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SKY increasing subscription fee's

  • 27-06-2009 10:29pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭


    I don't have too much information about this at the moment but I spotted it being mentioned on avforums and I though it was worth a look.

    http://www.avforums.com/forums/sky-sky/1026059-sky-subs-up-again.html

    Short story is that people in the UK recieved a letter in the July issue of their SKY mag (which I have yet to recieve)
    detailing the new subscription prices.

    Should we prepare ourselves for similar letters coming in our letter boxes?


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,943 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    recession ffs ,money hungry *****


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    If they raise them here also then they are taking the piss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭Sam Radford


    They raise them every September. Nothing new there.
    (And it's "fees" not "fee's".)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,088 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Yep there'll be the usual €1/2 per package increase I'd imagine. Doesn't bother me too much as the poor price-value ratio has already prompted me to drop from full pack + HD sub to the basic €22 package in the last few months.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 Letchy_06


    Ah sure Murdoch must be feeling the pinch ... Will we get the new ESPN America Prem matches in the sub increases ???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    No. Why would Sky increases entitle you to have the ESPN content that ESPN have already said will cost extra.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭Hogzy


    With so many people reducing their packages that would be a very silly move, IMO prices should be reduced, the more people you have watching the more they can charge for advertising etc etc!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 Letchy_06


    thats where i didnt read that part :( ... when will we know the story on it ???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    (And it's "fees" not "fee's".)

    Thanks for that. :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 837 ✭✭✭CutzEr


    I really don't care, €1.50 or so, doesn't affect me in the slightest.

    If you don't like it, go to the ****tyness of UPC.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    £1 increase on most packages in the UK.
    10 million subscribers ;1 for 12 months =£120m
    Nice money and all the time the service deteriorates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭Widescreen


    CutzEr wrote: »
    I really don't care, €1.50 or so, doesn't affect me in the slightest.

    If you don't like it, go to the ****tyness of UPC.

    Bully for you! The opinion you have voiced here is indicative of a significant majority in this country,which is why we always pay over the odds in this country!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    CutzEr wrote: »
    I really don't care, €1.50 or so, doesn't affect me in the slightest.

    If you don't like it, go to the ****tyness of UPC.

    Or downgrade or even better still watch the free channels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,711 ✭✭✭fat-tony


    Mossy Monk wrote: »
    If they raise them here also then they are taking the piss.
    Consider the urine extracted MM:D
    Just got my SKY mag this morning with a little love letter from the Marketing Director telling me my sub for the basic package plus one mix has gone from €22.50 to €23.50 and once the UK VAT rate goes back to 17.5% next January, my sub will be €24.00 :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Essexboy


    fat-tony wrote: »
    Consider the urine extracted MM:D
    Just got my SKY mag this morning with a little love letter from the Marketing Director telling me my sub for the basic package plus one mix has gone from €22.50 to €23.50 and once the UK VAT rate goes back to 17.5% next January, my sub will be €24.00 :rolleyes:

    Yes, I got something similar but it constantly referred to "the government" when it meant the British government. Are they too lazy to change the text for Irish subscribers, or do they think we are still part of Her Majesty's dominions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,711 ✭✭✭fat-tony


    No - SKY are a UK company and the services they sell are subject to UK VAT (not RoI VAT), currently reduced to 15% and going back up to 17.5% in Jan.

    Apologies - misread your post. Yes, SKY should have referred to UK Government VAT and also should have referred to the fact that the movement in euro / sterling exchange rate in the past year has made them piles of money:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,987 ✭✭✭Trampas


    Got the letter myself today.

    sub going up to €60 next year :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Mine stays the same. Cost of TV licence.

    up to 16 feeds from 13, 19, 23.5 & 28.
    Motor for 42E to 45W
    DVDs for classic series and decent cinema releases.
    TV aerial for 4 Irish channels,

    After 6months most of the pay channels recycle. I'd say a lot of people only have sat subs either they don't realise how many free channels there are or they want pay TV sport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,711 ✭✭✭fat-tony


    watty wrote: »
    Mine stays the same. Cost of TV licence.
    mmmmm, schadenfreude watty ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Got this letter today, along with the rubbish Sky "You should get HD to watch this" magazine/advert (which I previously asked not to be sent) listing all of the crap that's gonna be on Sky Sports over the summer - who the f**k wants to watch cricket, FFS!

