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Becoming an escort....

  • 28-06-2009 6:23pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    Like many out there at the moment im in dire financial trouble. I have letters coming every day threatening court cases from massive debts I accumulated in college. I am sponging small amounts of money of my parents at the moment to survive. I've done the mabs things but now i just need money.

    I will definalty have a job in September that I secured earlier on in the year which I'm looking forward to starting. However, until then i have approx €1 to my name,am thousands in debt and haven't heared back from any job i've applied to.

    Recently I have been looking up a bit about escort work. The thought of being able to work as an escort gives me a bit of hope to get out of this dire financial mess that I am in.

    I am quite good looking,not a model, but men would definalty be turned on by me. I placed an advert on escort-ireland to see what response,if any, i would get. Within a day I had at least 20 men willing to pay €150 for 30mins of my 'service'.That could have been €3000 that would easily set me up until September keeping the bailiffs off my back.

    I think at first I thought escorting would just mean chatting to the guy a bit and then having sex and thats it. I dont think I would have much of a problem with that. However,looking at other escorts services I see that your expected to do a lot more than just have sex.

    I'm a typical,normal Irish girl. I've had sex with three guys, wouldn't be vastly experienced at all, I'm not a prude though and dont have any moral objection to escorting.


    I think at the moment I'm just weighing up the pros and cons of this type of 'work'. On one hand the money would be fantastic, when there is little hope of any job insight for me until September. It would mean my loans could be cleared and I could save up to do my dream course, social work, the year after next. On the other hand I'm worried about the physical and mental implications this may have on me. The security aspect to me is particularlya frightening aspect.

    Perhaps anyone out there who has had experience either working or using an escort can offer me some insight? Will going down this road be a really bad move? or should I just look at it as a short term solution to make a good bit of cash?

    Thanks :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭JangoFett


    It's a tough choice to make.

    Are you quite strong willed? Do you think you would be ok with doing this? When I was in Oz I read an article about a woman who, to get out of debt, became a prostitute and how she handled it. I know the two are different things but similar.
    Now, the way she tested the waters was by trying it for a day and then after that she decided how she felt. For her it went very well.

    Personally if I could do it I would. But I'm a guy so of course, ya know? But I don't have the looks for it. I'd love to be a stripper, the money is deadly. Ya know like the guy who just goes to 21st's and that kinda thing, savage money.

    I say give it a shot, go on one escort "date" and then see how you feel about it!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    To me, I'd see being an escort as jumping straight into the deep end of the pool. If you're willing to sell your body to get you through this tough time, would you think about being a stripper or lap dancer first? It feels odd for me to advise someone to do that, but the money would be decent, you wouldn't have to have sex with clients, and you'd be surrounded by bouncers.

    As an escort, men are paying top dollar for your services, so you'd want to be extremely sexually adventurous and open-minded. You'd have to do pretty much anything you can think of (anal, BDSM, group sex, maybe scat, etc etc etc). I'm sure you could specify one or two things that you wouldn't do, but there's no way it would be all run-of-the-mill "everyday" sex as it were. Clients will have all sorts of fetishes that you'd have to cater for and everything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    Wow. Are things really that bad that you'd consider having sex for money? I don't want to take the moral high ground because obviously your feelings on prostitution differ from my own. It all just seems so sleazy. Have you actually thought about the reality of what's entailed here? Having sex with total strangers (and pretending you enjoy it) in exchange for money? I personally couldn't do it but I guess I've never been in serious debt like yourself so I don't know what extremes I'd go to.

    But seriously girl, this should be the very, very last option to relieve yourself of debts. I can't recommend alternatives here because as I've said, I've never been in serious debt. An escort is just a fancy word for a prostitute...I can't think of any normal, Irish girl who'd want to be a prostitute. I can imagine the money is fantastic but is that really an incentive to have sex with strangers? I'm putting myself into the shoes of these women and I could imagine my dignity and self-esteem and self-worth would be knocked out of me after a short while. I could never live with myself knowing I made my money this way. I would be totally ashamed of myself. I can imagine a lot of these girls feel an incredible amount of self-loathing...after the sex, money being fired at them like they're pieces of meat. The money would be no compensation for my sense of self.

