Whats your opinion on drugs and the OH??

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How much is too much? What do you consider a hard drug? does your partner take drugs? Would you take drugs with your partner etc

After a long heated discussion I still dunno where I stand, not sure alot of the ladies I was chatting with at the weekend do either!!

My fella has taken alot of drugs but now only smokes weed every now and again but never around me as I am totally anti drug, but would never stop someone from doing them and dont lecture etc. So i was asked how if i am so anti drugs how can i be with someone who has done drugs and now smokes occasionally.

He knows straight out never to around me and if he does anything else Im gone... and yes I know I am being hypocritical.... but at the end of the day he has his own life and does his own thing so who am I to control him?

Michellenman

Wouldn't bother me. As long as if I ask him not to smoke them around me and he complies then I don't really care. For soft drugs that is, it'd be different if he was addicted to Heroine, y'know?

WIZE

think about it this way :

If a person is intent on taking drugs they know the Health risks
What they don't know is how it affects the people who care about the user.
Drugs are a bad thing although I don't put smoking grass in the same league
The money spent on harder drugs is a selfish thing when it could be better spent on things that would improve your life and relationship

MJOR

I broke up with a guy because he was doing drugs. I have no tolerance for them in my life. My OH feels the same. I have a live and let lie attitude but not where drugs are concerned in my life. Have no objection to others but will not have them in my home or company

Lia_lia

When me and my boyfriend got together I was taking drugs quite frequently. He was too, but not as much as me. We used to take ecstasy a lot together and he would take drugs with the guys he lived with. But then last summer we both pretty much stopped. I guess we had seen how they had harmed people we know and my body just couldn't take it anymore really.

He still smokes weed a bit but I don't really care about that. I actually get more annoyed with him if he gets really drunk.

It depends on the person and how they see the drug in question I guess. If my boyfriend was going out taking coke every weekend I wouldn't be able to stay with him, but with weed I'd be grand. Other people could see weed as a reason to break up.

TheSprawl

Personally, I couldn't be with someone who was as ignorant as to be completely anti-drugs. (I'm a guy btw)

I couldn't be with a waster who did drugs to excess far too often either.

I would and do do drugs with my OH.

panda100

My last boyfriend definatly had an alcohol problem (so many Irish guys do!), which I was okay with as I could tell he was an nice and fun person without the drink. One night when we were out he did coke and only told me the week after. It freaked me out a lot as he didnt seem any differnt to me on the night, but the week following his coke night he was acting very strange to me. He was very aloof to me,his hands were very sweaty and there was a paranoid vibe of him.

That was my one and only experience of dating someone who does drugs and I wouldnt go back there.

I wouldnt mind him smoking weed ocassionally,its the harder drugs that freak me out.

jellie

id be interested to see other womens opinions on this..

when i met my ex he didnt touch anything, a lot of his friends did, he always said he hated it, got v upset about a friend taking pills one night. about a yr into our relationship he took half a pill when out without me & arrived home to me in a total state. in fairness he had drank a lot, but there was something different about him that made me ask if hed taken something, which i had never had any reason to ask before & never would have considered him doing. me in my innocence hadnt a clue what to do with him, was a pretty scary night for me. anyway, that started it all..

he didnt go near them for awhile, then we broke up for a bit. while we were apart hed done pills a good few more times. but i didnt want to be with someone who was into that so he promised he was done. but he wasnt and he kept going back to it, and then onto other stuff. anyway, eventually we broke up.

i hated the thought of him taking them. in fairness i am a worrier, i worry about everything. while he could tell me all he liked "theyre fine etc etc" the horror stories you hear would always come back to me. yes i know theyre probably just meant to scare you, but hey thats me. & then theres the whole aspect of never knowing exactly what youre taking.

in theory im with the people who say "its their body they can do what they want with it", cause yeah it is his body. but its different when its someone you love. i loved him and didnt want anything to harm him, and in my mind drugs had the potential to do that.

ive been speaking to him every now & then lately, for all sorts of stupid reasons, & hes in a "i miss you, lets get back together" phase. while its not actually possible cause too much crap happened there, if it WERE possible i would be telling him i wouldnt want him doing them anymore (although he claims he doesnt but it doesnt really matter at this stage.. )

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TheSprawl wrote: »

Personally, I couldn't be with someone who was as ignorant as to be completely anti-drugs.