    I'm currently on €55 sub (a supposed "special offer"), and that's gonna be going up to €67; well actually, that's what the letter says, but I'll be long gone before I'll pay that much for the rubbish that they're currently showing; 3 nights last week there wasn't ONE thing worth watching on, and I had to resort to a repeat of Qi that I nearly knew off by heart!

    But reading the letter and the magazine, you'd swear Sky had cutting edge, new and amazing TV!

    Well, they have, but it's on Sky Box Office and it costs you ANOTHER €5.80 :P

    Sky HD - the same repeated crap in more detail than ever before!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,140 ✭✭✭John mac


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    who the f**k wants to watch cricket, FFS!
    Me:D

    but I Wont pay for it.

    So I have to make do with radio 4:) Or 5 live


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    listing all of the crap that's gonna be on Sky Sports over the summer - who the f**k wants to watch cricket, FFS!
    The Ashes,biggest event of the Summer according to Sky,FFS.
    A biannual event that England have won once in the last 22 years ,an absolute disgraceful record they should be ashamed of.
    I'm happy I have left Sky and like Watty enjoy the other fine providers in Europe instead of listening to Sky's narrow minded propaganda.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭tippspur


    With Satanta gone Sky can charge whatever they like now for sports,


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    tippspur wrote: »
    With Satanta gone Sky can charge whatever they like now for sports,

    given they carried different programming, setanta being gone makes no odds to sky's pricing. if they carried the same matches it would have kept sky's pricing down, as people could have gotten setanta for cheaper. but given tehy had exclusive rights to all the matches thwy showed, if you wanted to see them you ahd to pay sky, which meant setanta being there had nothing to do with their pricing.

    even if sky put up their sports sub by 15 euros, it would still work out cheaper than skysub + setanta sub.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Quick at putting their rates up but when the euro is strong prices stay the same :rolleyes: :mad:.

    I'll be downgrading my package and it's about time they got rid of the extra sub fee for HD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    fat-tony wrote: »
    No - SKY are a UK company and the services they sell are subject to UK VAT (not RoI VAT), currently reduced to 15% and going back up to 17.5% in Jan.

    Well if thats the case then all subs should be charged in pounds but Sky want their cake and eat it too.
    I honestly dont know how Sky get away with not paying Irish Vat rates ,the Irish exchequer must be losing out on millions every year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,677 ✭✭✭staker


    Go on Watty, post a picture!!:D


    I'm on the basic €20, but must look further into DTT as a subsitute.
    Wish to god they'd sort something out!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    John mac wrote: »
    Me:D

    but I Wont pay for it.

    So I have to make do with radio 4:) Or 5 live

    Yep same here. Ill be avoiding the scores during the day and watching highlights on FIVE.

    I agree with the comments here about the sterling V Euro rates, they are a UK company and charge accordingly, but they don't adjust their subs in regards to the exchange rates!

    The problem is 99% of Irish folk will just get on with it and pay whatever. Its only us 1% that say something or make the smallest of stands.

    If only this TV without borders law will get passed in the Euro courts allowing any EU state to legally sell a subscription in another EU country. I thought that what the EU was set up for?

    I got rid of sky sports a long time ago and get all my sports either FTA or via a genuine foreign sub (Excluding cricket!)

    Oh, Essexboy, like your comments about "Her Majesty's dominions" when you have a boards name like that?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    snaps wrote: »
    I agree with the comments here about the sterling V Euro rates, they are a UK company and charge accordingly, but they don't adjust their subs in regards to the exchange rates!