    Most students leave college with some debt and I'm sure most of them don't consider this. Can you not apply for social benefits to tide you over 'till you get working in September (less than 3 months away) and can start paying back your debts with dignity??

    Can somebody recommend a forum for people in debt on Boards or any alternatives to this option?? :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭valery


    One creep could mess your head up for life, and theres a lot of them attracted to that "scene" . ive had money problems on several occasions throughout my life and you know what ???? ya get through them , so will you.
    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    OP: As everyone said it is entirely up to you. I personally would ask you to think about this for a second. Are you really happy with selling your flesh to strangers? Would you not like to spare your body for someone you truly love rather than a stranger? Some people are comfortable with this notion, some people are not. Leave the money aside from your mind at the minute, think about whether or not you are comfortable about this first, then and only then, think if the money amount is worth the amount of discomfort you will have to endure.

    Good luck to you :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    I don't see a problem with getting paid to do something you enjoy. It's like any other job out there. People get paid to use their bodies and their brains in all sorts of jobs, why is sex any different?

    If you do end up doing it just make sure you screen the men beforehand. Remember, you never HAVE to do it with someone you don't want to.

    It's up to you, and you only. There's nothing wrong with it, imo, so long as you're safe and in control of the situation. It might be awkward to bring up to a friend or family member but try and make sure someone always knows where you are, just in case.

    Ignore people preaching at you. There's nothing wrong with it, just old-fashioned views that don't belong in this day and age. It's your call, not theirs. What they think doesn't matter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    Nobody is preaching at anyone. People are going to differ and have a diversity of views on the topic. That is something to be praised on boards.ie. The decision will be left with the OP after hearing what people have to say about it. Sounds fair to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,560 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    escort wrote: »
    Will going down this road be a really bad move? or should I just look at it as a short term solution to make a good bit of cash?
    At the end of the day, your health (both physical and mental) is your wealth.

    Doing this to get over a short-term financial issue is not the best solution. Try contacting MABS instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Loads of things to consider.

    Will you have a minder? What happens it a client gets rough? What happens if a client doesn't want to pay? Where will you carry out this service?

    Will you feel ok within yourself when your alone? How would you feel if your family/friends found out?

    If you are happy with the answers to these questions. you should give it a shot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,184 ✭✭✭neuro-praxis


    Don't do it. You will only hurt yourself. You're born with no money and you can't bring money with you when you die. The most important thing in life is not being financially secure.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭NFH


    JESUS CHRIST!

    Oh arent we all so open minded about this, for **** sakes. For those of you who have givin such great pearls of wisdom above and arent really advising her against this, would you be giving the same advice to your own daugher.

    I don't know whats more shocking. The fact that there is a "whore" website online that isnt illegal or the fact that the people who have replied to you are taking about this option as if it were some kind of "ok thing".

    Am I wrong in thinking that prostitution is illegal in Ireland.

    Do this and you will regret it for the rest of your life!

    I'm no econimist and I can't tell ya where to get money but for the life of me I know there are other options and for the sake of just 3 months. Everything about escorting or prostitution is wrong. You can analyse it and be as modern thinking about the whole thing as much as you want but it dosent change the nuts and bolts of the matter, its wrong and it will f**k you up. Think about the future, think about keeping this secret form a future partner or your kids. Think about how you will feel after some fat ugly wanker has had his way with ya, leaves the money down and closes the door, how do ya reckon you'll feel. You could get stuck in it out of comfort and truly mess up your life and find it hard to ever be right again.

    Don't mess your life up, I don't know you, but I know your worth more than that, every woman is.

    Sorry if I posted this twice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭wylo


    If you decide to do that, you must never ever let it get out to any future fella or friends. You will be a whore the rest of your life.
    I dont know one guy that would have even the slightest respect for a girl that would do that.