Its unfair to assume while I am anti drugs that I am ignorant seeing as it would mean I would know nothing about drugs. While I am not claiming to be an expert, I have seen first hand the effects of drugs on family and friends and yes while the statistics will tell you 'its a 1 in ten case' and there is always the usual talk of 'must have been a bad trip' etc I feel I have seen the negative side of drugs and there for choose to not get involved with them. Maybe it is ignorance because I havnt taken drugs so there for dont know the positive effects.... know a dealer?!

Like some people choose to not to drink or abstain from sex I choose to not do drugs and to not be in the company of others who do them.

allabouteve

Not interested in someone whos off their face on anything, be it heroin, weed or alcohol.

Anyone else can do what they like and I won't judge, but no place for it in my life. I don't even drink though, so I suppose I'm one extreme.

Dragan

BVB wrote: »

think about it this way :

If a person is intent on taking drugs they know the Health risks
What they don't know is how it affects the people who care about the user.
Drugs are a bad thing although I don't put smoking grass in the same league
The money spent on harder drugs is a selfish thing when it could be better spent on things that would improve your life and relationship

LoL, what, like dinner and a few drinks?

Not everything needs to be put back into a relationship and people should be allowed to do what they want to do. As long as it does not have a negative impact on the relationship there is no problem.

If it starts to impact, then you need to figure out how to sort it.

Oh The Humanity

Although I've done everything myself in the past (bar heroin) I dont do much more than smoke weed and drink now. My BF likes a smoke too so happy days.

As much as I wouldn't go near a coke fiend, I could never be with a drug virgin either. I dont have any friends like that either although I do have siblings who are non drug users.

Its just a different lifestyle and although I am mostly retired I find people who have never taken drugs alien and slightly scary! You have to watch your P's and Q's with them!

Fugly

I have friends who do use drugs, thats their choice. But I'd never date a man who used, regardless of frequency or potentancy.

I have gotten flack from friends about it, saying as a gf I don't have the right to tell someone not to use. I agree but I have the right to choose not be with someone who uses. I also get the but alcohol is worse than weed arguement, for me I won't be with a man who drank excessively. I detest smoking, it turns my stomach in very real way so I wouldn't date a smoker weed/tobacco even if they didn't smoke around me.

I dated a friend {2yrs} I knew he had used previously, he knew my position and I never once forced/ bullied him into to dating me after we kissed at a party. He said he didn't use anymore, so after a couple of months of kissing we started to go out. We broke up in Jan of this year, in the following months I found out he smoked [both] when we were together. I was and am still hurt. he want to do so that was his choice but it's my choice to make an informed decision who I sleep with. He went out of his way to deceive me, which of course was the most hurtful part.

{sorry to ramble} He also cheated with a "friend" of ours, a violent drunk {she admits that herself} who had a fiance and drug problem and She is an overweight little person. I could not make this sh*t up. And I'll be honest the deception about smoking was just as hurtful as the infedelity.

TheSprawl

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Its unfair to assume while I am anti drugs that I am ignorant seeing as it would mean I would know nothing about drugs. While I am not claiming to be an expert, I have seen first hand the effects of drugs on family and friends and yes while the statistics will tell you 'its a 1 in ten case' and there is always the usual talk of 'must have been a bad trip' etc I feel I have seen the negative side of drugs and there for choose to not get involved with them. Maybe it is ignorance because I havnt taken drugs so there for dont know the positive effects.... know a dealer?!

Like some people choose to not to drink or abstain from sex I choose to not do drugs and to not be in the company of others who do them.

You said you were "totally anti-drugs", that's a different thing to choosing not to do them or associate with people who do them....

Oh The Humanity wrote: »

I find people who have never taken drugs alien and slightly scary! You have to watch your P's and Q's with them!

Yeah, I do too. Gotta be careful what you say around them. It's a mindset I have some difficultly understanding.

allabouteve

TheSprawl wrote: »

You said you were "totally anti-drugs", that's a different thing to choosing not to do them or associate with people who do them....