    The problem is 99% of Irish folk will just get on with it and pay whatever. Its only us 1% that say something or make the smallest of stands.
    I got onto them before about not adjusting prices with regards to exchange rates, they said they don't do it as it would mean them adjusting prices a few times a year :rolleyes:.

    I then asked them to stop sending me their useless skymag and deduct the cost of it from my monthly sub, they said it was free and that they could not stop it, correct me if I'm wrong but do we not pay for it :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭td1


    Ah yes - if it's July it must be time for Sky to remind us of the "great value entertainment" they're providing, then in the same breath tell us that we're going to be paying more for it! And there was me thinking that value meant getting more for less. And this time it's a double whammy - due to "the government's" u-turn on VAT - I hadn't noticed a reduction when that change was originally made! On top of all the other stuff (recording failures, regularly needing to reboot - anyone else have these problems?, and the farce of paying for a Sky+ box when less than half the capacity is available to me for recordings I might want to make - thanks to the ridiculous "anytime"), this is the final straw - back to the pub for the sports from now on! Is Chorus really that bad an alternative??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    my sky subscription is up to £47.50 then in jan 2010 its going up to £48.50


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    fat-tony wrote: »
    Consider the urine extracted MM:D
    Just got my SKY mag this morning with a little love letter from the Marketing Director telling me my sub for the basic package plus one mix has gone from €22.50 to €23.50 and once the UK VAT rate goes back to 17.5% next January, my sub will be €24.00 :rolleyes:
    Frankly thats outrageous.
    So basically when they told some people on here earlier in the year that they would take the sterling Euro difference into account at the end of the year when they do their anual price review-they were lying...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    snaps wrote: »

    If only this TV without borders law will get passed in the Euro courts allowing any EU state to legally sell a subscription in another EU country. I thought that what the EU was set up for?

    I think its Dec 2009 that it comes into law ?
    Skys number will be up .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,002 ✭✭✭IrishHomer


    getz wrote: »
    my sky subscription is up to £47.50 then in jan 2010 its going up to £48.50

    Eh this is Ireland so we use € not £ :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Got my nice letter off Sky today .
    Sky World plus Sports up from 60 to 63 euro a month then 64 in Jan,great value for money .
    They wont be getting a penny off me,cancelled my sub 5 weeks ago.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    I think its Dec 2009 that it comes into law ?
    Skys number will be up .

    No sky find loopholes/backdoors/way around things, like theyve found a way around offcoms rule that they have to allow subscribers to just subscribe to sports or movies without the basic packages..........

    They are charging a standing fee of 15£ a month if you take just sports saving you 1£! (Uk only)

    The Germans are not happy either now that Mr Murdoch has taken over Premiere (German pay tv operator) average sub was 19e a month as you could have whatever package you wanted (Just sports, or just movies etc) thats changed now and you cant have just sports or movies etc, you have to get the basics as well, making the average sub go up to over 32e! Premiere sold their business as subscriptions were falling, reckon they'll drop a bit more now!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 742 ✭✭✭channelsurfer


    anyone got a list/link of the irish prices from september 2009? thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,015 ✭✭✭Ludo


    Can anyone verify definitively that Sky dropped the price we pay here in Ireland when the UK goverment lowered the VAT rate there? I don't remember it myself.

    *EDIT*
    hmmm...looking back over my bills since last november on mysky, it is hard to tell what was going on to be honest. It went...
    Nov - 61
    Dec - 61
    Jan - 60
    Feb - 58.26
    Mar - 60
    Apr - 60

    Don't know what is up with that really.Went down twice and then up again. So I still have no idea if they passed on the vat decrease. It dropped on the 1st Dec 2008....but our bills didn't drop until Jan...is that because they bill a month in arrears?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭TheBigEvil


    Yep, I got the letter too. I think its gone up pretty much every year since I joined. And I have to agree, I don't remember it ever dropping when the VAT rate hit 15% in UK.

