Cheap Tyres

dabry ogill

I got 2 tyres for my focus two weeks ago at whitehouse pub sunday market.
They are remoulds at €22 each great value. Did my NCT last week and passed.

They also fit them for €5 a tyre.

bazwaldo

Dodgy dodge post and dodgy tyres. I wouldn't buy and would not recommend buying tyres from a market.

You can't risk the safety of yourself, passengers and other road users!

Onikage

Remoulds? No.

stevej

what kind of money would you save?

CuppaCocoa

Where is the Whitehouse Pub?

Moanin

lilybarlean wrote: »

Where is the Whitehouse Pub?

I know there's a pub by that name between Ashbourne & Finglas on the old N2

CuppaCocoa

Yea, know it. Just wondering if the old Ashbourne Market has re-opened?

Stealdo

dabry ogill wrote: »

I got 2 tyres for my focus two weeks ago at whitehouse pub sunday market.
They are remoulds at €22 each great value. Did my NCT last week and passed.

They also fit them for €5 a tyre.

For just €22 you can have a blowout at 70MPH and kill or maim not just your family but someone else's too?

the NCT only checks tyre thread depth, it would not show any issues with the integrity of the rubber.

RobertFoster

lilybarlean wrote: »

Yea, know it. Just wondering if the old Ashbourne Market has re-opened?

It started back a couple of weeks ago. Passing by, there weren't huge crowds.

The way remoulds are constructed means they are not as safe or reliable as new tyres. They may be cheaper but the tread is know to have an awful habit of falling apart from the main body of the tyre caused by heat if you drive at high speeds for long periods of time ie. motorway driving. They won't last as long as proper tyres and they don't grip as well.

If you dont value your car, your life or anyone you're likely to crash into then they're OK :rolleyes:

I would never buy remoulds, you get what you pay for so be warned.

green123

stevej wrote: »

what kind of money would you save?

just to answer your question - cheapest new tyres are probably about 50 or 60.

TheDriver

at end of the day, if OP is happy with it. fair enough but you really do get what you pay for, no bargains on remoulds and are grand for granny pottering around town at 20mph but like another poster said, serious speed would be unreliable on them.

kcb

Moanin wrote: »

I know there's a pub by that name between Ashbourne & Finglas on the old N2

Where is Ashbourne or Finglas?

6ix

kcb wrote: »

Where is Ashbourne or Finglas?

Ashbourne is in Meath, Finglas is in Dublin.

Tipsy Mac

I'm afraid getting remoulds is like putting a 2nd hand pacemaker in, while they do the job they are just not dependable.

Clareman

For what it's worth I might as well chime in with my opinion

As was already said, if you don't drive fast, or far, or anyone important, remoulds would be fine, you might be fine, it's up to you. Would you be willing to use recycled condoms? I'm sure they're fine, but might breakup at high speed taking you, your passenger and any passer-bys out

I got 4 new tyres put on my car today, I got Pirelli's, €85 each, this was fitted, balanced and tracking done, where I got them done (Limerick Tyre Center) also did cheaper tyres starting at €45 (fitted), I can't recommend them enough, really nice guys and a quick service

ninty

I remember back in the bad old days most people could only afford remoulds and most people did not have a problem with them, now that we are heading that way again maybe thats all we will soon be only able to afford because we will only be using the car for short trips.After the next budget we will only be too happy with posts like this.

Clareman

In the old days people were driving bangers, there was no tests to ensure you car was road worthey, there wasn't that many dual carriage ways in the country so people weren't driving that fast.

If you want to compare, compare, but don't compare apples to oranges

Hatchet

I dont care what anyone says.... tyres are the only thing keeping you on the road. I bought cheap New cheap tyres when I first started driving and lost it in the rain (not going fast, just aqua - planed) . Never again...... I can just imagine what remoulds would be like.

ninty

not comparing anything with anything, just saying that when people have very little money safety is not their main priority or maybe they just drive more carefully with what they can afford.As far as i know the NCT test allows remoulds so wheres the problem.

gerryo

I honestly thought remoulds had gone the way of the Dodo - seriously.

Haven't seen them advertised anywhere recently (mainstream media) & the last time
I remember was about 30 + years ago.