Yeah, I do too. Gotta be careful what you say around them. It's a mindset I have some difficultly understanding.

''Totally anti-drugs'' is not the equivelent of ''ignorant''.

Why would you have to be more careful around an anti-drugs person than anyone else? Would you be more careful talking about driving around someone who cycles everywhere?

I have difficulty understanding your mindset.

TheSprawl

I personally think that being totally anti-drugs is a bit ignorant, the same way I think being totally anti-religion or any other practice is also.

Live and let live.

Fugly

Its just a different lifestyle and although I am mostly retired I find people who have never taken drugs alien and slightly scary! You have to watch your P's and Q's with them![/quote]

Why? I drink, not to extremes. I've only been drunk once. I didn't get the appeal. I've never smoked or taken drugs. I know I sound like a *goody two shoes* but I just never saw the appeal. I do have fun, I find I do things sober that other people need drugs/drink to do. I've never understood why.

Also I find it odd that all of your friends fit into one Group so to speak. Although I prefer a mixed group in every way. :rolleyes: Sesame street has alot to answer for.

skywards

Having seen my family torn to bits by drugs and alcohol, there is not a snowballs chance in hell I'd date someone who used. However, I am not one of those people that insists on the "drugs are bad!" mantra and tries to force my view upon people. I just wouldn't date someone who did them..

TheSprawl

Fugly wrote: »

Why? I drink, not to extremes. I've only been drunk once. I didn't get the appeal. I've never smoked or taken drugs. I know I sound like a *goody two shoes* but I just never saw the appeal. I do have fun, I find I do things sober that other people need drugs/drink to do. I've never understood why.

Why do you assume that people who drink/do other drugs need them to do things?

They're just another enjoyable part of life. Doesn't mean you can't have fun doing things sober too though.

Fugly

Well I don't. I'm simply saying that is a common reason among drug users, a way to escape, feel social. "dutch courage" to hit on a girl. drink/drugs to relax. I know users who are chemists/pharmacologists and are among the most informed as one can be. However I still wouldn't.
I think anything that is moved from the "recreational" to the "need" category is unhealthy regardless of what it is; drugs, drink, dieting.

But like I say I'm not assuming all do.

BumbleB

Drugs is always a downward spiral it never ends good.Always avoided them like the plague.

Vibrant people don't take drugs of any description.

Chinafoot

TheSprawl wrote: »

I personally think that being totally anti-drugs is a bit ignorant, the same way I think being totally anti-religion or any other practice is also.

Live and let live.

I would consider myself anti-drugs too. And I'm perfectly happy to "live and let live", I just expect you to do your living away from me. It's not something that interests me. I've had first hand bad experiences of friends on drugs and I have no intention of experiencing that in a relationship. That's my choice to make, just like its your choice to take drugs.... it doesn't make me ignorant or narrow-minded. I'm not going to force my opinion on you, or tell you you shouldn't be doing it...but I'm also not going to get into a relationship with someone who uses drugs.

Would it be ignorant and narrow minded if I said I absolutely detested smoking and had no interest in dating someone who did it? I don't think so, in fact refusing to date a smoker is a fairly common thing these days. Why am I narrowminded and ignorant if I apply the same to drugs?

Also the watching your Ps and Q's comment...that's a pretty pathetic attitude. Just because someone isn't into drugs doesn't make them some prissy dickhead with no personality. So far the only small minded attitudes are not coming from the anti-drugs side.

Khannie

I think He-Man knows best.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gRCcCeLAdw

edit: Seriously though....alcohol is a drug, you just drink it instead of smoking it, and it's freely available. If you say you're "totally anti-drugs", you'd need to include alcohol in there, or somehow try to justify that it's not a drug.

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Chinafoot wrote: »

So far the only small minded attitudes are not coming from the anti-drugs side.

agree!!!

G86

I dated a guy last year who smoked weed daily, he didn't see it as an addiction but in my opinion it was. I liked him alot though and compromised by asking him not to do it around me and told him I didn't want to know about it, however he didn't agree and even at one stage lit up in my SHARED house without even asking me - completely inappropriate. In his opinion that was the way he was and he didn't want to hide it, which is fair enough, but he was very judgemental in the same way some posters here seem to be about the fact that I didn't agree with it. I was referred to as naive simply because I wasn't interested in smoking weed or associating myself with anyone who had to smoke it on a regular basis. I couldn't stay with him - it just wouldn't have worked out.

