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Fight Night Round 4

  • 26-06-2009 3:26pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭


    Anyone purchased this yet? Looks top notch. Some excellent reviews flying around bout it too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    Played the demo (yes, I seem to play a lot of demos) and it seems very similar, too similar, to FNR3, which i had.

    Good game, but I would probably get it on xbox as the spongy analogue sticks on the PS3 made it hard to string combos together.

    Still, they have improved the career mode which was the major weak link in FNR3, aside from the grotesque use of in-game advertising (seriously, how can they charge full price for a game when they are getting cheques from Burger King and Dodge, the scoundrels!).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    What is the lighting and colours like in this game? It may seem like a strange thing to say but the dullness of FNR3 really took away from the game.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Played the demo and have to say i taught it was terrible, i think KO Kings went downhill when they changed from ''buttons=punches'' to ''analogue=punches'', it's just to awkward, same as FIFA(in terms of doing the skills), it's too complicated for your brain to press different directions in a fast paced game.

    I still taught it was ok the past few years, but maybe UFC has raised the bar in terms of what i want from a fighting game, they kept it simple(buttons are identical to the old KO Kings) and it works, you can block easier and unleash counters quicker, in Fight Night you have to hold R1 and aim the analogue to block, too awkward then to start laying off quick counters as you have to release R1 then start twisting directions, found my game in the demo was just a slug fest and didn't enjoy it at all, would be so much better if they made their controls more user friendly, could have some good fast paced fights


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,283 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    Bought it today for a fairly reasonable price in comparison to others at €44.99 (minus €5 on Game card) so it really only cost €39.99. btw Game are doing a deal if you buy F.N.R.4 then you can buy a new Dualshock3 for €39.99 instead of the €49.99 it usually is

    I've only had the time to try Fight Now and I must say it's very good. Very realistic with the way the boxers move and the importance of blocking and dodging punches.

    Someone has said it's difficult to use the stick to punch but after like 2/3 fights you get the hang of it.

    Only problem I have is that it is very difficult to get a K.O.

    But otherwise it's a great purchase and is excellent for having friends round and getting your fight on, but I prefer UFC.

    Must go have a crack off Legacy Mode now.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    aaronh007 wrote: »
    Bought it today for a fairly reasonable price in comparison to others at €44.99 (minus €5 on Game card) so it really only cost €39.99. btw Game are doing a deal if you buy F.N.R.4 then you can buy a new Dualshock3 for €39.99 instead of the €49.99 it usually is

    I've only had the time to try Fight Now and I must say it's very good. Very realistic with the way the boxers move and the importance of blocking and dodging punches.

    Someone has said it's difficult to use the stick to punch but after like 2/3 fights you get the hang of it.

    Only problem I have is that it is very difficult to get a K.O.

    But otherwise it's a great purchase and is excellent for having friends round and getting your fight on, but I prefer UFC.

    Must go have a crack off Legacy Mode now.



    I'm used to it, i played all the following KO Kings and FN's since they changed the buttons, but it just needlessly slows it down, it's so much easier for your brain to register: Square-Left, Triangle-Right and adding back buttons for lower punches ala UFC + KO Kings then all this multiple directions stuff they have now...

    I was really looking forward to it, but i think UFC has shown the limitations of a boxing game with un-friendly controls

    Not alone does UFC has much more variety in how you can fight i think they hit the nail on the head with the general standup configurations, you can change from blocking to striking in a flash, it keeps things simple but in a tactical way


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭TanG411


    it's a great game imo. The analouge has been redesigned which makes it easier to use. I used buttons for FNR3 so I had to get used to stick control.

    The lighting has improved so it doesn't have a dull effect.

    the counter punch seems to be the main aim of the game. You can't win a fight if you don't block (unless you play on amateur difficulty)

    There's loads more stats for your boxer and more trainig sessions which makes it fun. Loading times seems to have shorten as well.

    The only problem I have with it is clinching. Whenever you have the upper hand by stunning your opponent, he cliches onto you instantly which helps him regain some sort of consciousness. It can be frustrating.

    Overall, 8.5/10
    Big improvement from last years game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭consultech


    Larkin501 wrote: »
    it's a great game imo. The analouge has been redesigned which makes it easier to use. I used buttons for FNR3 so I had to get used to stick control.

    The lighting has improved so it doesn't have a dull effect.

    the counter punch seems to be the main aim of the game. You can't win a fight if you don't block (unless you play on amateur difficulty)

    There's loads more stats for your boxer and more trainig sessions which makes it fun. Loading times seems to have shorten as well.

    The only problem I have with it is clinching. Whenever you have the upper hand by stunning your opponent, he cliches onto you instantly which helps him regain some sort of consciousness. It can be frustrating.