    To men, women and whores are two completely different people. If I was marrying a girl and she announced she did that I would probably have second thoughts, thinking "im about to marry and ex-prossy"

    I personally dont think there is anything wrong with a girl having sex for money, so long as its not my friend, sister ,girlfriend,etc. A bit contractidory but I dont care, there is so much stigma attached to it that it is built into all of us to think of whores like that, we cant help it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Out of curiosity would you feel the same way about a girl who'd had a couple one night stands, wylo?

    Because honestly, it's the same damn thing. She's just getting money out of it instead of her drinks paid for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭wylo


    Don't do it. You will only hurt yourself. You're born with no money and you can't bring money with you when you die. The most important thing in life is not being financially secure.
    Only financially secure people say that im afraid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Please - less of the use of words like "whore" please. This is clearly an emotional topic but let's stick to helping the OP rather than eulogising.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭wylo


    liah wrote: »
    Out of curiosity would you feel the same way about a girl who'd had a couple one night stands, wylo?
    nope, and I make no apologies for sounding like im contradicting myself. Im just telling the truth of what 99.99% of fellas would definitely think if they found out a girl was a prostitute, they would have a laugh about it yes,but any respect for the girl? not a hope sorry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    wylo wrote: »
    Only financially secure people say that im afraid.

    Yes, but the question to be asked is, would you rather stick out the financial insecurity, and all the risks that go with it, or sell your body for money. It is clear that many would risk it. Some have an alternative opinion alright, I personally don't find such a view very kosher myself, and I personally would hope that people wouldn't put themselves in such a troublesome position.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,114 ✭✭✭doctor evil


    OP you could suffer from emotional issues later on if you become an escort. Ireland is also a very small place.

    You may regret it later on.

    If you decide to do it beware the danger of STI's. A condom does not prevent the spread of all of them.

    Have you tried everywhere for a job?, Not just sending in letters but turning up and asking? Don't just target nice shops, try working in kitchens or as a cleaner or chippy.

    How about baby sitting? or doing odd jobs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,313 ✭✭✭fabbydabby


    I would be far more concerned about contracting an STD than getting beaten up if I were you. HPV (causes genital warts, cervical cancer among other things) is really REALLY contagoius, and condoms don't offer full protection.. Herpes is quite contagious from any skin contact and that's for life, as is HPV. They are viral infections so antibiotics will do fk all (unlike chlamidia or whatever). Then you have Hepatitis B and C, HIV..... A healthy bank balance is not much good to you if you have the AIDS.

    Also, as was pointed out to you above, the kind of people who will be visiting you are the kind of people who pay for sex (for whatever reason). You will be expected to do ALL kinds of sordid and nasty stuff... wtaersports scat... you name it.

    I have heard of Irish girls going to Amsterdam... you basically rent the window and the sex room...for the night and charge whatever you want yourself. Make a few grand in a week and head home again. Job done. Unless you see your uncle there or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭wylo


    @jakkassDont get me wrong I agree with you on the escort thing completely. Its just people that tend to throw out statements about financial security not being important etc dont seem to understand how hard it is for some people, try saying that to someone who has NO money and spends morning to night just trying to get by.

    Dont mind me, I was just nitpicking


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    Have you tried everywhere for a job?, Not just sending in letters but turning up and asking? Don't just target nice shops, try working in kitchens or as a cleaner or chippy.

    How about baby sitting? or doing odd jobs.

    We have a cleaner and she gets paid €12.50 an hour. If she does 8 hours a day, she gets €100 a day, cash in hand. It might not be as quick as being an escort, but if you were making €500 a week cleaning, you'd have earned that €3000 in 6 weeks without selling your body, or putting yourself in dangers way. I'd urge you to go down any other avenue available first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭tink2


    I think you are kidding yourself if you think this is a 'short term solution' you are talking about selling your body I don't think things can get worse than that to be honest. This is something that you will be more than likely be ashamed of for the rest of your life. Are you going to live therest of your life in fear of someone finding out?! I guarantee you your mam and dad would do anything for you to avoid this. Can everyone cop on and help this girl see this is not the way to go?? Saying you wouldn't like your mum/sister/wife doing it but it's okay for this girl? I don't understand that attitude at all. Op sept is 2 months away it is so not worth it. good luck .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Escort does not automatically = having sex for money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 911 ✭✭✭994


