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Porn makes me feel dirty

  • 28-06-2009 03:09PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,006 ✭✭✭✭


    This is going to sound like a weird one. But hey, the virtues of going unreg...

    I'm a 23 year old woman who hasn't had sex in almost two years. I can't fathom casual sex, and haven't been dating much in this time, so I guess the opportunity hasn't presented itself.

    But I have a crazy sex drive. I've been masturbating since I was a kid, and can go a few days without, but then I have days when I'll do it twice, even three times a day. Up until recently, my imagination was all that I needed, but all of a sudden I've discovered porn is a huge turn on and a quicker way of getting me off, and it's something I feel uneasy about. Now I know that most guys watch it etc etc and it's nothing hard core, pretty standard stuff, but I feel like I'm developing a complex about it. I feel dirty after watching it, and weak and ashamed, and I know this is a ridiculous way to feel, but I just can't help it.

    I also worry that I am going to become addicted to the stuff, and real life sex will become even more scarce because I'll become even more used to 'satisfying' myself and won't feel the need for it.

    Any women out there watch porn? It's not the sort of thing I'd discuss with friends so am curious if this is unusual, etc...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭aligator_am


    Hey don't be worrying, porn is a healthy thing to watch, OK, I'll admit that some of it is a bit manky but in general it's good, gets the blood flowing so to speak. You've nothing to feel dirty about, I've not had sex in 3 years (OK in fairness it's starting to drive me insane now) so I feel your pain, but sure what's wrong with watching some porn and getting "self friendly"? It's the church and all the other do gooders that tell you it's wrong, and to me personally that's a load of s***e!

    You've nothing to be ashamed of, honestly, if it makes you feel dirty then use it to your advantage, there's nothing wrong with being like that every now and then, don't be ashamed of being human because really, that's all this is :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Yes women watch porn, lots of adults do and some prefer erotic fiction.
    IT is up to you to figure out how you feel about it and if it's for you or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    It is perfectly natural. You have to relive your sexual tension someone. You have already siad you don't want casual telationships so I see no prob with you masturbating. Just remember to keep up with your other interests too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,308 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Try watching other types of porn, role-playing, or as Thaedydal said, "erotic fiction".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 89 ✭✭Babbit


    Mix up the porn a bit maybe? Don't feel guilty about it anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭JangoFett


    Porn is great, it's there because we need it as human beings. It's healthy to want it and to enjoy it!

    Go nuts!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    OP: My view is going to be a bit more conservative than some of the others on this post. I don't expect you or others to agree with it, but I want you to give it a bit of thought.

    I'm just wondering, that if your conscience is telling you that porn is dirty, might there be a bit of truth in that? Bear in mind, what is culturally acceptable might not always be consistent with what is morally right. In the Western world in particular we have become acquainted with the view that sex is merely an activity like eating and drinking, it isn't something that should be thought much about. You just do it when you need it. However, I don't think this is the case with sex or porn, and I do think that it can become an obsession and a problem in your life just like drugs or alcohol.

    You say that you used to rely on your imagination, but that isn't enough. It seems to me that it is almost an addiction, that you have to move on to harder and harder material, and as such you are growing in a deep dependance to porn and masturbation that may desensitise you in your future sexual activity.

    You say that feeling ashamed about porn is a ridiculous way to feel. I don't think it is ridiculous. If you are finding that is the way you feel. Explore it, find if there is any truth behind it. C.S Lewis (who wrote the Chronicles of Narnia) commonly related in a book about Christian living that an example of pornography and lap dancing to people who are hungry going to watch ham on a stage for an hour. To him it seemed to be at that level of the spectrum. I agree with him, if it wasn't so culturally accepted it would be seen as mere absurdity that one would lust over mere flesh rather than endeavouring for a meaningful relationship.

    As for women who watch porn, you are certainly not alone, it has been estimated that 30% of those who watch porn are women in the US and that the porn industry is worth about $50bn worldwide.

