Engineering Management

dog_pig

What's the Engineering Management course in Trinity like? How different is it from the regular engineering course? Is it basically engineering plus management modules?

C.D.

See here Not as well written or structured as I'd like but should be useful- feel free to PM me with any questions, I'm a final year student in that course.

dog_pig

Thanks for the insight; very helpful!

imaleper

ah sure they are all messers in that course... its basically a mechanical and manufacturing degree with management! Its different because you can't choose to specialise...

C.D.

imaleper wrote: »

ah sure they are all messers in that course... its basically a mechanical and manufacturing degree with management! Its different because you can't choose to specialise...

There are more "messers" than in the other TCD engineering courses- this is mostly due to the lower points requirements. This is not to say it is easier (it requires considerably more continuous work due to the high CA component (this is a god/bad thing depending on whether you like to leave it till the exams or not)) and that there are not intelligent/hard-working students in the course (e.g. I got an overall first for 3rd year).

With regards to specialisation that is rubbish- I'm going into final year and we have as much choice (arguably more due to the diverse nature of subjects choices) as the mainstream Mechanical Engineers. For example, I've chosen to do Bio-mechanics. Bio-Engineering, Thermodynamics, Software Labs and a few others, but you can do things like Vibrations, Acoustics, Management Science in Practice, Fuild Mechanics, Managing New Product Introduction etc.

I'd be wary of people offering advice who might not have first hand experience of the course or indeed the other Engineering courses in TCD.

Gileadi

By choices i presume he means he cant change into different streams (eg Civil, Computers, Electrical), and aren't the choices you mention are open to all Mech students so maybe don't try to influence the OP incorrectly please, each stream will offer a range of choices in final year

C.D.

Gileadi wrote: »

By choices i presume he means he cant change into different streams (eg Civil, Computers, Electrical), and aren't the choices you mention are open to all Mech students so maybe don't try to influence the OP incorrectly please, each stream will offer a range of choices in final year

Nope, not all of our options are available to the Mechs, we have subject choices they don't have and vice versa.

imaleper wrote:

its basically a mechanical and manufacturing degree with management! Its different because you can't choose to specialise...

I read that to mean it is like the Mech/Manuf. BAI degree but with no choice.. which it is not. In the link provided to the OP I already mentioned that there is no choice till final year and that you do not get the "general engineering" experience and choice offered to the BAI, but to further re-iterate you do not do general engineering and choose a stream for the Bsc.

enda1

To be honest its nonsense.

Its some con of a course the mech department devised to increase funding.
As it is the engineering degree is very limited in Ireland with only a 4 year non-masters course (I guess this is changing around now though) and watering that down any more by pissing around with quasi-management skills doesn't help anyone.

Good luck though.

C.D.

enda1 wrote: »

To be honest its nonsense.

Its some con of a course the mech department devised to increase funding.
As it is the engineering degree is very limited in Ireland with only a 4 year non-masters course (I guess this is changing around now though) and watering that down any more by pissing around with quasi-management skills doesn't help anyone.

Good luck though.

Perhaps when you did the BAI that might have been the case. We do 65-80% of the same subjects as the Mechs do each year and I'm assuming you don't consider them "nonsense". I would agree some of the subjects are radically different to what you'd expect from the Department of Engineering and indeed some of those subjects are rubbish- but so is the management course taught to all the BAI students. If you wish, you can avoid the "nonsense" subject in final year and focus on things like programming modules instead.

imaleper

C.D. wrote: »

we have as much choice (arguably more due to the diverse nature of subjects choices) as the mainstream Mechanical Engineers. For example, I've chosen to do Bio-mechanics. Bio-Engineering, Thermodynamics, Software Labs and a few others, but you can do things like Vibrations, Acoustics, Management Science in Practice, Fuild Mechanics, Managing New Product Introduction etc.

I'd be wary of people offering advice who might not have first hand experience of the course or indeed the other Engineering courses in TCD.

But no thats not more choice... Its roughly the same as someone who has chosen to specialise in mech through the General course. But WAY less choice than someone who is in the general course who has yet chosen what stream to specialise in!

For instance, on my CAO general was first with MEMs second, because I thought: "Even doing general, I'll definetly specialise in mechanical engineering! So if I dont get the points it wont hinder my knowledge."

Wrong!

Computer and Electronic was my way forward! But I would never have seen my way without the broader spectrum of the general course.

I'd be wary of giving advice as misleading as that. Particularly for something as important and equally unimportant as the C.A.O.

C.D.

imaleper wrote: »

But no thats not more choice... Its roughly the same as someone who has chosen to specialise in mech

C.D. wrote: »

we have as much choice (arguably more due to the diverse nature of subjects choices) as the mainstream Mechanical Engineers.

I'm not sure if you are trying to quote me out of context or just not reading my posts. The phrase "mainstream Mechanical Engineers" is quite unambiguous in that it most definitely refers to the Mechanical Engineers.. i.e people who have already made their choice.

imaleper

ah ye, sure but the thing he/she asked was what was different from that to the general one... whatever