    Don't understand why they don't take exchange rate into account, its becoming more and more of a rip off. Especially when they're charging £14.95 for a PPV but that magically translates to €21.95 (Not that I have ever bought any PPV stuff).

    Its laughable how the call it "Great Value" when your not getting any thing new, but have to pay more for it.

    Have been thinking of dropping it completely for a while now, this might be the nail in the coffin. Might just buy a larger dish, and get as many freeview channels as possible, although I'll miss the sports. I don't see chorous NTL as an alternative.

    Screw 'Em :mad: :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    TheBigEvil wrote: »
    Have been thinking of dropping it completely for a while now, this might be the nail in the coffin. Might just buy a larger dish, and get as many freeview channels as possible, although I'll miss the sports. I don't see chorous NTL as an alternative.

    Screw 'Em :mad: :mad:

    If are getting a Freesat reciever to replace your SKY box then you went need a new dish, providing you live in Ireland, UK or Northen France.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭dubmick


    TheBigEvil wrote: »
    And I have to agree, I don't remember it ever dropping when the VAT rate hit 15% in UK.

    It definitely dropped in price. Not by much. For example I think muli room went from €15 to €14.75


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    dubmick wrote: »
    It definitely dropped in price. Not by much. For example I think muli room went from €15 to €14.75
    Wow, 4 months of that and I'll be able to get myself a packet of Tayto's :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,002 ✭✭✭IrishHomer


    Wow, 4 months of that and I'll be able to get myself a packet of Tayto's :D

    I remember Packet of Tayto costing 7p and i am only 40yrs old. :o

    I ditched Sky 2 months ago and i dont miss it one bit but i have an english card and it also operated the + features on the fta channels.

    I was amazed today i received a new white card from Sky despite me closing the account over 2 months ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 205 ✭✭cruizer22b


    I use to pay €86 per month at one stage but it did drop slightly IIRC. I got the letter as well saying its going back up to around €86 for me, still better then the NTL I had.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The slight drop was the UK vat drop.
    It wasnt the goodness of sky.

    That will be going back up too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,856 ✭✭✭Clover


    After reading this thread I decided to open and read the letter that was with the sky mag, and my bill will be €69.75 from September :eek: .

    Fu*k that for a game of soldiers I said to myself , so I rang sky and got my multiroom sub cut from €15 to €7.50 for 12 months and 20% off my sky packages for 6 months:D .

    So now my sub will be €34.75 in August and €49 from September until January 7th. :D

    Very happy with that and sky still have me as a customer, for now.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Clover wrote: »
    I rang sky and got my multiroom sub cut from €15 to €7.50 for 12 months and 20% off my sky packages for 6 months:D .
    Did you say you were going to cancel or did you ask for a deal to be done ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭TheBigEvil


    Clover wrote: »
    Fu*k that for a game of soldiers I said to myself , so I rang sky and got my multiroom sub cut from €15 to €7.50 for 12 months and 20% off my sky packages for 6 months:D .

    So now my sub will be €34.75 in August and €49 from September until January 7th. :D

    So come on, spill the beans!!!! What old pony did you give them to get those discounts??


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I just rang up, looking to get a deal done as I'm out of work, been with them for 10 years and the reply I got was "no deal can be done, press 5, 3 to cancel" and she hung up :mad:

    They must not want my money :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,856 ✭✭✭Clover


    I rang to get rid of the movies, multiroom and reduce to just three packages to cut costs as it's getting to high. I told them the three packages that I wanted to keep and it was then that she offered the 20% discount on my sub , which I took.

    She then informed me that I would have to ring again to get through to the department that deals with cancellations to see if I could get a deal on the multiroom sub .

    Rang back and got through to the multiroom department and told them that I wanted to cancel the sub as €15 a month for the multiroom was to dear and he then offered me half price multiroom for 12 months.

    I rang with the intention of cutting back the costs to around €25 per month but I have left things as they are for now, thanks to the discounts.


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