    NFH wrote: »
    Am I wrong in thinking that prostitution is illegal in Ireland.
    Yes, you are. Brothel-keeping and overt advertising is illegal but being an "escort" is fine.
    As an escort, men are paying top dollar for your services, so you'd want to be extremely sexually adventurous and open-minded. You'd have to do pretty much anything you can think of (anal, BDSM, group sex, maybe scat, etc etc etc). I'm sure you could specify one or two things that you wouldn't do, but there's no way it would be all run-of-the-mill "everyday" sex as it were. Clients will have all sorts of fetishes that you'd have to cater for and everything.
    I wouldn't think so, if you just made it very clear on the phone that it's normal sex and nothing else you'd be OK. I mean, there are surgeons who don;t get e150 an hour...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭wylo


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Escort does not automatically = having sex for money.
    I can assure the OP would lose every single customer quite fast if that was her business model:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I think there would be a risk that if it goes well you'll want to continue "just another while" to get more money.
    From there it's easy to get into drugs to easy the mind about what you do for a living, and once you've invited drugs it's a very slippery slope.

    If you insist, look into going to Amsterdam or somewhere where there is an organisation around you to protect you from the worst of the eejits out there.
    Best of luck with whatever you decide to do, hope it doesn't have to come to prostitution.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    You'll need a pimp.

    No, seriously. There are many a$$holes out there, and some may not equate no equals no, and thus you may need a strongman to ensure that you're treated okay by the clientele. Also, you'll need someone, or something (like a safe), to keep the money in, so your days money doesn't disappear with two black eyes.

    /edit
    Okay, maybe not a pimp, but you'll need someone that you trust to intervene if the clientele turns out to be an a$$hole who thinks that they can get away with anything, as they think you won't goto the police.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Escort does not automatically = having sex for money.

    Sure, but the website where escorts advertise themselves make it very clear that sex is generally on the cards. I know some very high-class escorts accompany men to events and even just have dinner with them, but I'd say that's very rare in the grand scheme of it.
    994 wrote: »
    I wouldn't think so, if you just made it very clear on the phone that it's normal sex and nothing else you'd be OK. I mean, there are surgeons who don;t get e150 an hour...

    The problem with that is A) the more you restrict what you'll do, the more clients you'll lose. The ones who want anything other than normal sex will go elsewhere. Men who just want normal sex can probably get it elsewhere a lot more cheaply than with an escort, no? B) You're also assuming that the clients will respect the girl's decision not to do anything else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Also ignore people saying you'd always be forced into something you don't wanna do.

    I took a brief look at the site you mentioned and it seems all the girls have a list of things they'll do. Which means the men can pick and choose the girls by what they want and what the girls will do-- which means the girls probably never get trapped into doing things they're not comfortable with.

    If you end up becoming an escort make a clear list of what you want, what you don't want, etc. Advertising as being the GFE (girlfriend experience) might be the best route for someone who doesn't want to get into the seedier side of things. Also remember that despite all the bravado some men don't even end up wanting sex and are just happy with company.

    As long as you are SAFE, as long as you have someone to REPORT BACK TO (even get an online buddy for this purpose if you don't want your friends/family members to know), and as long as it's on YOUR terms, there's nothing wrong with it. A lot of women truly enjoy this kind of work.

    The Amsterdam idea isn't actually all that bad. Ireland is a small country and word does spread quick here, and a lot of people are pretty conservative and old fashioned (Catholic guilt and the like). If you go the way of Europe it might make things a LOT easier on yourself. Also believe this would be an even better way to stay safe as you'd be in a public house which I would assume has some kind of emergency procedure, just in case.