    OP, I think you just need to have a deep think about your feelings and where you are at and see if you agree with me, I just thought I should get an alternative view across :)

    It is possible to give up porn and masturbating, and there are resources out there if you need help in doing so. I'll leave them off this thread unless I get the all clear that I am allowed to post links.

    Good luck :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,006 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Thanks for the feedback guys, and good food for thought there Jakkass.

    I'm pretty certain I'm not in addiction territory with this, as it's sort of something I might delve into of a lazy Saturday afternoon, but I am aware of the slippery-slope character of addictions and I do have an addictive personality so it's something I'll have to keep my eye on.

    It's not that my imagination doesn't 'work' anymore, it's more that, without sounding too graphic, porn gets me off far faster but it's less satisfying than if I let my imagination take over. I think this is why it leaves me feeling guilty, empty...the same feelings I used to get the few times I had a one-nighter in the past - the next morning I'd feel like crap so I decided that I wasn't cut out for casual sex.

    That was two years ago and there's not been anyone on the horizon since really, and that coupled with my high sex drive has meant I've been reliant on 'taking care of myself'...
    I don't feel guilty about masturbating generally, hell I've been doing it since I was a child and it keeps me sane a lot of the time (!!) I guess it's just that I'm generally quite an open minded lady, quite adventurous, naughty...when it comes to my sex life, so these feelings of guilt surprise and confuse me, esp as I've been enjoying it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,006 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I'm a guy and I actually have the same issues as the OP, although I'm feeling less guilty about it all the time. I actually spoke to a professional psychologist about it a few years ago, one who specialises in sexual addiction.
    The conclusion was that I do indeed suffer from sexual addiction, but a relatively mild version. I'd say there are very many of us around.
    Sorry don't mean to hog this thread but what I took out of speaking to the pro was that he was so non-judgemental, it made me realise that it's probably OK and nothing to be guilty about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭herya


    Maybe try researching various styles of porn and erotica to suit your taste better? Porn is not wrong in itself but most of it is so tasteless, unaesthetic and downright stupid that if you're looking at some random internet stuff it might be simply your taste kicking in.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 690 ✭✭✭givyjoe81


    I'm a guy and I actually have the same issues as the OP, although I'm feeling less guilty about it all the time. I actually spoke to a professional psychologist about it a few years ago, one who specialises in sexual addiction.
    The conclusion was that I do indeed suffer from sexual addiction, but a relatively mild version. I'd say there are very many of us around.
    Sorry don't mean to hog this thread but what I took out of speaking to the pro was that he was so non-judgemental, it made me realise that it's probably OK and nothing to be guilty about.

    I find this whole 'addicted to sex' quite strange, like saying your addicted to water.. we all need a bit of both now and again to keep us going, some obviously like the former allot more than others! But choking monkeys and what not 3 times a day, i dont think is 'addiction' territory.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    givyjoe81 wrote: »
    I find this whole 'addicted to sex' quite strange, like saying your addicted to water.. we all need a bit of both now and again to keep us going, some obviously like the former allot more than others! But choking monkeys and what not 3 times a day, i dont think is 'addiction' territory.

    You can become dependant on sex as you can become dependant on drugs or alcohol. If it becomes something that you cannot stop doing, that is the time to worry IMO.

    People have this ridiculous notion that we "need" to either have sex, or masturbate. It's not true in the slightest. I'd honestly advise the OP to keep it for someone special rather than potentially getting herself into a problem of desensitising herself for future sexual encounters, or becoming addicted. I personally don't think there is any likeness between water and what the OP is doing. It is possible to live without porn, it is not possible to live without water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,006 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Jakkass wrote: »

    People have this ridiculous notion that we "need" to either have sex, or masturbate. It's not true in the slightest. I'd honestly advise the OP to keep it for someone special rather than potentially getting herself into a problem of desensitising herself for future sexual encounters, or becoming addicted. I personally don't think there is any likeness between water and what the OP is doing. It is possible to live without porn, it is not possible to live without water.