    Overall, 8.5/10
    Big improvement from last years game.

    Push him off with Square.

    Im not sure on it yet, have played legacy for 13 odd fights now and am very weak compared to the other fighters ranked around me as Im strugglin with training. This is the first FN game Ive plyed, blocking seems so out of place and unrealistic, doesnt fit naturally at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,283 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    Larkin501 wrote: »
    it's a great game imo. The analouge has been redesigned which makes it easier to use. I used buttons for FNR3 so I had to get used to stick control.

    The lighting has improved so it doesn't have a dull effect.

    the counter punch seems to be the main aim of the game. You can't win a fight if you don't block (unless you play on amateur difficulty)

    There's loads more stats for your boxer and more trainig sessions which makes it fun. Loading times seems to have shorten as well.

    The only problem I have with it is clinching. Whenever you have the upper hand by stunning your opponent, he cliches onto you instantly which helps him regain some sort of consciousness. It can be frustrating.

    Overall, 8.5/10
    Big improvement from last years game.


    That's not entirely true about not blocking and winning on amateur. I've been playing on Pro (it was a surprise when I discovered that) and I've not really got the hang of blocking as of yet but seem to have not as much trouble as I would have thought to beat the other fighters.

    Training just seems like a boring mini-game they stuck in just to break up the monotonous fight-rest-fight-rest-fight. And it doesn't really make that much of a difference to your stats either. My fighters stats are probably worse off than when I started Legacy Mode.

    Clinching when stunned can be frustrating but what I've found works is push him away immediately, then knock him down with a haymaker. It tends to work for me. If not a haymaker then consecutive straights and uppercuts do the trick.

    Other than a few minor problems and I wouldn't really use that word, this is a very entertaining game and excellent for you and your friends to wail on each other :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭Stevo105


    training tips. you need to do the training or you will be week later on in the game
    open sparring- jab. jab a lot and this one should be easy. if u see an opening then go ahead and lay a few hooks on ur partner but in general, focus on the jab and not getting hit

    stay on your feet- same thing with a little extra attention on blocking and leaning. u get a big bonus for not getting knocked down but ive been floored 5 times and still got champion so dont worry if u do

    heavy bag combos- this one is self explanatory and it really depends on how good u are with tpc. i didnt find it hard but thats just me. one tip that i can give anyone whos having trouble is to make sure u throw ur hooks right (body and upper). when u flick the stick to the side, make sure that it is exactly on the horizontal or a little above. if u are even the slightest bit under the horizontal, u will throw an uppercut. also, take ur time. u get more points for streaks with no mistakes and if u go super slow the entire time but make no mistakes, youll get champion

    heavy bag push- this one got me for a while but some guy on gamefaqs gave a tip and it worked for me. wut u do is imagine your fighter throwing 2 or 3 hit combos at a time. in your head u should be like: 1-2-3, pause, 1-2, pause, 1-2-3, pause, etc. how long ur pause is is dependent on how fast ur reaction time is. just make sure u pause long enough to know that ur hitting the right part of the bag. using this method, if u hit the wrong part, u will only hit it once and youll immediately hit the right part so that the bag moves forward again. i used all hooks with this exercise, too. it moves the bag more i think

    double end bag- the 2nd hardest game. just make sure u think before u move. if u move in the wrong direction then switch directions, youre screwed. try to get perfect on this. sounds really bad but if u take a second to think before u move, youll make it on time to land a punch. i threw all body hooks on this one. if ur target is far, throw 1 punch. if its medium, throw 2. if its right next to where ur standing, throw 3

    maize bag- not that hard if u kno wut to do. wait for the bag to cross the middle then weave twice. if ur fast, weave three times but u dont hav to. when it says punch, make sure the bag is not in the center cus ur body might hit it. i always threw right body hooks cus it was easiest for me. overall, just take ur time cus if u go slow but make no mistakes, youll get it easily. u could prolly make 1 mistake and still get it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭Stevo105


    More Training tips

    Ok..... First thing you need to do is switch off Auto-saves, then save the just before you do your training...then after each training session quit out and load Legend mode again.

    I did this today...just played the Training games for about an hour, im not getting everything 100% but i am getting better and most of the time i get 4 points into each stat.....its a pain in the @ss at first. But you do start to find the games a bit easier as you keep repeating them. Im have created another game save now just to tain myself to play the training games, if that makes any sence.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭consultech


    ^^^ The training games are actually available seperately in "My Corner" at the main menu,so you don't need to do them in Legacy and re-load if it's only for practice, FYI. You can keep autosave on and quit legacy mode after you've scheduled a fight and simulated the calender dates. If you dont do this and restart the ps3 it will actually go back before you scheduled the fight and waited, which is time-consuming and annoying. t's grand if you complete one training, as it saves it for some reason. ^^^

    Yeah Ive been cheating a bit with building my fighter up with champion grades from every training I can. I have it saved before training, and quit out and reload (actually have to reset the ps3, is there an easier way Im not thinkin of?) if I get "prospect" or lower.