Roads were $hite back then, might have made sense to run these.
Potholes, sharp stones, glass, etc were daily hazards so good tyres wouldn't last
as long as they do now.

Plus, cars just weren't as fast, & used to break down regularly on long journeys.
You just could not push them as hard as modern ones, so maybe remoulds
made sense then.

What will we see the return of next - CRT refurbs? :rolleyes:

Daviator

The amount of people that spout total dribble when you mention remoulds.

There is very little wrong with remoulds. After all most Truck companies use them, most bus companies use them, some taxi men use them and all airlines all over the world use them.

So it would be very hard for any of us to avoid using remould tyres unless you get the train or boat everywhere.

loyatemu

likewise I hadn't heard of anyway selling remoulds for a number of years - FWIW this is what the UK safety police have to say about them:

http://www.rospa.com/roadsafety/advice/motorvehicles/tyres.htm#Retreaded
In the majority of cases, retreaded tyres perform satisfactorily provided the manufacturer’s guidance about maximum vehicle loadings and maximum speeds is followed. Like all tyres; overloading, sustained high speeds, and under or over-inflation all contribute to increased tyre wear and/or premature failure.

Never buy a retreaded tyre without the “e” mark.

Johnny Storm

I think I know a song about that : "fit Kilkenny remoulds - rule the roaaaad"

Cionád

Daviator wrote: »

The amount of people that spout total dribble when you mention remoulds.

There is very little wrong with remoulds. After all most Truck companies use them, most bus companies use them, some taxi men use them and all airlines all over the world use them.

So it would be very hard for any of us to avoid using remould tyres unless you get the train or boat everywhere.

You have two posts, both in defense of remoulds, and you registered yesterday... do you sell remoulds?

Biro

Planes don't have to stop in a hurry for kids running out in front of them, so remoulds are fine for those. And I can be safe in my assumption that Airbus and Boeing don't shop for tyres at the local market.
€22 remoulds are not a bargain and should not be in this forum. NCT centres don't care about the quality of the rubber, they're only supposed to check the thread depth and that the tyre conforms to the European standard, which is a pathetic standard if you ask me.
Saving money? Sure sell the seatbelts too, and don't bother buying a car seat for the baby, that'll save you some more. Don't bother replacing the brake pads when they're worn either, save that money too. Sure with the bald cheap plastic tyres you have on brakes will do you feck all good anyway!

Daviator

Biro wrote: »

Planes don't have to stop in a hurry for kids running out in front of them, so remoulds are fine for those. And I can be safe in my assumption that Airbus and Boeing don't shop for tyres at the local market.
€22 remoulds are not a bargain and should not be in this forum. NCT centres don't care about the quality of the rubber, they're only supposed to check the thread depth and that the tyre conforms to the European standard, which is a pathetic standard if you ask me.
Saving money? Sure sell the seatbelts too, and don't bother buying a car seat for the baby, that'll save you some more. Don't bother replacing the brake pads when they're worn either, save that money too. Sure with the bald cheap plastic tyres you have on brakes will do you feck all good anyway!

Planes do have to stop quickly before they run off the runway. look i am not saying all remould tyres are the bees knees just like all new tyres are not the bees knees either. But people come on here and just point blank say all remould tyres are rubbish is just plain wrong and dishonest. You can get a good set of remould tyres out there for your car.

Alot of people have been brainwashed in this celtic tiger into thinking cheap price = bad and dear price = good. No wonder prices in this country are so high.

I would also like to state i do not profit in anyway what so ever from the sale of tyres.

stevej

green123 wrote: »

just to answer your question - cheapest new tyres are probably about 50 or 60.

thanks, the saving hardly makes it even worth considering when weighed up against the safety issue

Biro

Daviator wrote: »

Planes do have to stop quickly before they run off the runway. look i am not saying all remould tyres are the bees knees just like all new tyres are not the bees knees either. But people come on here and just point blank say all remould tyres are rubbish is just plain wrong and dishonest. You can get a good set of remould tyres out there for your car.

Alot of people have been brainwashed in this celtic tiger into thinking cheap price = bad and dear price = good. No wonder prices in this country are so high.

I would also like to state i do not profit in anyway what so ever from the sale of tyres.