I don't think it could work to be honest, it's all well and good turning a blind eye but it's not always easy to do, no matter how much you like them. If he/she liked you enough then they'd quit for you.

I'm fairly anti drugs (let and let live, but do it away from me thanks) and wouldn't have any tolerance of an OH doing them to be completely honest. Not only would it make me v uncomfortable but it would probably mean we're not suited.
OH luckily doesn't do any, so it's all good

Bob the Seducer

Khannie wrote: »

I think He-Man knows best.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gRCcCeLAdw

edit: Seriously though....alcohol is a drug, you just drink it instead of smoking it, and it's freely available. If you say you're "totally anti-drugs", you'd need to include alcohol in there, or somehow try to justify that it's not a drug.

It's a legal one though, which means that its far less likely you're going to end up with people who are from or associate with known criminal families/gangs in your life because you like a pint from time to time!

Dragan

BumbleB wrote: »

Drugs is always a downward spiral it never ends good.Always avoided them like the plague.

Vibrant people don't take drugs of any description.

LoL, hundreds of thousands of peoplel live perfectly normal lives everyday even though they do drugs. Addiction is a far bigger issue than just the substance or thing that the person is addicted to.

I know people who have destroyed their lives and health because they were addicted to the jobs.

Look, it's fair to say that you don't like the concept of drugs ( illegal ones that is ) and what they do. Thats fine, but the idea that anyone who touches them will end up destroying themselves is just foolish.

And the simple generalisation of your last sentence is hardly worth touching on.

sam34

G86 wrote: »

If he/she liked you enough then they'd quit for you.

i dont like use of illicit drugs, and would not go out with someone who's into them.

thats my choice, and it is my right to choose.

however, i dont agree with your sentence above. i dont think anyone has a right to demand or emotionally blackmail anyone with the "if you liked me enough you'd do x/y/z" argument. if you and your OH cannot agree on an issue like this which means such a lot to both of you, then it may be irreconcilable.

as a comparison, imagine the outrage if someone came into the ladies lounge and said their boyfriend was asking them to perform a particular sexual act which they didnt want to do, and he was putting on the pressure saying "if you really loved me you'd ...". its the sort of thing said by teenage lads to their g/f's. (and probably by older lads who retain a teenage mindset). everyone would be up in arms, saying it was unreasonable of him, and she shouldnt do anything she didnt want to do etc.

it is juvenile, manipulative reasoning, imo, and has no place in an adult relationship.

Xiney

I'm not anti-weed, I'm pretty much pro-legalization and all that.

But I'm also just about the biggest square on the face of the planet, and I'm totally fine with that. If my husband smoked weed over at a friend's house once or twice a year that'd be alright, but since he doesn't even do that I'm happy as well.

Anything "more" than weed and it wouldn't work out full stop.

liah

BumbleB wrote: »

Drugs is always a downward spiral it never ends good.Always avoided them like the plague.

Vibrant people don't take drugs of any description.

That's the silliest thing I've ever heard. For many, drugs can be part of your normal life and not lead you on any "downward spiral." Professors, scientists, astronomers, philosophers, doctors.. any profession you can think of has had drug users. Some of the most amazing, well-rounded people in the world have done or do drugs.

And "vibrant people don't take drugs of any description?" Are you going?

Guess musicians, artists, philosophers, writers, etc. are horribly dull.

I don't care if people are against drugs but if you're going to be against them be against all of them-- alcohol included. People who think things like marijuana are horrible drugs and then go off and get plastered drunk do my nut in, considering alcohol is a more dangerous drug than marijuana.

I just don't like hypocrites or ignorance I suppose.

Anyway, I wouldn't care what drugs a guy was doing as long as he was still a productive member of society, had his head about him, and wasn't addicted. I'd prefer him not to be on heroin, meth, cocaine or many other chemicals though, at least not on a consistent basis. Once in awhile is okay, but chemicals tend to be highly physically damaging. Naturals like marijuana and hash are fine for daily use or weekly use and I'd have absolutely no issue with. Natural hallucinogenics aren't as bad as most chemicals but being on mushrooms or peyote on a consistent basis I might have trouble with.