    I'd agree with you there, I don't need to masturbate or have sex or eat delicious cake or go rollerblading. I want to.(with the possible exception of rollerblading).

    OP, perhaps the quick release is too easy? And thats why you feel left down afterwards? I know of course it's quite like playing with an opposite number. Would you like real-life boy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,006 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Jakkass wrote: »
    You can become dependant on sex as you can become dependant on drugs or alcohol. If it becomes something that you cannot stop doing, that is the time to worry IMO.

    People have this ridiculous notion that we "need" to either have sex, or masturbate. It's not true in the slightest. I'd honestly advise the OP to keep it for someone special rather than potentially getting herself into a problem of desensitising herself for future sexual encounters, or becoming addicted. I personally don't think there is any likeness between water and what the OP is doing. It is possible to live without porn, it is not possible to live without water.

    Perhaps you could give up eating food or breathing air for a while and let us know how you get on.

    It's not necessary to watch TV, could become addicted, give that one up as well.

    Books are terrible things, read a couple and you can get a terrible craving for more - stop reading or you will go blind.

    I know for a fact holidays are addictive, I am always craving more, even within minutes of the last one ending.

    I find music is intensely pleasurable and highly addictive. If anyone were to suggest I give it up I would tell them where they could go in no uncertain terms

    Anything in life that is in the least bit pleasurable is potentially addictive. The idea of avoiding pleasurable things because of this is utterly ludicrous and is insane advice.

    OP, I think others are on the right track in noting that a large proportion of visual porn is repetitive and often crude. I think this might be a contributing factor to your disquiet. Suggestions regarding erotic literature are very sound.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    Perhaps you could give up eating food or breathing air for a while and let us know how you get on.

    This assumes that I see masturbating / sex as a need. I personally don't.
    It's not necessary to watch TV, could become addicted, give that one up as well.

    Probably, then again sex addiction is more akin to taking drugs or drinking due to the fact that it is to seek a high.
    Books are terrible things, read a couple and you can get a terrible craving for more - stop reading or you will go blind.

    Books expand the mind generally :)
    I know for a fact holidays are addictive, I am always craving more, even within minutes of the last one ending.

    Yes, but you can go without a holiday generally. If you couldn't your finances would suffer. Eventually you'd be forced not to take a holiday by financial coercion. It isn't the same with a sex addiction.
    I find music is intensely pleasurable and highly addictive. If anyone were to suggest I give it up I would tell them where they could go in no uncertain terms

    If you spent your entire time listening to music, and were unable to stop even for work, family events and other functions I think people would see that as a problem too.
    Anything in life that is in the least bit pleasurable is potentially addictive. The idea of avoiding pleasurable things because of this is utterly ludicrous and is insane advice.

    It isn't really insane. If it is impacting your life so much that you are looking for harder and harder porn leading you to be further and further desensitised to real life situations rather than fantasy situations it is probably best to stop for your own personal benefit. It's very easy to take it lightly while ignoring the potential effect it could have. It's not about ignoring pleasurable things, it's about letting them take control over your life. That is not good. If you have an addictive personality it is safer for you to avoid IMO. The OP has said she has an addictive personality therefore my advice is sound.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,019 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,006 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    In my case a mild addiction was diagnosed because I was doing something that I would prefer not to do, and that I regretted afterwards.

    In the cases of wine with dinner, tv, books etc. we can easily avoid doing these if we want, we just do it because we want to. And afterwards we generally feel fine about having partaken in that activity.

    I think that defines the addiction factor in this context.

    I'm not saying this is the OP's situation. Nor am I saying that if it was, it would make her situation better or worse. I just think it's good if you can diagnose. This can put some context on things, and maybe give some direction for further reading or talking to an expert.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,006 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Jakkass wrote: »
    You can become dependant on sex as you can become dependant on drugs or alcohol. If it becomes something that you cannot stop doing, that is the time to worry IMO.