Ever heard of reverse thrust? Anyway, do you really think that some €22 tyres at a market are manufactured to the same level as an aircraft tyre?
I don't think cheap price = bad. I know what I'm talking about when it comes to grip levels and how greatly they can vary, and grip is paramount on Irish roads with all the hazards. If you think grip doesn't vary much between tyres then you're greatly mistaken.

Daviator

Biro wrote: »

Ever heard of reverse thrust? Anyway, do you really think that some €22 tyres at a market are manufactured to the same level as an aircraft tyre?
I don't think cheap price = bad. I know what I'm talking about when it comes to grip levels and how greatly they can vary, and grip is paramount on Irish roads with all the hazards. If you think grip doesn't vary much between tyres then you're greatly mistaken.

Oh I am very much aware of reverse thrust in fact more than most. As I have said before its just airliners but buses and trucks etc that use remould tyres. I dont know what the tyres are like this chap is selling in the market maybe they are good maybe they arent. I am not going to vouch for them.

But what really irritates me is people just come on here and say all remould tyres are bad. These are probably the same easily led people who believe 95% of all uk import cars are clocked or written off.

ninty

Can anybody point me in the direction of some official facts that remoulds are dangerous and not just what they think.I have seen only one official reference by Loyatemu that they operate satisfactorily in most cases.

Biro

Daviator wrote: »

Oh I am very much aware of reverse thrust in fact more than most. As I have said before its just airliners but buses and trucks etc that use remould tyres. I dont know what the tyres are like this chap is selling in the market maybe they are good maybe they arent. I am not going to vouch for them.

But what really irritates me is people just come on here and say all remould tyres are bad. These are probably the same easily led people who believe 95% of all uk import cars are clocked or written off.

Not all remoulds are bad, but it is not possible to get a good tyre for €22 and I will prove it beyond all doubt if you'd like to bring me some. There are many impartial tests done on different tyres. Speed rating and thread design are only a tiny part of the picture. In particular speed rating is almost useless in judging a tyre. The most important thing is rubber compound. That's what makes the biggest difference in grip levels. If you've no grip, what's the point?

dl

Ya get what ya pays for... best of luck with them & safe driving!

slavedave

Just to give you a reference point. I paid €65 per tyre for Pirelli (known & respected) brand at Dave McCann's Tyres in Coolmine this morning. 4 Tyres +balancing +computer alignment on all 4 wheels of my Honda FR-V cost 320 euro. Much more expensive that €88 euro for 4 remoulds I admit, but I was prepared to pay the cost for piece of mind. I used to buy remoulds all the time on my early cars and never had an issue with any of them (just wouldn't do it now there are 4 kids and SWMBO involved in travelling with me).

ani_mal

yet, buying tyres from Uk on ebay, even counting in the shipment.. is cheaper
I went to check Dunlops avaibility, and I found out that garage get them for 45Euro each, but sell for 75 Euro each. So then we went for polish tyres Debica 165/70/13, and I am happy with them, no problems at all.

skywalker_208

dabry ogill wrote: »

I got 2 tyres for my focus two weeks ago at whitehouse pub sunday market.
They are remoulds.

Remoulds are not tyres...
Used to work in a Tyreshop. We would'nt fit remoulds to cars, simple as.
Car trailers are all they are fit for.
Certainly not fit for a Ford Focus with 14 or 15" rims and (possibly) a 1.8 turbo diesel engine or at least a 1.4 petrol

devil-80

I got my Firestone for 90 pounds (2 tyres+fitting+balancing) in Enniskillen at Modern Tyres.

Donnelly117

Daviator wrote: »

So it would be very hard for any of us to avoid using remould tyres unless you get the train or boat everywhere.

drive? without remoulds

Iron Hide

Daviator wrote: »

The amount of people that spout total dribble when you mention remoulds.

There is very little wrong with remoulds. After all most Truck companies use them, most bus companies use them, some taxi men use them and all airlines all over the world use them.

So it would be very hard for any of us to avoid using remould tyres unless you get the train or boat everywhere.

I'd love to see you prove any of what you just said.

Pirelli, Bridgestone, Michelin, Continental, Dunlop, Firestone, BF Goodrich, Goodyear, Toyo, Kumho, Yokohama, Avon, Hankook, Cooper Tires...

The above list would be quite a good way to not use remould tyres

johnnyrotten

Daviator wrote: »

The amount of people that spout total dribble when you mention remoulds.