It depends highly on the individual and how well he knows how to control himself. It's like anything else. I don't want someone who's going to over-eat, over-drink, play videogames too often, whatever. Moderation and knowledge is key.

tribulus

When I was younger I wouldn't have cared but now it would bother me.

I don't think I'd go out with someone who was out on big sessions (alcohol) every weekend, definitely not with someone who smoked, nor other drugs.

Those lifestyles or pastimes just don't appeal to me and I'd find it hard for a girl involved in any of them to be appealing to me, in the long run.

liah

Also, can we please stop with this "need drugs to enjoy yourself" or "had to smoke weed" crap?

Give me a break, will ya? That's a hugely childish argument. Just because someone does drugs or even drinks alcohol doesn't mean they require it to have a good time. It's just a different way to have fun, like how going to a comedy festival or hanging out with your mates is a different kind of fun than riding a roller coaster or skydiving.

liah

liah wrote: »

Also, can we please stop with this "need drugs to enjoy yourself" or "had to smoke weed" crap?

Why? If the guy felt he had to smoke it daily, no matter where he was, and got aggressive or defensive about it, then saying "had to smoke it" sounds entirely apt to me?

Give me a break, will ya? That's a hugely childish argument. Just because someone does drugs or even drinks alcohol doesn't mean they require it to have a good time. It's just a different way to have fun

Yeah an illegal kind
Frankly if someone was going to skydiving or rollercoasters obsessively every day then I'd say they might have a problem too

liah

bluewolf wrote: »

Why? If the guy felt he had to smoke it daily, no matter where he was, and got aggressive or defensive about it, then saying "had to smoke it" sounds entirely apt to me?


Yeah an illegal kind
Frankly if someone was going to skydiving or rollercoasters obsessively every day then I'd say they might have a problem too

The problem I'm having is that people who say that seem to think that all recreational drug users HAVE to have it in their lives because they can't have fun without it, which is untrue.

By your last sentence you're also implying that all drug users are addicts, which is about as far from the case as you can possibly get.

mardybumbum

Would the "anti drug" crowd here date someone who consumed alcohol, caffeine drinks, or paracetamol?
Or is it just the drugs that our government deem unsuitable you have a problem with?

liah

liah wrote: »

By your last sentence you're also implying that all drug users are addicts, which is about as far from the case as you can possibly get.

Oh am I now? You want to explain that one to me?
You referred at the start of your post (I assume) to g86's post in which she talked about an ex having to smoke it every day. Yes, there are different types of fun, but if he'd been going skydiving every day it would have been a problem also.
Making this random leap to "stop being mean to all drug users"... come off it.

liah

bluewolf wrote: »

Oh am I now? You want to explain that one to me?
You referred at the start of your post (I assume) to g86's post in which she talked about an ex having to smoke it every day. Yes, there are different types of fun, but if he'd been going skydiving every day it would have been a problem also.
Making this random leap to "stop being mean to all drug users"... come off it.

Yes, else you would've realized that I was just done saying "all things in moderation" before I made my post about roller coasters and skydiving.

I doubt her ex "had" to smoke weed every day. He probably just enjoyed it and she was probably overreacting to the use of a drug she doesn't understand, and he stood up to her about his lifestyle and choices, wanted to continue being his own person, and didn't want to be controlled or coerced into stopping an enjoyable activity-- and she thought it was because he was "addicted" which I doubt is the case considering weed is notoriously easy to come away from.

But I wasn't referring to her post anyway, or at least not specifically her post. Couple other posters have said things along those lines and it's just a ridiculously stupid argument considering the percentage of people who "have" to have it in their lives is a handful in the grand spectrum of drugs. The majority of users are fine. It's a small few who give it a bad rep. Like alcohol, or pitbulls, or gun owners.

Xiney

ladies, cool it a bit please.

liah

liah wrote: »

I doubt her ex "had" to smoke weed every day. He probably just enjoyed it and she was probably overreacting to the use of a drug she doesn't understand, and he stood up to her about his lifestyle and choices, wanted to continue being his own person, and didn't want to be controlled or coerced into stopping an enjoyable activity-- and she thought it was because he was "addicted" which I doubt is the case considering weed is notoriously easy to come away from.