    People have this ridiculous notion that we "need" to either have sex, or masturbate. It's not true in the slightest. I'd honestly advise the OP to keep it for someone special rather than potentially getting herself into a problem of desensitising herself for future sexual encounters, or becoming addicted. I personally don't think there is any likeness between water and what the OP is doing. It is possible to live without porn, it is not possible to live without water.

    GI joe here! the reference i meant was to sex not porn, and come off it, you dont 'need' to have sex/masturbate?! Are you joking, speaking as a man, it would be impossible to function perpetually denying oneself some form of 'release'!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,006 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I'm not trying to troll or take the piss or anything here, honestly.
    I'm not sure if it works the same way with girls, but as a guy, once you've "finished" watching porn, you lose interest in sex, but you still have people doing unspeakable things to each other on your screen. My reaction is usually "Ugh, what was I doing?"

    The trick is to turn it off just before you, er, lose interest. Makes things much easier in my experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,006 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I'm not trying to troll or take the piss or anything here, honestly.
    I'm not sure if it works the same way with girls, but as a guy, once you've "finished" watching porn, you lose interest in sex, but you still have people doing unspeakable things to each other on your screen. My reaction is usually "Ugh, what was I doing?"

    The trick is to turn it off just before you, er, lose interest. Makes things much easier in my experience.

    This is exactly it.

    When I'm looking at it without the sexual stimulation, I find myself utterly revolted by it and it's like it's something that I find demeaning, disgusting, not aligned with my moral values. But it does the job, so to speak, so I've been going back to it, then remembering it later with an element of shame and self disgust.

    I've been thinking more and more about this, and I think another reason why masturbation I find to be more satisfying when I'm using my imagination is because I am in the equation, the naughty, nasty things are being done to me within the confines of my imagination....whereas with porn it's right there in front of me, on a screen, and I am the voyeur. It means there's an element of disconnect, I'm getting off on other people's pleasure.

    To be fair it's all relatively new to me, so I haven't exactly done my 'research' and most of the stuff I've seen has been everything you all mentioned - crude, tacky, tasteless....maybe I should explore a bit more, but a part of me just doesn't want to rely on this stuff when I've been fine so long all on my own.

    Bottom line, I'm realising, is that the problem is more so my lack of sex / lack of love life - it's been pretty much non existent for two years and I'm not into casual sex so have accepted that 'self love' was my only option. I'm beginning to wonder why there's not been anyone in my life - don't get me wrong, I'm happy on my own at the moment - but did suddenly accepting myself as self sufficient eradicate the need for a man in my life, or is it preventing me from being truly 'out there'?

    I'm not unattractive, I get a bit of attention, but haven' been asked out or been in a potentially romantic situation in so long it's starting to worry me.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    GI joe here! the reference i meant was to sex not porn, and come off it, you dont 'need' to have sex/masturbate?! Are you joking, speaking as a man, it would be impossible to function perpetually denying oneself some form of 'release'!

    No, I'm not joking. One doesn't "need" to do either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 690 ✭✭✭givyjoe81


    Jakkass wrote: »
    No, I'm not joking. One doesn't "need" to do either.

    Ok so if you dont 'need' to do it, how long have you actually gone without either?!Max? Im expecting not long, with the kind of response that casual smokers tend to make, 'im not addicted, i COULD give up if wanted to..':rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,202 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    I have watched porn with all my exs and with my current squeeze.

    In fact, they loved it. But I have no morals or boundaries and neither did they...:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    This is exactly it.

    When I'm looking at it without the sexual stimulation, I find myself utterly revolted by it and it's like it's something that I find demeaning, disgusting, not aligned with my moral values. But it does the job, so to speak, so I've been going back to it, then remembering it later with an element of shame and self disgust.
    I've been thinking more and more about this, and I think another reason why masturbation I find to be more satisfying when I'm using my imagination is because I am in the equation, the naughty, nasty things are being done to me within the confines of my imagination....whereas with porn it's right there in front of me, on a screen, and I am the voyeur. It means there's an element of disconnect, I'm getting off on other people's pleasure.