There is very little wrong with remoulds. After all most Truck companies use them, most bus companies use them, some taxi men use them and all airlines all over the world use them.

So it would be very hard for any of us to avoid using remould tyres unless you get the train or boat everywhere.

Yeah and you often see the remould part pf a truck tyre on the side of the road. Not so bad on a 18 wheeler - bad on 4 wheels

richardw001

Only comment that I would have is that I would be dubious about buying something like this unless you are 100% sure on what you are buying and that at the very least it is a legit remould ( I wouldnt use them myself at all - to be honest).

Anyway from what I know you could end up invalidating your insurance in the case of an accident - not to mention risk of accident itself.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2008/en/si/0118.html

keithclancy

Impossible to know if the sidewalls been damaged with remoulds.

projectgtr

toyo T1Rs are £29 a tyre brand new!! why would anyone pay 22 for a remould

tommycahir

projectgtr wrote: »

toyo T1Rs are £29 a tyre brand new!! why would anyone pay 22 for a remould

Just wondering where you seen the above tyres at that price?

milltown

Remoulds are to tyres what Quinn are to insurance.
Just enough to be legal and get you through any necessary checks but you wouldn't want to be depending on them when you really need them.

Over the 20-40k miles you'll drive on a set of tyres, the actual cost of them is neglible when you consider fuel, tax, servicing, insurance, depreciation etc. As has been said, tyres are ALL that's keeping you in contact with the road, don't skimp on them.

If you decide that your car/driving/budget dictates that remoulds are for you, make sure you get into the habit of checking your tyre pressures on a weekly basis (although I'd wager that the type of motorist that buys remoulds at a market and thinks it's a good idea is precisely the type who wouldn't even look at his tyres unless one was flat or he had an NCT coming up). Heat is the usual cause of failure of remoulds, causing the remoulded tread to seperate from the carcass. The number one cause of excessive heat in a tyre is under/overinflation.

But please at least buy them from a proper tyre place that will have a reputation that they care about, not some no-name at a market that you might never see again.

projectgtr

tommycahir wrote: »

Just wondering where you seen the above tyres at that price?

i bought them from camskill.co.uk delivered next day some seriously cheap good quality tyres there

Moonbeam

I found quick fit in Newry cheaper then eiretyres and camskill fitted and lots cheaper then anyone local.
http://www.kwik-fit.com/

longhalloween

bazwaldo wrote: »

Dodgy dodge post and dodgy tyres. I wouldn't buy and would not recommend buying tyres from a market.

You can't risk the safety of yourself, passengers and other road users!

Id be thinkin the same. One of my friends works in a garage and he says the amount of sh*te tyres coming from the north or over the internet is shockin. At the end of the day most places sell and fit tyres for around 50 quid a pop, so it makes more sense to buy them local.

At least you have someone to blame if it ever goes tits up instead of blaming yourself.

On another note, the new NCT regulations coming in April stipulate that the tyres on your car must match the cars top speed and other stuff like that, so remoulds and dodgy stuff might fail the test.

clearblue

Iron Hide wrote: »

I'd love to see you prove any of what you just said.

Pirelli, Bridgestone, Michelin, Continental, Dunlop, Firestone, BF Goodrich, Goodyear, Toyo, Kumho, Yokohama, Avon, Hankook, Cooper Tires...

The above list would be quite a good way to not use remould tyres

most of the above named tyre manufactures are involved in the production of rubber compounds for the retreading process wheter it be for the cold cure method or the hot cure method which all but mimics the production of a new tyre. they are also buying up retreading operations all over the world because this is the way there business is heading (rubber prices/ availability along with the fact that these tyre are as good as new ones in every report ever undertaked since the modernization of the retreading process

vibe666

clearblue wrote: »

most of the above named tyre manufactures are involved in the production of rubber compounds for the retreading process wheter it be for the cold cure method or the hot cure method which all but mimics the production of a new tyre. they are also buying up retreading operations all over the world because this is the way there business is heading (rubber prices/ availability along with the fact that these tyre are as good as new ones in every report ever undertaked since the modernization of the retreading process

that's great, thanks for dragging up a 10 month old thread to let us know. :rolleyes:

also, why are you named after a pregnancy test?