Why? Why is it your assumption that she has to be some kind of control freak rather than acknowledging that someone who insists on smoking it every day, in a foreign house where they have been already asked to refrain? Where anyone with simple manners would probably refrain?
The amount of fingerpointing and accusations you're doing/making at her to justify this guy smoking it every day and in someone else's house...
She even said she compromised and promised to turn a blind eye if he just didn't do it around her and he refused.
I see nothing control freakish in her behaviour or handling of the situation there and I'm genuinely wondering at the post you just made

MagicMarker

I'd find it unattractive if a girl I was with smoked weed, just like i'd find it unattractive if she smoked cigarettes. Funnily enough, I've never been with either.

I'd find it more unattractive if a girl got shít faced every weekend.

liah

bluewolf wrote: »

Why? Why is it your assumption that she has to be some kind of control freak rather than acknowledging that someone who insists on smoking it every day, in a foreign house where they have been already asked to refrain? Where anyone with simple manners would probably refrain?
The amount of fingerpointing and accusations you're doing/making at her to justify this guy smoking it every day and in someone else's house...
She even said she compromised and promised to turn a blind eye if he just didn't do it around her and he refused.
I see nothing control freakish in her behaviour or handling of the situation there and I'm genuinely wondering at the post you just made

The reason I made it was simply because he didn't try to hide it.

It sounds like he wanted to show her it was a part of who he was and it was a passtime he enjoyed and took part in and that was just how it was. He didn't want to have to be forced to hide it from her. I know I wouldn't want to have to sneak around behind my OH's back because I wanted to keep doing something I'd done for years, regardless of whether it was a drug or a glass of wine or a jigsaw puzzle.

Just the way her post was written made it seem like she just simply didn't understand the drug and instead of trying to understand it, its effects, and trying to understand his point of view, she'd rather've put her fingers in her ears and covered her eyes and pretended it wasn't happening and then gave the "my way or the highway/if you loved me you'd quit for me" ultimatum. Why was she with him in the first place if she knew he did drugs anyway..?

I do agree that lighting up INSIDE a shared house that he didn't rent/own was rude and disrespectful, however. But I doubt that was the only issue.

Regardless, it wasn't even the only post I was referring to; you brought that one up, so I looked it up and replied. Don't see why that's hard to understand..?

Odysseus

liah wrote: »

and she thought it was because he was "addicted" which I doubt is the case considering weed is notoriously easy to come away from.

Just on that point, I have worked in the treatment for over 12 years now; just to point out that I have no issues with recreational drug use in my experience its from from easy to give up if you a long-term daily user. I find it to be quite an insidous drug, I have been making this point for years that some of my more interesting clinical work is around those who just use hash.

The fact that someone is using it daily would suggest some form of addiction, and its only when people try to stop they realise this. Of course there are those who just stop, but dependency on it is much more common than people think.

liah

Odysseus wrote: »

Just on that point, I have worked in the treatment for over 12 years now; just to point out that I have no issues with recreational drug use in my experience its from from easy to give up if you a long-term daily user. I find it to be quite an insidous drug, I have been making this point for years that some of my more interesting clinical work is around those who just use hash.

The fact that someone is using it daily would suggest some form of addiction, and its only when people try to stop they realise this. Of course there are those who just stop, but dependency on it is much more common than people think.

I used to smoke it daily when it was available to me and I never had any trouble going cold turkey when I went overseas to where it was illegal, scarce, and far more expensive. I come from Canada, and basically everyone I know smokes weed there but has never had a problem stopping for whatever reason.

The reason you've probably seen more people "addicted" to weed here is that a) it's more popular than harder drugs so there's more of it and b) weed here tends to be far from pure compared to other places, I'd be more wary of what's in it being addictive than the actual pure drug itself.

Many, many, many studies on marijuana indicate that it itself isn't an addictive drug. It just lends itself well to addictive personalities, such as videogames or alcohol would, in which case it would be inevitable that the user would have something wrong with them and marijuana just enabled it. They could have got addicted to anything.