    And nobody has to know unless you want them to; screw the judgements. It's not their life.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭herya


    You are considering crossing the line for €3000, it's one monthly salary for most. Do you really value yourself so low? You have loads of options and only 2 months more to wait for a decent job. I can't see any reasons to sell yourself and to risk possible trauma or disease, it's not like your back is against the wall and so many people are in debt these days Ireland would beat Amsterdam hands down if they all went escorting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    liah wrote: »
    Also ignore people saying you'd always be forced into something you don't wanna do.

    Or, let the OP decide for herself? I'm taking it that she is capable of doing so.
    liah wrote: »
    The Amsterdam idea isn't actually all that bad. Ireland is a small country and word does spread quick here, and a lot of people are pretty conservative and old fashioned (Catholic guilt and the like). If you go the way of Europe it might make things a LOT easier on yourself. Also believe this would be an even better way to stay safe as you'd be in a public house which I would assume has some kind of emergency procedure, just in case.

    People aren't being "old fashioned" for holding relatively conservative views. Sometimes liberalism to the extreme about sexual matters is just plain dangerous and plain idiotic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Jakkass wrote: »
    Or, let the OP decide for herself? I'm taking it that she is capable of doing so.

    I'm just bringing to light the reality of the situation rather than scare-mongering and going "omg you'll have to do this and this and this even if you don't wanna" which is entirely untrue. If she's responsible about it she can draw the line at any time.
    People aren't being "old fashioned" for holding relatively conservative views. Sometimes liberalism to the extreme about sexual matters is just plain dangerous and plain idiotic.

    It is old-fashioned. Look at 50 years ago and look at now. Tables are turning. Thus, by all technical definition, it's old-fashioned, in even the simplest sense of the term.

    Sometimes conservatism to the extreme about sexual matters can be incredibly damaging and dangerous. Works both ways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭herya


    liah wrote: »
    Sometimes conservatism to the extreme about sexual matters can be incredibly damaging and dangerous. Works both ways.

    I wouldn't call asking somebody to be careful about getting into prostitution "extreme conservatism".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭Adamisconfused


    Do as you see fit. If you can say that it definitely won’t affect you in the future, then it’s your body and your choice and I wouldn’t dare preach at you. However, I don’t believe you can be sure that you won’t suffer from severe regret in years to come.
    Personally, I think you would feel very differently when the day arrives to sell your body. You might have some idealised view in your head and think sex for cash is nothing. You aren’t just selling sex; you’re handing away your dignity, time and time again, for a poxy three grand.
    You aren’t saving up to pay for a family members operation. You’re doing it just so you have some spare cash to make it through the summer. If you can put a price on your dignity then so be it. I, for one, would rather die a hundred horrible deaths than involve myself in such a soul destroying business.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    herya wrote: »
    I wouldn't call asking somebody to be careful about getting into prostitution "extreme conservatism".

    Didn't say it was, was just countering his point. And I'm advising her to be careful, too, I'm just not piling on all the useless scare-mongering.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Overature


    aint that just being like a prostitute or something


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭chamlis


    If you want to be an Escort for a short while to cure some debt problems, that's fine. I don't see a problem with that.

    BUT.....

    You don't necessarily need to love your job but you definitely need to at least be comfortable in your own skin and/or at peace with yourself. You need to be disciplined and well able to separate work life and personal life.
    Not taking worst case scenarios into account (others have already covered them), you could find that the money is so good you can't or don't want to stop which would interfere with you personal life and relationships, assuming the whole thing hasn't damaged you mentally and can never form a proper relationship with someone special...