    I can consistently get "champion" in everything except the 2 heavy bag trainings - It took me a while to figure out that you could lean as many times as u wanted between maize bag swings though!! I'm still strugglin badly with the bag push though, Ill try that 2/3 burst combos thing later. I need to figure out the best distance to stay away from it too, as it makes mention of it in the game, so must be NB.

    With the double end bag just try and get to the zone and only throw a jab if u have to, as the most important thing is getting a streak together - Sometimes u get into a nice rhythm and and just circle and hit and never have to change directions - others ur just destined to not get Champion on it coz it keeps settin the zone on the opposite side.

    For the guy above that said training doesnt make a difference? I got strangely spontaneously challenged by the 5th ranked fighter when I was 30 in my first (and aborted) legacy, and there was about 30 rating points between us. I got flattened in the first 20 seconds. In my new one I waited 6 months between every fight for the first 5 years so I could get 3 trainings in each time. I'm ranked 11 in Light-Heavy now at 26yo, so need to get a move on and only do 2 beween fights, but Adamek is ranked top of LH division with 96 rating, and would mash my face if I tried to fight him now.

    As u move up the rankings you really need to start boxing smarter than just coming out of the gate swinging left and right hooks ad infinitum. You need to slow your output down as you need to go the distance more often. Try and slip to the sides, trying to open up counter opportunities. Try working the body for the first couple of rounds to sap the stamina of the bigger hitters you'll be facing also.

    ALSO: Has anyone got gameface going? I tried to go on EA Sports World and figure out how, but it seemed like it was down or somethin? I dunno...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭Stevo105


    consultech wrote: »
    actually have to reset the ps3, is there an easier way Im not thinkin of.

    I dont know why you have to do this, just turn off autosave and backout of the calender just before you press train and do a manual save in the options when you press "start" ... you could mess up your harddrive doing that, i wouldnt risk it for anygame

    Thanks for the My corner tip :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Here's a stupid question, but what are the difficulty levels? I got this yesterday and was playing it for a whiel but was getting hammered. There's amateur, medium (can't remember what it's called, but it's basically medium setting) and pro. There's also G.O.A.T. which confused me. Is that the hardest or the easiest? I'm hoping it's the hardest as that's what I was playing on and have yet to make it to round 3 of any fight. If it's the easiest, there's no hope for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 92 ✭✭nige1982


    I got the game on friday, really like it much better than FNR3, takes longer to knock out the other player, the best thing about the game is you can downlad other users created boxers (xbox360 anyway) I have downloaded kimbo slice
    Rocky
    Klitchko
    Amir Khan
    Appollo Cread
    Barack obama

    Makes it more fun playing on line


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭Stevo105


    humanji wrote: »
    Here's a stupid question, but what are the difficulty levels? I got this yesterday and was playing it for a whiel but was getting hammered. There's amateur, medium (can't remember what it's called, but it's basically medium setting) and pro. There's also G.O.A.T. which confused me. Is that the hardest or the easiest? I'm hoping it's the hardest as that's what I was playing on and have yet to make it to round 3 of any fight. If it's the easiest, there's no hope for me.

    G.O.A.T = Greatest of all time.....easy it will not be. You have to block in this game and move your head, the last one FNR3 i didnt block at all....

    You need to think a bit one with this one and try not to get hit and counter punch alot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Stevo105 wrote: »
    G.O.A.T = Greatest of all time.....easy it will not be. You have to block in this game and move your head, the last one FNR3 i didnt block at all....

    You need to think a bit one with this one and try not to get hit and counter punch alot
    Thank god for that. I couldn't understand why it was so unnecessarily hard. My brain just could work fast enough for it.
    nige1982 wrote:
    I got the game on friday, really like it much better than FNR3, takes longer to knock out the other player, the best thing about the game is you can downlad other users created boxers (xbox360 anyway) I have downloaded kimbo slice
    Rocky
    Klitchko
    Amir Khan
    Appollo Cread
    Barack obama

    Makes it more fun playing on line
    nige1982 is offline Report Post Reply With Quote

    I was about to download some of those boxers, but then realised that a lot of them are repeated, ie there's a load of Rocky's up there. And the pics of them aren't very clear at all, so it's hard to find one that really looks the part. Might have to just make my own (although, I made myself and it's just depressing seeing how I'd look if I actually bothered to looks after my body :( ).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭padair


    If anyone fancys a fight my userid is padair
    Maybe we shoule get a small tourney going.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭caspa307


    fn4 tourney sounds preety cool


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,283 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    a tournament would be class, but please let us get some practice in first...

    i went online for the first time last night, lasted til the 4th but got put down 3 times on the 1st.

    your man i was playing just kept driving into the body, sapping my stamina with every punch and every time i'd get the corner game all my points went on stamina leaving me very vulnerable as my health and damage were pretty badly beaten down.

    them tactics i tell ya...