But I'm speaking from a purist weed point of view. I don't smoke weed in Ireland often because it's dirty and laced with a lot of things, and not to mention mixed with cigarette innards which probably would do well to lead to an addiction, too; they associate the addiction with the marijuana when in all probability it's an addiction to the nicotine they're mixing it with.

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mardybumbum wrote: »

Would the "anti drug" crowd here date someone who consumed alcohol, caffeine drinks, or paracetamol?
Or is it just the drugs that our government deem unsuitable you have a problem with?

i think there is a line between paracetamol and other pain killers and drugs such as coke. so i think its an unfair question to put to people but i see where your coming from. and i think while yes paracetamol and other pain killers can lead to addiction and in worst case death the fact its controlled it is less of a danger ie for supplies sellers users etc.
I spent alot of time in amsterdam so i grew up around people smoking joints etc so maybe thats why i dont see the appeal in it because i never thought it was a big deal.
i have sat in on a few 'legalise' meetings( I wanted to get informed, so I wouldnt be ignorant on the topic) and maybe it would be alot safer and better for everyone involved if weed was legalised. that said I still wouldnt consume it.

Lollipops23

my OH has done hash and coke a few times,it didn't bother me when he told me.we've bothed smoked a bit since we got together but niether make a habit of it(and haven't done it in at least a yr). wouldn't be all that perturbed if he told me he smoked over the weekend though,i just don't think it's that big a deal.

however,my ex was quite into coke, pills and MDMA. He did at least one of them every weekend, and while i didn't see him off his face too many times, it did scare me a bit and made me somewhat nervous. He was actually arrested for possession shortly after me broke up:rolleyes: the worst thing is,he's really a lovely guy and very smart,which is such a pity.

Odysseus

liah wrote: »

I used to smoke it daily when it was available to me and I never had any trouble going cold turkey when I went overseas to where it was illegal, scarce, and far more expensive. I come from Canada, and basically everyone I know smokes weed there but has never had a problem stopping for whatever reason.

The reason you've probably seen more people "addicted" to weed here is that a) it's more popular than harder drugs so there's more of it and b) weed here tends to be far from pure compared to other places, I'd be more wary of what's in it being addictive than the actual pure drug itself.

Many, many, many studies on marijuana indicate that it itself isn't an addictive drug. It just lends itself well to addictive personalities, such as videogames or alcohol would, in which case it would be inevitable that the user would have something wrong with them and marijuana just enabled it. They could have got addicted to anything.

But I'm speaking from a purist weed point of view. I don't smoke weed in Ireland often because it's dirty and laced with a lot of things, and not to mention mixed with cigarette innards which probably would do well to lead to an addiction, too; they associate the addiction with the marijuana when in all probability it's an addiction to the nicotine they're mixing it with.

To be fair Liah, you make valid points, however, the are plently of studies which state that it is addictive addictive too. The point around nicotine is also valid, but then again alot with a lot of the cases I worked with the subject where still smoking so getting nicotine. Very few professionals [none that I know] buy into the addictive personality, though of course their is something within the person. However, those like you who can just stop never make it into my clinic.

rainbow kirby

I wouldn't mind if someone smoked weed occasionally, but if someone was taking anything stronger, or was an extremely heavy drinker, or a 10+ cigarettes a day smoker, it would really bother me.

lizzyvera

I have no time, whatsoever, for people who are "anti drugs" but drink or smoke tobacco.

I don't think many people would know that I use a lot of drugs unless I told them, and I talk about it freely because I think the taboo is just silly. It's an enjoyable part of my life. I do well in college, I have lots of hobbies, I haven't even had a cold in a few years.

I prefer psychadelics to drink and weed, I don't really need anything for nights out/in, but nothing can possibly ever ever ever compare to the magic of LSD. Ever. I am a very happy person, totally in love, doing well in life, love my job, love college, love my friends. I haven't gone back to the way I was before I took it, and I mean that in a good way. I get embarrassed explaining why I like it to people who haven't tried it because it sounds daft, but people who have just "know". It's more of a spiritual experience than anything else, although it also heightens the senses ridiculously, all my senses tingle ooooh it's amazing. It has certainly done me more good than harm and made me even happier.

