TG4's Movie Choices

Crotchety

Anyone else understand why TG4 show these semi-pornographic foreign movies each Friday night? What's that about.

Podge2k7

Do they still show the westerns?

European cinema is generally more open to sexuality in cinema as such you are more likely to find more sex than violence in a lot of European cinema.

Podge2k7

Podge2k7 wrote: »

Do they still show the westerns?

They show a western at about half nine and then a foreign film around midnight.

JimmyFloyd

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Anyone else understand why TG4 show these semi-pornographic foreign movies each Friday night? What's that about.

You lookin for some hardcore stuff instead?

Karl Hungus

I'd just add that a film having nudity, or sexuality, does not make it pornographic.

Mikey23

Fair play to them, imho, for getting a job lot of foreign flicks and not showing the same movies on a loop. This Friday's movie, Monsieur Klein, is pretty good for instance, and not likely to pop up on other channels' tired line-up.

bnt

It's very simple, and can be summed up in three words: "Anything But English". TG4 is a TV channel set up to combat the imperialist cultural hegemony of the English-speaking world. It's part of Dublin's search for a political and cultural identity to distance it from London, the same impulse that puts Irish on street signs and official documents, and forces all school students to learn it. If you didn't make this expensive effort to be different, why, Ireland would be just another piece of the British Isles, roysh? :cool:

uncleoswald

bnt wrote: »

It's very simple, and can be summed up in three words: "Anything But English". TG4 is a TV channel set up to combat the imperialist cultural hegemony of the English-speaking world. It's part of Dublin's search for a political and cultural identity to distance it from London, the same impulse that puts Irish on street signs and official documents, and forces all school students to learn it. If you didn't make this expensive effort to be different, why, Ireland would be just another piece of the British Isles, roysh? :cool:

Hmmm, interesting theory but that doesn't quite explain why the show westerns in English. Or shows such as Curb Your Enthusiasm. I think they have a very limited movie budget and make interesting choices instead of getting the usual made for tv dross.

parker kent

Yeah I agree with the people above, they are not really pornagraphic. European movies are always more open about nudity so it's not out of the ordinary for them. Once you get over the "oh my a boobie" thing, you can see that the films are really well made with good acting and stories. Lots of the films TG4 show are very good, you wouldn't often get a chance to see Monica Bellucci, Vincent Cassel and the likes on most other stations. Theres a new world cinema channel on Sky these days too, on 331. So there's a growing market for it here I guess.

Crotchety

They're not just boobies. A lot of them are fanny, penis and all.

parker kent

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They're not just boobies. A lot of them are fanny, penis and all.

That is true enough, european films are much more relaxed about nudity, instead you see much less graphic violence than you would in many US/British movies (Lars Von Trier not included!!). I guess it is just different people, different mindsets. Beaches in Europe are a great example of this, there it isn't unusual to see a topless or nude woman (or man) but here it's much, much less common. I guess TG4 show them at a time when the people that are up should be able to judge whether they approve or not.

topper75

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They're not just boobies. A lot of them are fanny, penis and all.

boobies, fannies -> 50% of all people have these
penis and all -> the other 50% of the people have these

so, where is the shock value in that?

I have to give credit to TG4 for their efforts at living up to their marketing slogan 'Súil Eile' (lit. another eye, an alternative perspective on things). How many other organizations really do that these days?

RTÉ are in a dross Lowest Common Denominator competition with the other channels these days sadly.

humanji

Karl Hungus wrote: »

I'd just add that a film having nudity, or sexuality, does not make it pornographic.

Sadly.

I love TG4's film choices. I love westerns and although some of the foreign language films they show are pap, they show some real gems too.

Crotchety

Karl Hungus wrote: »

I'd just add that a film having nudity, or sexuality, does not make it pornographic.

It could be considered so. It is what you make of it.

"1 in 5 men may find this film arousing and may not care for the storyline"

Nolanger

They should be showing more Irish movies FFS.

Karl Hungus

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It could be considered so. It is what you make of it.

"1 in 5 men may find this film arousing and may not care for the storyline"

No, it doesn't work that way. Pornography is designed with the sole purpose of sexual arousal and titillation, it's the intent of the film maker, not just what the viewer makes of it. Your interpretation of a film that contains nudity does not make it pornographic.

Crotchety

Right. But some of those foreign flick just might be made with the intention to arouse viewers.

Elmo

Nolanger wrote: »

They should be showing more Irish movies FFS.

They would run out of them eventually. I think RTÉ TWO have foreign movies on late nights no perhaps they have done away with that.

TG4 show plenty of English lanuage programming.

The Irish Film Board Channel should be up and running in the new year (well maybe not) but it is to be set up and part of the Public Service Mux on Digital Terrestrial TV. It will have a mix of Irish and European Movies, free of ads.

Karl Hungus

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Right. But some of those foreign flick just might be made with the intention to arouse viewers.

You'll need to give an example so. What film, in particular?

Crotchety

I don't know for sure. Only speculating.

Elmo

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I don't know for sure. Only speculating.

Lots of movies around the world use arrosial to bring in viewers it is a cheap trick. I don't think European movies are necessarly doing that. Perhaps we should ban all non-english speaking movies, because they might contain imagery that is not condusive to the Irish state of mind :rolleyes: www.ifco.ie for anything you would like to see banned because you got arroused and didn't understand why because the didn't speak in English.

Fysh

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I don't know for sure. Only speculating.

As far as I can tell, your suggestion is that one or more unspecified foreign film/s (that may or may not have ever been shown on TG4 late at night) may in fact be porn in disguise.

I feel compelled to ask: so?

If it is a film that has been or will be on TG4, you must be able to give us its title and we can discuss specifics. If it's not a film that has been or is expected to be aired on TG4 any time soon, it bears no relation to the thread.

Karl Hungus

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I don't know for sure. Only speculating.

You've actually no issue with any film that's been shown on TG4, but you're speculating that there may be foreign films that may include scenes of nudity, that you think could be considered pornographic depending on the viewer. So, you are in essence, talking sh*te and there's no actual film or films you're talking issue with? Sounds like you're just giving out about a perception you have of foreign films, "All dem youropeen filums, sure dey're nuttin' but sex I tells ya!"

Crotchety

I couldn't give you a name of one now. They're foreign and I wouldn't remember. The last time I was looking at them were months and years ago. They're still on though. Caught a few glimpses. On the ones I've seen there have been fellas lifting women up onto the bed and ripping their clothes off. Then proceeding to lick their bodies, rub their vaginas, oral, anal sex and give them baths etc.

I couldn't tell you what the title was as at the time I wasn't bothered but I will take note for the future. This week's film is about WW2. Don't know if there will be nudity present in it.