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.22 ammunition for hunting

  • 29-06-2009 8:05am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 429 ✭✭


    Which .22 ammunition do you prefer using for hunting? Subsonic, standard or high velocity? :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    For Rabbits I use Winchester HP Subs exclusively.
    Any HV rounds are very noisy and not as accurate IME.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,072 ✭✭✭clivej


    CJhaughey wrote: »
    For Rabbits I use Winchester HP Subs exclusively.
    Any HV rounds are very noisy and not as accurate IME.

    + 1 as above

    I'm using Eley standard and Lapua Super subs and a SAK mod on the end to keep the noise down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 429 ✭✭Thomasofmel


    clivej wrote: »
    + 1 as above

    I'm using Eley standard and Lapua Super subs and a SAK mod on the end to keep the noise down.

    Thanks - Where do you get the Lapua Super sub's?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,072 ✭✭✭clivej


    Thanks - Where do you get the Lapua Super sub's?


    Paul O'Hallaran in Drangan @sub€;40 10 boxes and Stakelums in Thurles were to get some in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 429 ✭✭Thomasofmel


    I just learned that ammunition cannot be posted - does anybody know where to get .22 Lapua Super Club's in the NE?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,072 ✭✭✭clivej


    I just learned that ammunition cannot be posted - does anybody know where to get .22 Lapua Super Club's in the NE?
    Duffy's in Galway used to send ammo and rifles to people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 429 ✭✭Thomasofmel


    yes - just checked - €4.77 per 50 and €10 for postage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 782 ✭✭✭riflehunter77




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭thelurcher


    Winchester HP Subs for me too.

    Try out a box of the Eley subs before you but a case of them - over priced in most places - also they're a very dirty round and they literally stink :rolleyes:
    If you have a CZ you'll find it hard to close the bolt on them too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 460 ✭✭milkerman


    I LOVE the smell of a Eley subs! and I find they work perfectly in my CZ - better than the Winchesters. But then you pays your money and you takes your pick.
    Have to say though that the .22 has been playing second fiddle to the 17HMR recently. I cant believe the ranges that I have clattered rabbits at in the last week.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭CZ 453


    Eley subs for everything bar targets(Knocking fox with these in one shot).I use Eley sports for target.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    Bunnies I use Eley subs in my CZ 452 Varmint. It's only money :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭thelurcher


    milkerman wrote: »
    I LOVE the smell of a Eley subs!
    Good for you milkerman :rolleyes:

    A lot of CZ owners have trouble with the eley subs - it's certainly not just me. I found follow up shots awkward when you have to jam the bolt closed.

    It came down to common sense for me in the end - winchester subs shoot just as well with none of the drawbacks.

    To the OP - best to try everything you can get your hands on.


    shezer - Shooting fox with .22 subs..........not very sporting is it - unless it's at the end of a dig as you pull the terrier out ;)
    No doubt you'll reply that you've never had a runner :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    thelurcher wrote: »
    .............Shooting fox with .22 subs..........not very sporting is it - unless it's at the end of a dig as you pull the terrier out ;)
    No doubt you'll reply that you've never had a runner :rolleyes:

    It is sporting if the shooter is consistantly able to kill foxes cleanly with the vast majority (say 95%+) of the shots taken.

    I personally do not consider sending a terrier into a fox den then digging out the fox to be sporting but I wouldn't tell you your not a sportsman for doing it.

    I believe in each to their own, as long as it's legal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭elius


    Just why where on topic. what would one recommend for .22wmr??? Target shooting, Crows and bunnys..........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭ayapatrick


    thelurcher wrote: »
    Winchester HP Subs for me too.

    Try out a box of the Eley subs before you but a case of them - over priced in most places - also they're a very dirty round and they literally stink :rolleyes:
    If you have a CZ you'll find it hard to close the bolt on them too.
    found that i had to jam the bolt forward with cci subs aswel, i think they seen me comin aswel - €16 for 100.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    elius wrote: »
    Just why where on topic. what would one recommend for .22wmr??? Target shooting, Crows and bunnys..........

    It is slightly more epensive for ammo than 22lr, effective range is approx 125+ yards depending on your ability, louder (no subsonic ammo available) than 22lr but is a good all round hunting and casual target round.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    ayapatrick wrote: »
    found that i had to jam the bolt forward with cci subs aswel, i think they seen me comin aswel - €16 for 100.

