OUT OF BOUND RULE

Dylan69

Question:

Is it better to be in a better position to have put the ball in out of bound than it is to place it in the rough and not been able to find it.
:mad:
My question is that is a out of bound shot a 1 stroke penalty or 2 stroke penalty?

Do you tee up again as 3rd shot form the tee box or take the drop as a 3rd shot where the ball cross over the boundary.

I do know its a one stroke penalty if it lands in the water but out of bounds...not 100% sure!!!

JCDUB

You tee the ball up again from the tee box (or drop a ball if you're on the fairway or in the rough) and take your third shot.
You don't go to where the ball went O.B. and drop there.

PhilipMarlowe

Lost ball and OOB are the same evilness.
For each you have a stroke and distance penalty. The penalty is only one shot for each (the same as going into a water hazard) but the difference between them and water is that you have to play your next shot from where you hit the previous shot.
So 1st shot off the tee goes OOB, penaly of 1 shot, play 3rd again from the tee.
If you hit a tee shot in play but can't find it, you have to return to the tee and play your 3rd from the tee. That's why when you hit into somewhere dodgy that you may not be able to find it, you are allowed to play a provisional ball so that in the event of you not finding the original, you don't have to take that lonely walk back to the tee but continue to play the provisional ball.

stockdam

I'd suggest that you download the rules of golf and read them.

If you hit a ball OOB then it's stroke and distance. In other words you are penalised one shot on top of what you have already played and then you must hit again from where you last hit. If you see that your ball is close to the OOB or else see it go in then you should declare a provisional ball and hit another one. If you then find the original ball in play then you lift the provisional; if it's OOB then you don't have to go back as your provisional is now in play.

ozymandias10

Licksy wrote: »

Lost ball and OOB are the same evilness.
For each you have a stroke and distance penalty. The penalty is only one shot for each (the same as going into a water hazard) but the difference between them and water is that you have to play your next shot from where you hit the previous shot.
So 1st shot off the tee goes OOB, penaly of 1 shot, play 3rd again from the tee.
If you hit a tee shot in play but can't find it, you have to return to the tee and play your 3rd from the tee. That's why when you hit into somewhere dodgy that you may not be able to find it, you are allowed to play a provisional ball so that in the event of you not finding the original, you don't have to take that lonely walk back to the tee but continue to play the provisional ball.

is the correct answer...also if you find the ball and it is within the boundary of the course you have the following options...play as it lies.....take an uplayable and go back as far as you like keeping the line of the pin........take a two club length drop not nearer the hole....replay the shot from your original point

Dylan69

ozymandias10 wrote: »

is the correct answer...also if you find the ball and it is within the boundary of the course you have the following options...play as it lies.....take an uplayable and go back as far as you like keeping the line of the pin........take a two club length drop not nearer the hole....replay the shot from your original point

Oz,
If i find the ball and whatever options i choose, i still be taking the third shot out, correct!
Thanks, it starting to make sense, some of the lads on the golf course must have been talking ****e when they said if they can find the ball on out of bound, they can play it.
I'm not for one to agrue with a player if there a sticky point or an issue with penalties!! I just let them get on with it as i have my own game to look after.
I know im bound to make sure people play by the rules!!:o

ozymandias10

Out of bounds and you replay from your original point taking a penalty stroke

In bounds and you don't play as it lies then you incur a penalty stroke...benefit of finding the ball is that your 3rd shot is being taken from a further on point and you might be able to reach the green

hope that makes sense for ya

Dylan69

ozymandias10 wrote: »

Out of bounds and you replay from your original point taking a penalty stroke

In bounds and you don't play as it lies then you incur a penalty stroke...benefit of finding the ball is that your 3rd shot is being taken from a further on point and you might be able to reach the green

hope that makes sense for ya

Oz, make perfect sense, i had an idea but never was 100% sure.

Thanks

Sandwich

Do you not just drop a ball somewhere near where the ball went out of bounds and play on? Although I have heard some say you have to add a penalty stroke as well, but that seems unfair so I never do.





Or have I been playing in scrambles lately with too many society golfers?

Par72

Sandwich wrote: »

Or have I been playing in scrambles lately with too many society golfers?

Yes

GreeBo

Sandwich wrote: »

Do you not just drop a ball somewhere near where the ball went out of bounds and play on? Although I have heard some say you have to add a penalty stroke as well, but that seems unfair so I never do.





Or have I been playing in scrambles lately with too many society golfers?

EEK!

Licksy wrote:

that's why when you hit into somewhere dodgy that you may not be able to find it, you are allowed to play a provisional ball so that in the event of you not finding the original, you don't have to take that lonely walk back to the tee but continue to play the provisional ball.

Note that if you find your first ball and decide that its unplayable and there is no where suitable to drop, you cannot use the provisional. You must go back and hit a 3rd ball off the tee (for your 3rd stroke)

Essentially once you find your first ball (in bounds) then your provo is no longer in play.
I see this a lot where people carve one into the woods, hit a provo, go look for the first one and find it in a tree and then continue with the provo.
The golden rule is dont look for it if you dont want to find it there!
(you can of course not declare your second ball a provo and thus it becomes the ball in play even if you find your first one sitting pretty somewhere (unless its in the cup in which case the hole was over and you use the score from the first ball.))