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    i'm up for a tourney also but i'm in dire need of some more practice. i tried to create myself from my usb camera last nite, it looked somewhat like me except for one tiny flaw i'm pasty white in person but the ps3 made super black. i looked badass so i left it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭Stevo105


    I'd be up for some noob matches for practice on the PS3 on Wednesday evening if anybody is up for it....I also get my arse kicked on online


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Greyian


    I'm thinking of picking this game up today. I played the demo a lot (we're talking 50+ fights I'd say) and absolutely loved it. Can't wait to try some other boxers though. Anyone got any tips on where is the cheapest place to pick this up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭padair


    Stevo105 wrote: »
    I'd be up for some noob matches for practice on the PS3 on Wednesday evening if anybody is up for it....I also get my arse kicked on online

    What is your username. Mine is Padair. if you see me online drop me a bell and I will give you a fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,283 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    Finally I'm getting the hang of this game now!! :D

    I'm currently progressing very nicely in Legacy Mode on champion difficulty and have reached Superstar rating undefeated at 31-0 with 30 K.Os with the last 2 coming by way of 1st round K.O against Tyson and Joe Frazier

    Now to just get the next 20 fights out of the way to retire as the G.O.A.T and I'll be delighted. :D:D

    I'm using the tactics used by someone against me when I went online the first time and got demolished. Go for the body to sap the stamina, then go for the head. It ends fights so much faster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭Stevo105


    i can get champion in all the training games excluding the push bag (contender only)...and its the only game that increases your right hand :mad:

    Im finding my fights getting alot harder now..i have 20 wins with 20 KO's but my last 4 fight have been hand picked so im fight people under me..

    Im playing with the standard starting level, i havent changed it. i always play games on Normal (the difficulty level they are ment to be played at)

    I'm a light heavy weight...so i can go up a weight class later on :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭consultech


    Stevo105 wrote: »
    i can get champion in all the training games excluding the push bag (contender only)...and its the only game that increases your right hand :mad:

    Hit the heavy bag in 3 punch bursts, using head hooks for high zone when the top is lit, and body uppercuts for low punches when the bottom is lit, and keep pushing forward towards it. This makes sure you're only hitting the bag in error a maximum of two times if it changes. You'll have a grand champeen right hand if you do this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,283 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    My tip for the double end bag when your guy moves slightly faster than a snail at the beginning of youre legacy career is to simulate the training.

    You only get half points but if you keep doing this until youre up to the 70 mark, you should then go about it yourself as you will be more likely to get champion rating on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭Stevo105


    i find the double end bag very easy...just throw body uppercuts (the easiest punch to do and you get more points for it 500) remember you dont have to have both feet on the maker, one foot will do the job.

    i seen a guy on youtube using just haymakers for the push bag
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3HIhv_4p2w


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,283 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    Stevo105 wrote: »
    i find the double end bag very easy...just throw body uppercuts (the easiest punch to do and you get more points for it 500) remember you dont have to have both feet on the maker, one foot will do the job.

    i seen a guy on youtube using just haymakers for the push bag
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3HIhv_4p2w

    I've always had problems with it, basically because my guy moves like he's stuck in syrup. But if I simulate the training a few times it makes him slightly faster then I can usually get him up to Contender. Then a few more goes and I get Champion


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭Stevo105


    aaronh007 wrote: »
    I've always had problems with it, basically because my guy moves like he's stuck in syrup. But if I simulate the training a few times it makes him slightly faster then I can usually get him up to Contender. Then a few more goes and I get Champion

    Ok first of all, you can get champion even if your guys stats are at 50 ie first training game.. only use the body uppercut (stick down to the right) 500 points each punch. if the target is close throw 2 punches, if its too far just one punch. the trick here is to not miss any of the squaire/markers on the ground....if its 180 degrees away from you, start moving (dont change your mind which direction you travel once you start moving) and start to punch before your foot is on the maker(every a toe will do it, you dont need to have both feet on it)..... dont use any other punch only body uppercut...its a waste of points otherwise.

    I tried the increase power trick last night with the push bag...works like a charm thanks guys :)


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