    You would need discipline to quit. You're doing this because you're in debt, so..... my guess is you don't have it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭valery


    Still pickin bits of shrapnel and such stuff outa me arse after a recent (different) thread cos of my "contra****invercial " views, so here we go again.
    Any program/ documentary i have ever seen re. prostitution has always painted a grim picture of the women who ply their bodies to men (mostly) for money, if they are not being battered by "clients" its the bastards who run them are doing it. Then the constant court appearances / the s.t.d`s. ,
    the mental damage over a period of time must destroy their lives. Prostitution exists and will go on probably for ever , I believe there should be much more medical help for women who are caught up in this horror, and there is so much more, young women are being brought into this country today and being forced into prostitution which is a disgrace, we need to see more done to protect women in the face of these vile abusers ....(mostly men) . I sincerely hope the OP knows what she is getting into could very easily end up in more than tears.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    valery wrote: »
    Still pickin bits of shrapnel and such stuff outa me arse after a recent (different) thread cos of my "contra****invercial " views, so here we go again.
    Any program/ documentary i have ever seen re. prostitution has always painted a grim picture of the women who ply their bodies to men (mostly) for money, if they are not being battered by "clients" its the bastards who run them are doing it. Then the constant court appearances / the s.t.d`s. ,
    the mental damage over a period of time must destroy their lives. Prostitution exists and will go on probably for ever , I believe there should be much more medical help for women who are caught up in this horror, and there is so much more, young women are being brought into this country today and being forced into prostitution which is a disgrace, we need to see more done to protect women in the face of these vile abusers ....(mostly men) . I sincerely hope the OP knows what she is getting into could very easily end up in more than tears.

    Suppose you need to see more documentaries then.

    I suggest searching "Stephen Fry in Nevada" in YouTube, perhaps add the word brothel to the search if the video doesn't come up right away.

    Also try to find the episode of Louis Theroux's Weird Weekends where he too visits a brothel and speaks to some incredibly happy sex workers.

    Those two are incredibly good. There's loads more out there, too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭peekyboo


    OP I understand that you seem desperate and feel this is the only way out for you. I honestly don't think anyone is being 'preachy' as another poster said. I do agree though that it may have far more reaching implications than just a few months saving up to pay off debts and that's it. Unfortunately it may be something to come back and bite you in the ass in the future. It may also affect you emotionally or mentally for many years to come. I would advise you to look for waitressing or something along those lines before doing this kind of job.

    Best of luck.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    liah wrote: »
    Didn't say it was, was just countering his point. And I'm advising her to be careful, too, I'm just not piling on all the useless scare-mongering.

    Perhaps my point was extreme, but it's not "useless scare-mongering". It's the reality of selling yourself. Often, people who pay for sex do so because they want to do things they wouldn't necessarily ask a partner to do. They're paying, they're in control, they can do what the want, in their minds. I google "irish escorts" and from the first site that came up, some of the things the girls listed as "sexual favourites" were:
    Sexual Favourites: 69, Domination, French Kissing, GFE, Lapdance, Massage, Oral on me, OWO, Sex Toys, Spanking, Striptease, Tie & Tease, Uniforms, Watersports

    or
    69, CIM, Domination, Facials, French Kissing, GFE, Lapdance, Massage, Oral on me, OWO, Role Play, Sex Toys, Striptease, Tie & Tease, Uniforms, Watersports

    It's the nature of the business that you'll be expected to be very open to different sexual acts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Faith wrote: »
    Perhaps my point was extreme, but it's not "useless scare-mongering". It's the reality of selling yourself. Often, people who pay for sex do so because they want to do things they wouldn't necessarily ask a partner to do. They're paying, they're in control, they can do what the want, in their minds. I google "irish escorts" and from the first site that came up, some of the things the girls listed as "sexual favourites" were:



    or



    It's the nature of the business that you'll be expected to be very open to different sexual acts.

    So all she would have to advertise is what she wants to do. What's wrong with that? Your two findings pretty much supported what I said..

    Plus, how do we know what she's into?

    Also I'd argue that equally as often people look for escorts because they simply can't get sex, period, for whatever reason. Or they're just lonely (hence the need for the GFE, I'd imagine).


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    escort wrote: »
    I think at first I thought escorting would just mean chatting to the guy a bit and then having sex and thats it. I dont think I would have much of a problem with that. However,looking at other escorts services I see that your expected to do a lot more than just have sex.

    I'm a typical,normal Irish girl. I've had sex with three guys, wouldn't be vastly experienced at all, I'm not a prude though and dont have any moral objection to escorting.
    liah wrote: »
    So all she would have to advertise is what she wants to do. What's wrong with that? Your two findings pretty much supported what I said..