Simple huh?

stockdam

Sandwich wrote: »

Do you not just drop a ball somewhere near where the ball went out of bounds and play on? Although I have heard some say you have to add a penalty stroke as well, but that seems unfair so I never do.

I think we need a sarcastic or "I'm not being serious" font.

I think it's ok to drop a ball down your trouser leg or to use a tee to tee it up in the rough.

Mister Sifter

Sandwich wrote: »

Do you not just drop a ball somewhere near where the ball went out of bounds and play on? Although I have heard some say you have to add a penalty stroke as well, but that seems unfair so I never do.

Or have I been playing in scrambles lately with too many society golfers?

I'm the same. It's not my fault that the golf course owner didn't buy enough land. Don't see why i should pay for his tightfistedness. If i knock it out of bounds i just give myself a par and move on to the next hole.

L.O.F.T

Graeme1982 wrote: »

I'm the same. It's not my fault that the golf course owner didn't buy enough land. Don't see why i should pay for his tightfistedness. If i knock it out of bounds i just give myself a par and move on to the next hole.

I think your quoting from the seniors rule book

soundsham

some handy golfers here:D

boards day out should be good:rolleyes:

and the winner with 48pts:eek: is ...............

Degag

Question: Why can golfers go literally a hundred yards off line and not go out of bounds in pro tournies like the US Open last week?

soundsham

eehh!!
because they are still in bounds;)

Trampas

*** Waiting on Conno16 to say what he does ***

f22

Trampas wrote: »

*** Waiting on Conno16 to say what he does ***

He must be barred or doing his junior cert!

Degag

soundsham wrote: »

eehh!!
because they are still in bounds;)

Eh yeah but do they have an out of bounds area in pro golf? In all my years watching it, i don't think i've seen anybody go in it.

GreeBo

Degag wrote: »

Eh yeah but do they have an out of bounds area in pro golf? In all my years watching it, i don't think i've seen anybody go in it.

Yes they have out of bounds, but you are confusing the fact that there are hospitality tents between some holes with an internal out of bounds. I dont think Ive ever seen an internal OOB in a pro tournament.
Them hitting it into a tent is the same as you or I hitting it onto another fairway other than the one we are playing.
Personally I think internal OOB is silly and dont like them ,if u want a hazard there put one there....

soundsham

Degag wrote: »

Eh yeah but do they have an out of bounds area in pro golf? In all my years watching it, i don't think i've seen anybody go in it.

don't know what golf you've been watching?

all down the right of the 18th in saint andrews is a simple example
also the 17th there.......quote"The attacking line from the tee is to take the ball on the last letters of the word "HOTEL" from the logo or even right of this if you have a big drive. With a carry of 180 - 220 yards, depending on your bravery, the desired landing area is on the right side of the fairway. This does bring into play the Out of Bounds wall that separates the green shed, the hotel garden and the Jigger Inn Pub from the fairway, but your aggressive play will reward you with a simpler approach shot to the raised, thin sliver of a green."
back of 18th @ carnoustie, can you not remember the white picket fence.....harrington went out of bounds there in a previous amateur event....it was mentioned enough times that weekend!

thats just 2 or 3 very obvious ones and there are lots more

also there were some internal out of bounds in liverpool

L.O.F.T

soundsham wrote: »

don't know what golf you've been watching?

back of 18th @ carnoustie, can you not remember the white picket fence.....harrington went out of bounds there in a previous amateur event....it was mentioned enough times that weekend!

also there were some internal out of bounds in liverpool

Carnoustie has many, and I found them!

''Greenbo: Personally I think internal OOB is silly and dont like them ,if u want a hazard there put one there....''
Its not always possible to have hazards defining course boundries, hence white posts defining where the course begins and public / private property ends or where you are no longer on the course

DonkeyPokerTour

GreeBo wrote: »

Personally I think internal OOB is silly and dont like them ,if u want a hazard there put one there....

Sometimes internal out of bounds is necessary for protection. If you dont have oob there then people could play up the wrong fairway on purpose possibly endangering people playing in the opposite direction.

On my home course wicklow, the 18hole is OOB while playing the 10th. If it wasn't I would always drive down the 18fairway and it would leave a wedge to a wide open green, making it a very easy hole. However because its oob you have to drive between a shoot of trees, avoid a bunker and be on the left hand side of the fairway to have a shot at an elevated green Guarded by deep bunkers and a small stream. This hole is index 1 in wicklow!

GreeBo

DonkeyPokerTour wrote: »

Sometimes internal out of bounds is necessary for protection. If you dont have oob there then people could play up the wrong fairway on purpose possibly endangering people playing in the opposite direction.

While I can see why its there in this case, I still dont think its necessary. We have a similar hole in my club, though going down the "wrong" fairway is not an easy shot by any means.
If I happen to hook it down the wrong fairway I just yell FORE like I do any other time I hit one down the wrong fairway...
There is a sign asking you to not deliberately use the wrong fairway...:o

PhilipMarlowe

In Callan when you play the 2nd hole it dog-legs right (dangerously around the first green). They have some mad rule there that any ball ending up on the right hand side of a line between the two holes has to be taken back to a dropping zone. So instead of a potential advantage of cutting off the corner you have to drop it way back... crap design anyway.