    To be fair it's all relatively new to me, so I haven't exactly done my 'research' and most of the stuff I've seen has been everything you all mentioned - crude, tacky, tasteless....maybe I should explore a bit more, but a part of me just doesn't want to rely on this stuff when I've been fine so long all on my own.

    Bottom line, I'm realising, is that the problem is more so my lack of sex / lack of love life - it's been pretty much non existent for two years and I'm not into casual sex so have accepted that 'self love' was my only option. I'm beginning to wonder why there's not been anyone in my life - don't get me wrong, I'm happy on my own at the moment - but did suddenly accepting myself as self sufficient eradicate the need for a man in my life, or is it preventing me from being truly 'out there'?

    I'm not unattractive, I get a bit of attention, but haven' been asked out or been in a potentially romantic situation in so long it's starting to worry me.
    Reading through your posts ,discriptions and expierences with porn OP I would imagine that your situation is pretty much the same for a lot of people .How many times do you see the guilt ie, we / I shouldn't be doing this in the actual porn storyline ? that's as much of the turn on as the actual action itself and getting off on other people pleasure as voyer can also ( obiously ) be the turn on ,even if it is crude, tacky and tasteless stuff .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    givyjoe81 wrote: »
    Ok so if you dont 'need' to do it, how long have you actually gone without either?!Max? Im expecting not long, with the kind of response that casual smokers tend to make, 'im not addicted, i COULD give up if wanted to..':rolleyes:

    I personally don't due to personal beliefs at all. I'm not going to go into a chronology of the history behind it. I am personally free from such a burden and I have been so for a long time. It is possible for others also. I'm just giving my advice to the OP, that if she has an addictive personality she might be at a heightened risk of becoming addicted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 690 ✭✭✭givyjoe81


    Jakkass wrote: »
    I personally don't due to personal beliefs at all. I'm not going to go into a chronology of the history behind it. I am personally free from such a burden and I have been so for a long time. It is possible for others also. I'm just giving my advice to the OP, that if she has an addictive personality she might be at a heightened risk of becoming addicted.

    Yes, but in doing so your are denying yourself the satisfaction of a need, your beliefs dont make that 'itch' go away, similar to staying thirsty if you dont take a drink;).

    I dont think there is any risk of addiction on the part of the op, dont think thats even close to why she posted, plenty, if not a majority of average joe's and jills watch porn, nothing wrong with it, or something to feel guilty about.

    Oh, and its hardly a burden, if anything your beliefs are giving you a hefty burden to carry around with you :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    givyjoe81 wrote: »
    Yes, but in doing so your are denying yourself the satisfaction of a need, your beliefs dont make that 'itch' go away, similar to staying thirsty if you dont take a drink;).

    Nobody needs it IMO. I personally think that the OP and anyone else will value their sexuality more if they find someone special that they wish to commit to for their rest of their lives instead of committing themselves to a computer screen, or a television.

    This notion that people have to have sex, and that people have to masturbate is mere fiction and propoganda in my eyes. Drinking something is not the same as watching porn. I don't see how logically anyone can come to such a conclusion.
    givyjoe81 wrote: »
    I dont think there is any risk of addiction on the part of the op, dont think thats even close to why she posted, plenty, if not a majority of average joe's and jills watch porn, nothing wrong with it, or something to feel guilty about.

    You aren't aware of any such addiction for one of two reasons:
    1) You aren't acquainted with such an addiction.
    or
    2) You are so used to the idea of pornography that you see that when people have a problem with it, it is entirely "normal".
    givyjoe81 wrote: »
    Oh, and its hardly a burden, if anything your beliefs are giving you a hefty burden to carry around with you :D

    I find my beliefs liberating, and I personally find that this is a burden. Hence why I am thankful that I am not stuck in such a habit, a habit that may be too hard to get out of for the OP one day. As I said earlier OP, if you use a bit of intuition there are various resources out there that deal with lust addiction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 690 ✭✭✭givyjoe81


    Jakkass wrote: »
    Nobody needs it IMO. I personally think that the OP and anyone else will value their sexuality more if they find someone special that they wish to commit to for their rest of their lives instead of committing themselves to a computer screen, or a television.

