the biggest. And they use their myriad of stores to be able to present different options in each store, but service the entire market at the same time. This means that they can tailor image and pricing to each individual market.

I disagree; they do not attempt to present different options but to go for different markets. Some people will go for what is cheap, others will go for something
Again, it's driving force is profit and by catering to different types of demand they can
I disagree that high street retailers attempt to set trends; unless they are going for a pricier clientele, they will sell what they feel the public want. I

iguana wrote: »

Consider the recent M&S bra pricing debacle. They wanted to profit from the growing numbers of larger breasted women so they launched a range of larger sizes. They decided to charge more for their larger bras, siting higher manufacturing costs. But this was a total PR disaster which they had to embarrassingly climb down on. In the same vein any store which decides to charge more for a size 16 dress than they charge for an identical size 8 dress, would also meet huge opposition and lose custom. But when a large retail group owns both Miss Selfridges and Evans, they can reach both markets while charging more in Evans without having a PR disaster as most people don't make the Arcadia connection.

Again, this comes downt to supply and demand. M&S is more expensive than say, Penneys so they don't need to rely on rapid sales and were not the type of store which I was referring to in my post.
They attempt to supply to a different category of shoppers so they are able to sell larger bra sizes.
FOr a group like Primark/Penneys to attempt to sell extremely large/small sizes just wouldn't make sense for their target market.

iguana

kickoutthejams wrote: »

FOr a group like Primark/Penneys to attempt to sell extremely large/small sizes just wouldn't make sense for their target market.

But Penneys do sell a range of large sized bras.

I've spent years working in charity retail, on the high end scale in London and have had face to face dealings with the CEOs and other assorted bigwigs of the companies behind the majority of the stores on the high street. From having to make presentations to them, to having them explain their practices and decision making to me as sometimes they are on the boards of the charities I've worked for and other times they are donating their time to us. I've also needed to know this stuff for when I dealt with both the public and the press.

Before I worked in charity I used to be involved with some of the financing for larger store groups like Arcadia, Harrods and House of Fraser, so I'm not an expert, but I do know a fair bit about their internal workings.

Lockstep

iguana wrote: »

But Penneys do sell a range of large sized bras.

I never said they didn't, but sub DD ones are what they focus on, they sell larger than this but nothing gigagntic. anything massive isn't sold due to it not being good economics.

Businesses have one sole raison d'étre; profit. How this is achieved differs depending on the target market.

trishasaffron

Going back to the poster who was looking for a good shape. I find Fantasie bras great. the fancy ones (BT, House of Fraser) are not good under t-shirts though but there is a great t-shirt balconette bra in fantasie that gives great (unpadded) support and shape - I've only seen it once or twice in the shops so I get it online on Figleaves.com. Its the best one ever and the good thing about Figleaves is that they send the product by ordinary post and usually wrap it up small so that it will fit in the post box. I just ordered some stuff off maidenform (4 boys short panties) and the next day got a note in the door from DHL. Mad to have DHL deliver 4 small pair of panties! I may never get them as am never at home and I am not having underwear delivered to the office!!!!!

kelle

I'm a weird size, 38AA! Only Marks does 38A, other stores assume you can't possibly be an A cup once your chest size exceeds 34.

lizzyvera

I'm an odd size since I'm small boned but chubby, and hardly anywhere does my size. The shoulder straps are always too big and slide down constantly, and most 32 backs are too big, although I even measured myself and my ribs are 27'' so I should be a 32 back. I really need the support though!
I'm a normal clothes size too, I would imagine a LOT of people are my size and just buy a 34C in Penney's because it's cheap.

Amy33

I've got the opposite problem, I'm only 34AA which they don't stock either, I have to go Brown Thomas.