    Plus, how do we know what she's into?

    Also I'd argue that equally as often people look for escorts because they simply can't get sex, period, for whatever reason. Or they're just lonely (hence the need for the GFE, I'd imagine).

    By her post, I assumed she's not entirely comfortable with the idea of it being anything other than just having sex. She can advertise what she wants, but if she's not willing to do anything slightly out of the ordinary, for want of a better term, she won't get many clients, meaning she won't be making as much money as she thinks. And again, you're assuming you can trust the client not to force her into something. Unless she has security with her, she's extremely vulnerable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,455 ✭✭✭weemcd


    It's a very far way to go for a couple of grand, would be a burden for you in the future if you ever were in a serious relationship with someone.

    To the op. Have you ever considered something like those medical research companies you can volunteer for? You would test some kind of medicine or something for any side effects, quite a bit of cash and you basically live in the place so you get your stuff paid for while you're there, no bills, food etc. I know its hardly perfect, but its a better option than the one you have suggested and safer too. Very quick way to make a few grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Auldloon


    liah wrote: »
    Out of curiosity would you feel the same way about a girl who'd had a couple one night stands, wylo?

    Because honestly, it's the same damn thing. She's just getting money out of it instead of her drinks paid for.

    Rubbish. In a one night stand attraction and desire are involved.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,114 ✭✭✭doctor evil


    She needs work for two month, why go into something as severe as escort/prostitution?

    If the only thing she advertised was GFE she would not be making any money!

    If she had someone to report to afterwards that would not stop her being violated during the 'date'

    People may compare it to a one night stand but the people who pay for an escort want something more than is generally in a one nighter or are strange individuals.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Faith wrote: »
    By her post, I assumed she's not entirely comfortable with the idea of it being anything other than just having sex. She can advertise what she wants, but if she's not willing to do anything slightly out of the ordinary, for want of a better term, she won't get many clients, meaning she won't be making as much money as she thinks. And again, you're assuming you can trust the client not to force her into something. Unless she has security with her, she's extremely vulnerable.

    Which is why I suggested she have someone to report back to, or the Amsterdam idea. I didn't assume anything, I've made those two points very clear. Safety is the biggest concern. I'm aware of this.

    Oddly inexperience might draw in more clients than you think. Some guys are into that. Like how guys are into virgins.

    If she advertises what she wants in no uncertain terms, then she'll get the clientèle she's looking for. And she can screen as she pleases. All it takes is a peek through a window to see what she's getting. She has the ability to turn him away at any time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭valery


    liah wrote: »
    Suppose you need to see more documentaries then.

    I suggest searching "Stephen Fry in Nevada" in YouTube, perhaps add the word brothel to the search if the video doesn't come up right away.

    Also try to find the episode of Louis Theroux's Weird Weekends where he too visits a brothel and speaks to some incredibly happy sex workers.

    Those two are incredibly good. There's loads more out there, too.


    Nope, the enslaving of young women/girls into prostitution make rubbish of louis and stephens
    attempts at "brightening up" what is a dark and seedy business, "happy sex workers" its populated mainly by women, you do know that , dont you Liah ? It is my opinion that this is an abuse of women.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Chuileog wrote: »
    Rubbish. In a one night stand attraction and desire are involved.

    Not always. People get into scenarios of "ah well sure screw it, not the greatest thing in the world but I need a roide" all the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    valery wrote: »
    Nope, the enslaving of young women/girls into prostitution make rubbish of louis and stephens
    attempts at "brightening up" what is a dark and seedy business, "happy sex workers" its populated mainly by women, you do know that , dont you Liah ? It is my opinion that this is an abuse of women.

    Did you even WATCH the documentaries where they interview the women or are you just spouting off stuff you haven't taken the time to look into?

    There's plenty of interviews with prostitutes who enjoy their jobs floating around out there. Just because some women are in it via bad means doesn't mean they all are.


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