It's not about "dutch courage" or just getting out of yer head for the sake of it, and you can't do it to escape if you're unhappy because you'll see demons in the clouds etc. It's nothing like alcohol. I think alcohol users assume all drugs are in a similar vein "get you completely mashed deadly buzz" but not so. Most have a much cleaner, clearer feel.

it has also given me and the OH an even closer bond, which only we understand. It happened months ago and it's still there. I think seeing that stuff and feeling those absolutely out of this world hour long orgasms together might be something to do with it.

allandanyways

Just from a personal viewpoint, I don't think anything that can alter your perceptions is a good thing for the most part but my whole reason as to why I disagree with my OH doing any kind of illegal drugs is because of the way he is, even when he drinks.

I have seen a good few friends, who are really nice, happy, standard people who turn into absolute **** and bitches when they're high, on weed or on coke or whatever. They give people verbal abuse and get into fights and a number of stupid things aggravated by the fact that they were out of their heads on illegal drugs and their perceptions were altered and they didn't have the right idea about themselves. They can be the same when drunk, but I've seen some of them worse than any time they've been locked on alcohol after taking illegal drugs, whatever the reason may be.

One girl I know passed out one night purely out of being so coked up she could barely move and I tried to help her home and she nearly cut me with a broken glass for trying to help her, she thought I was attacking her.

And again, a guy I know very well from college beat the sh1t out of his girlfriend from smoking so much weed that he didn't know left from right, gf got tired and pissed off and he beat the crap out of her when she tried to leave the house, saying that she was ruining his fun.

I've never touched illegal drugs once in my life, I've drank and smoked but even now, I'm beginning to lose the attraction to alcohol, not because it's also a "drug" but because it alters your perceptions. Think of all the stupid stuff that you've done when you're locked. I'm not proud of some of the things I've said and things I've done when locked or whatever and my OH is an arsehole when he gets really drunk.

I understand that sometimes people have problems and they use drugs, whether they be illegal or not, to give them a release, but I just don't agree with them and I dont like my boyfriend doing drugs or drinking excessively because he turns into an arsehole, as do I when I'm out of it.

It's just a matter of personal preference/opinion. Some people don't mind OH doing drugs as long as it's not around them, some people do drugs with their OH and some people prefer that they just don't do it at all. If you're pro-drug there's no point attacking someone who's anti-drug, just for having an opinion. Drugs (alcohol incl.) have caused alot of trouble and hurt and problems for millions of people, just because people are anti-drug doesn't mean they're uptight, alot of people have lost family members and friends because of drugs, myself included. Don't assume people are just uptight and self-righteous because they don't want to completley lose themselves in something that can completley alter their perception of everything around them.

MagicMarker

lizzyvera wrote: »

I have no time, whatsoever, for people who are "anti drugs" but drink or smoke tobacco.

I don't think many people would know that I use a lot of drugs unless I told them, and I talk about it freely because I think the taboo is just silly. It's an enjoyable part of my life. I do well in college, I have lots of hobbies, I haven't even had a cold in a few years.

I prefer psychadelics to drink and weed, I don't really need anything for nights out/in, but nothing can possibly ever ever ever compare to the magic of LSD. Ever. I am a very happy person, totally in love, doing well in life, love my job, love college, love my friends. I haven't gone back to the way I was before I took it, and I mean that in a good way. I get embarrassed explaining why I like it to people who haven't tried it because it sounds daft, but people who have just "know". It's more of a spiritual experience than anything else, although it also heightens the senses ridiculously, all my senses tingle ooooh it's amazing. It has certainly done me more good than harm and made me even happier.

It's not about "dutch courage" or just getting out of yer head for the sake of it, and you can't do it to escape if you're unhappy because you'll see demons in the clouds etc. It's nothing like alcohol. I think alcohol users assume all drugs are in a similar vein "get you completely mashed deadly buzz" but not so. Most have a much cleaner, clearer feel.

it has also given me and the OH an even closer bond, which only we understand. It happened months ago and it's still there. I think seeing that stuff and feeling those absolutely out of this world hour long orgasms together might be something to do with it.

Oh yeah, that isn't unhealthy at all.

Replace ''LSD'' in that post with ''Beer'', and you'll see what I mean.