    This notion that people have to have sex, and that people have to masturbate is mere fiction and propoganda in my eyes. Drinking something is not the same as watching porn. I don't see how logically anyone can come to such a conclusion.



    You aren't aware of any such addiction for one of two reasons:
    1) You aren't acquainted with such an addiction.
    or
    2) You are so used to the idea of pornography that you see that when people have a problem with it, it is entirely "normal".



    I find my beliefs liberating, and I personally find that this is a burden. Hence why I am thankful that I am not stuck in such a habit, a habit that may be too hard to get out of for the OP one day. As I said earlier OP, if you use a bit of intuition there are various resources out there that deal with lust addiction.

    The OP didnt come close to mentioning an addiction for christ sake, she came on cos she felt guilty about watching the stuff.

    And how you can see the simple comparison to quenching a thirst is baffling to me, we are humans with some basic animal needs and harping about how you think no-one 'needs' these things is just silly.

    We are all human, we eat, we sleep, we fcuk.. sorry to be blunt but your making things far more complicated than they are. Fiction.. propoganda?! I dont have sex etc cos i read somewhere in some book or where ever else you silly person, i do it because im h0rny!!! No external influence required, cept perhaps my other half.

    Have a problem with porn all you like, but there is clearly a huge worldwide market for it, or else it wouldnt be made! Wouldlnt use the word normal, as we clearly would have different uses for the word.

    Im sorry, but i really dont think your qualified to be giving the OP advice, im not saying i am, but from your posts, it seems you dont masturbate, ever, and am getting the impression you are celebate? But if not, touching one self is a perfectly natural and normal thing, and trying to tell me or anyone else otherwise just isnt credible. In short you seem to be labelling the OP as 'addicted' from the view point of not doing at all. Bit like a pioneer labelling the occasional drinker such as myself an alcoholic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    givyjoe81 wrote: »
    The OP didnt come close to mentioning an addiction for christ sake, she came on cos she felt guilty about watching the stuff.

    She did say she has an addictive personality when she was responding to my post. As such I see it as an area of potential concern for the OP.
    givyjoe81 wrote: »
    And how you can see the simple comparison to quenching a thirst is baffling to me, we are humans with some basic animal needs and harping about how you think no-one 'needs' these things is just silly.

    I can't see any comparison. Whether or not you masturbate or have sex is a want rather than a need. Nobody has to. I think it's ludicrous to advocate the position that it is a need.
    givyjoe81 wrote: »
    We are all human, we eat, we sleep, we fcuk.. sorry to be blunt but your making things far more complicated than they are. Fiction.. propoganda?! I dont have sex etc cos i read somewhere in some book or where ever else you silly person, i do it because im h0rny!!! No external influence required, cept perhaps my other half.

    Yes, it's fiction and propoganda to suggest that people need to have sex or masturbate when it isn't the case. I have nothing to suggest that this is a need.
    givyjoe81 wrote: »
    Have a problem with porn all you like, but there is clearly a huge worldwide market for it, or else it wouldnt be made! Wouldlnt use the word normal, as we clearly would have different uses for the word.

    I'm merely here to give advice to the OP, not to debate about porn. I'm merely saying that it is possible that the OP will become addicted. I think she needs to sit back and think about why her conscience is telling her what it is telling her and perhaps try listening to it a bit more.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 690 ✭✭✭givyjoe81


    Jakkass wrote: »
    Yes, it's fiction and propoganda to suggest that people need to have sex or masturbate when it isn't the case. I have nothing to suggest that this is a need.

    Really... ever had an erection?! Literally the craziest thing i have ever read.

    You may not need to, but i certainly do, i have a normal healthy sex drive but i find it extremely hard to concentrate when i have 'other' things on my mind, particularly if im near a computer :o


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