Help me find an Airsoft Assault Rifle today

jimbling

Okay guys. I was planning on getting a sniper rifle, but recently changed my mind to getting an AEG Assault rifle.
With the laws on importing on the way I thought I might make the leap and get one sooner rather than later.

I know very little about airsoft, so I'm looking for some advice.

I don't even know which brands I should be considering. There are so many conflicting opinions online when you search that I'm just confused at this stage.

My Requirements:
Realism: The gun must be relatively realistic. I also like the idea of a mostly metal gun rather than plastic.

Accuracy/Power: Obviously I wish to have a gun that can be pretty accurate and with reasonable power (300fps+)

Skirmish: I probably will not be attending any meets etc, so the weight, ease of manoeuvrability or battery replacement etc are not really much of an issue.

Budget: Not a major issue. Probably in the region of about 500 all inclusive (i.e. battery+charger too). I obviously welcome ideas on much cheaper guns as long as they are well built and meet the requirements.

Gun Type:
I am most interested in any variants of the M16/M4.... or guns that look similar. e.g. saw this in an other post and think it's an savage looking gun:
G&P SR15 URX Medium

Basically, the gun must look and feel really good... with the added bonus of accuracy and power. That is all


So, basically.... with all that in mind. What would you get? What would you advise me to get? Where would you advise me to get it?

Maybe there are just too many options to choose from. If so, I'm looking for the best value for money.

All advice appreciated.....
J

bluestripe93

have you looked in the getting started bit

list of manufacturers http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055353667

list of retailers where you might buy a gun http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055353663

jimbling

bluestripe93 wrote: »

have you looked in the getting started bit

list of manufacturers http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055353667

list of retailers where you might buy a gun http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055353663

Ya, have read through those all right. Thanks.

bullets

If your not gonna skirmish with it, want realism, and M4 looks
then why not get an AGM M4 GBB.

As its gas blowback and metal bodied you have your realism.
a can of gas and your sorted as you wont have to worry about chargers/batteries etc.
and you wont have to worry about High Cap magazines etc as you wont be skirmishing with it.

~B

jimbling

Cheers bullets, that M4 looks like great value.

I wasn't planning on buying gas though, it seems a bit awkward, but I know very little about it. I did come across a post on a forum comparing this M4 with an AEG version:

here is the hard facts: gas guns are expensive to uphold and continue using, so don't get a gas unless you plan to use it a lot and seriously. Electrics are much less expensive in the long run, and more convenient

Is there any truth to this?

Spetzcong

jimbling wrote: »

Cheers bullets, that M4 looks like great value.

I wasn't planning on buying gas though, it seems a bit awkward, but I know very little about it. I did come across a post on a forum comparing this M4 with an AEG version:

here is the hard facts: gas guns are expensive to uphold and continue using, so don't get a gas unless you plan to use it a lot and seriously. Electrics are much less expensive in the long run, and more convenient

Is there any truth to this?

Yes and no, with a gas gun you'll need to keep yourself supplied with Gas, which costs more than just recharging a battery. You'll also need silicone oil, and you'll need to periodically strip/clean and oil your gun (much like the real thing).

For skirmishing they're less practical, and I definately wouldn't reccomend a gas M4 as a beginners skirmishing gun, however, you can't beat them for realism or for the fun of shooting them. In terms of skirmishing, a gas gun's biggest drawback is the expense of buying enough mags to make them viably skirmishable and the fact that no amount of 50 round mags is gonna help you when you're faced with a stubbykiller + boxmag wielding lunatic.

However, if you're looking for something that's going to be fun to shoot in your back yard, then the gas M4 has to be the most realistic and entertaining airsoft device you could get your hands on.

jimbling

Thanks for the advice lads, appreciated.

That m4 is definitely a strong contender. It has gotten very good reviews and definitely great value for money. I can get it for $115 on rsov.com.
What way does the customs etc work?

Captain Chaos

Form RSOV it will be the price of the gun + delivery charge + 25% of the total. You can find the delivery price by going to the checkout.

Or you can get it from Eirsoft.ie for €250 when its back in stock.

It's a great gun. I've put a few hundred bbs through it in the past few days.

I ordered an Army MEU last week from them. It was $58, delivery was $43 and I has to pay customs €22.16. On the 25% they did not convert from $-€, they took 25% of the $ amount and charged it in €.

jimbling

just noticed it is out of stock at RSOV as well.

Having a look at a few of the other sites:
Can someone tell me the difference between the AGM061 and the AGM062

It looks to me like the 062 model has some extras for the same price. Am I missing something?

Captain Chaos

The O61 version is a standard M4 with the plastic handguards, the 062 version comes with a metal RIS hand guard that you can mount things to like bipods, lasers, torches. It comes with a vertical fore grip and 3 rail covers to protect the rails when not used. The 062 also has a fake gas tube fitted inside the handguard for added visual realism but you can pick parts like these up later and add and remove them at will.

You can swap these out with aftermarket parts later so which ever version you pick you can turn it inot the other no problem.

jimbling

Captain Chaos wrote: »

The O61 version is a standard M4 with the plastic handguards, the 062 version comes with a metal RIS hand guard that you can mount things to like bipods, lasers, torches. It comes with a vertical fore grip and 3 rail covers to protect the rails when not used.

You can swap these out with aftermarket parts later

062 it is then

jimbling

After working out the figures, it looks like I could get the gun in from that site for about €180. Eirsoft will have it in two weeks for €250.

This response I got from Eirsoft when I asked about the price difference has me a bit worried about buying it at all.

EIRSOFT wrote:

The price difference is beacause gas guns are invariably a lot harder to maintain, and although the AGM is good quality, it is far more likely to develop a problem than an AEG.

I'm still totally confused by which type I want. GBB or AEG. I love the idea of the more realistic look and feel of the GBB, but harder to maintain is definitely something that doesn't sit too well with me :pac:

ravydavygravy

jimbling wrote: »

I'm still totally confused by which type I want. GBB or AEG. I love the idea of the more realistic look and feel of the GBB, but harder to maintain is definitely something that doesn't sit too well with me :pac:

I guess they mean harder to maintain for skirmishing - if its just going to look pretty and be used for plinking, surely it won't be that hard to look after?

Spetzcong

ravydavygravy wrote: »

I guess they mean harder to maintain for skirmishing - if its just going to look pretty and be used for plinking, surely it won't be that hard to look after?

Well there's more that could go wrong with it than your standard AEG, more moving parts, more complicated mags, more wear and tear on the internals. That's not to say that any of that stuff will go wrong, but it could. I wouldn't say that they're difficult to look after, you don't have to do much to keep them in good working order, an AEG on the other hand will hardly need looking after at all.

Puding

well an aeg does have an awfully lot of moving parts that interact, and one going wrong can cause a problem, but a correctly set up aeg gearbox not built of silly fps or silly rof with a sensible battery voltage is very reliable, a gbb i would say has less moving parts but the way these parts interact is very different to a aeg, you have a lot more metal against metal and a lot of kinetic force, metal catching onto metal on say the bolt catch,

jimbling

out of curiosity guys..... about how long do you get out of a can of gas?

Is it safe to leave the gun lying around for long periods with gas in it? If I pick the gun up 3 weeks later (after leaving it with gas in it) will it work right off the bat?

Probably very stupid questions, but alas... I know nothing.



I'm thinking of buying it on Eirsoft now instead of ordering from china, especially after seeing this stipulation on the site:

khmountain wrote:

All Airsoft Gun will be tested completely before delivery, we will not refund for any airsoft guns, so consider seriously before buying.

lol

Puding

pretty standard for any china soft product sold abroad