    CCI ammo gives trouble in a lot of actions :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭elius


    It is slightly more epensive for ammo than 22lr, effective range is approx 125+ yards depending on your ability, louder (no subsonic ammo available) than 22lr but is a good all round hunting and casual target round.



    Has anyone any experaince with these HORNADY 22 WMR 30 GR V-MAX.. Haven't got the rifle yet still waiting for my liecence to get back just trying to pic an idea out as to what they peoples general recomendations are... Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    We had CCI subs before and you couldn't close the bolts on them. Headspacing is a major issue, especially if you have a tight match chamber.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭sfakiaman


    CCI ammo gives trouble in a lot of actions :(

    I've often had trouble extracting live rounds of CCI in my CZ also it groups like 00 buck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭ayapatrick


    sfakiaman wrote: »
    I've often had trouble extracting live rounds of CCI in my CZ also it groups like 00 buck.
    i found the opposite with the groups! tightest ive ever shot with 22.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭thelurcher


    It is sporting if the shooter is consistantly able to kill foxes cleanly with the vast majority (say 95%+) of the shots taken.
    .22 subs are not for fox - end of story - don't argue for the sake of arguing - you know it's not right.
    Inside what range do you recon you'll get your preferred 95% - how many fox a year will you call in that close.

    This is a stupid discussion - it's like the arguments on here about deer shooting - even the 6.5 isn't up to it according to most :rolleyes: So will they come on this thread backing me up :p

    I don't shoot foxes for sport - I will shoot the odd one when a farmer absolutely demands it.
    You say terrier work isn't sporting - well the thing even most of the antis have cottoned on to about it is that it has a 100% success rate - no wounded animals. That's not to say we don't have cowboys at it too who unfortunately tarnish the rest of us giving the ignorant a false impression of what the sport entails.

    .22 subs are ideal for humane dispatch on fox size animals and somewhat bigger too IMO.

    Must admit that I had way more problems with CCI in the CZ than the Eley.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 Tom Donnavan


    did any of youes ever try .22 shorts. I know of a back garden of about 30 yards with rabbit problems and was wondering at about 70 ft/lbs would there be any more safety issue than a F.A.C. air rifle.
    These are also called pigeon bullets but i am guessing they would be a bit much for shooting in to trees ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 429 ✭✭Thomasofmel


    Today I was target shooting and compared Remington .22 hollow subs and CCI .22's - shot 50m and 100m - and the Remingtons seemed to stay better / closer together.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 hunter91


    hey guys i heard the win 22 subs are good before but local gunshop says dere impossible to get now where are use gettin em?


  • Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I used Winchester lasers for the first time there recently when out rabitting.

    Decent groups and did the job at the end of the day. I've never used lead rounds on live quarry, is there much of a difference between the hollow points and the lead rounds?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭CZ 453


    thelurcher wrote: »
    Good for you milkerman :rolleyes:

    A lot of CZ owners have trouble with the eley subs - it's certainly not just me. I found follow up shots awkward when you have to jam the bolt closed.

    It came down to common sense for me in the end - winchester subs shoot just as well with none of the drawbacks.

    To the OP - best to try everything you can get your hands on.


    shezer - Shooting fox with .22 subs..........not very sporting is it - unless it's at the end of a dig as you pull the terrier out ;)
    No doubt you'll reply that you've never had a runner :rolleyes:

    I did have runners when i missed;)....although lately when trying to shoot bunnies im convinced im using rubber bullets...:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭coughlan08


    you should never shoot a fox with a .22lr,stick to the rabbits..;)
    it just doesnt have the take down power,even a 177hmr has a better
    take down power than the 22lr,
    thats from experience,
    stick to the 223...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭pajero2005


    thelurcher wrote: »
    .22 subs are not for fox - end of story - don't argue for the sake of arguing - you know it's not right.
    I'm with you on that.
    thelurcher wrote: »
    22 subs are ideal for humane dispatch on fox size animals and somewhat bigger too IMO.
    No, now you done gone and lost me!!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭CZ 453


    Ive been getting fox close enough to take out so far in one shot with sub .22lr.Otherwise i would not use them.The day i hit a fox and it doesnt drop will be the day i stop using my .22 and ill upgrade calibre rifle....Honest i would only call close enough for one shot otherwise i wouldnt take the shot.


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