New Building in Ferrybank (Not the Shopping Centre)

lassykk

I was driving from Abbey Park towards town and I noticed a huge building being constructed in the grounds of the Abbey Community College/Convent. Is this a massive extension to the school or is it something else?

Is construction active on the site or has it been abandoned in the recession?

well butty

lassykk wrote: »

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A residential home for the religious. Spending the money before it is taken from them!! :):)

lassykk

your taking the piss? It's huge?

I assume that you mean its a new convent so? or what does a residential home for the religious entail?

well butty

lassykk wrote: »

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See Waterford City Council planning file number 08/81. Holiday home for the Religious!!!

mike65

A perverts hostel? :eek:

lassykk

well butty wrote: »

See Waterford City Council planning file number 08/81. Holiday home for the Religious!!!

Thanks for that... Googled exactly what you wrote and gave me details.

No shortage of funds in the Little Sisters of the Poor!!!

Seems a bit extreme considering the fall in the number of nuns in the locality.

Most of them have been re-housed in the vicinity as far as I know.

mike65 wrote: »

A perverts hostel? :eek:

Dodgy, dodgy territory

Queue the stampede of the ultra PC brigade. Will we bad-mouth the traffic corps in this thread as well just to spice things up

well butty

The Religious did say they had to look after their own!!

Sully

mike65 wrote: »

A perverts hostel? :eek:

Please clarify your statement. Thanks.

Mod Warning: Two stupid comments so far regarding religious folk. Leaving the humour aside, I wont be letting such posts continue in this thread as its not appropriate/fair regardless of recent reports. Thanks.

BBM77

It is not just for religious. The home in Manor Hill is moving to Ferrybank. The site on Manor Hill has been considered unsuitable for years now because of the perched on a hillside nature of the site.

well butty

Ballybrickenman wrote: »

It is not just for religious. The home in Manor Hill is moving to Ferrybank. The site on Manor Hill has been considered unsuitable for years now because of the perched on a hillside nature of the site.

A number of the residents on Manor Hill have been there since they were children, unable to integrate back into society

lassykk

Yeah from discussions locally (slieverue) I was told that its not just a religious thing at all. Its a home for the elderly which is run by the Little Sisters of the Poor.

Not sure where the funding for this came from but its great to see provisions being put in place for the elderly who haven't the means to look after themselves.

now back to the sweeping statements? anyone got anything un-PC to say?

road_high

lassykk wrote: »

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Hear hear. I would be the first to criticise the religious in many instances but they have done and do very worthwhile work such as caring for the elderly. They should be applauded for this.

well butty

mfitzy wrote: »

Hear hear. I would be the first to criticise the religious in many instances but they have done and do very worthwhile work such as caring for the elderly. They should be applauded for this.

I'm sure Hitler and Genghis Khan had their nice days too however, you still cannot justify what they did! Just because the religious care for some of the elderly (we will have to use a very broad definition of the word CARE), don't excuse and should never excuse them for what they done to the children of Ireland (and further a field).

Its also important to remember that the Irish state (tax payers) contribute to the care of the these people. APPLAUD - you must be joking!

Sully

well butty wrote: »

I'm sure Hitler and Genghis Khan had their nice days too however, you still cannot justify what they did! Just because the religious care for some of the elderly (we will have to use a very broad definition of the word CARE), don't excuse and should never excuse them for what they done to the children of Ireland (and further a field).

Its also important to remember that the Irish state (tax payers) contribute to the care of the these people. APPLAUD - you must be joking!

Not related to this topic, so could you please take it elsewhere (not in the Waterford forum anyway!). I see your point, but its going of the beat and track of the topic which I think we need to get back on. Thanks.

well butty

Sully wrote: »

Not related to this topic, so could you please take it elsewhere (not in the Waterford forum anyway!). I see your point, but its going of the beat and track of the topic which I think we need to get back on. Thanks.

Apologies for that. Just responding to the previous post but i take your point on board.

Hells Belle

I think the construction is back on - well it was yesterday, apparently the guys who work for the cement company went on strike for a few days over not being paid but it looks like thats sorted. As said above its a home for the elderly but to be honest its a little too close to a girls primary school and a secondary school for my liking. Some of the rooms are overlooking the play areas. Are all the residents going to be vetted? My niece attends the primary and we are a bit concerned and no one has come forward with any kind of assurances. Ireland for you I suppose. And its a fcukin horrible piece of construction in an already over constructed area, easy knowing not many kilkenny co co planning people live in the area. :mad:

trishw78

Why didn't you ask all these questions when it was at the planning stages the planning notices are there for all to see. If you or other people were concerned it's too late to be complaining about it now.

Hells Belle

trishw78 wrote: »

Why didn't you ask all these questions when it was at the planning stages the planning notices are there for all to see. If you or other people were concerned it's too late to be complaining about it now.

No need to be such a smart arse, that planning could have been approved 8 or 9 years ago as was the case for the lovely empty shopping centre in front of Abbey Park. I walk that road regularly and have never seen a planning application up and if anyone I know (and I know quite a few who have kids there) who uses that car park to pick up children had seen it it would have been well talked about. I don't know anyone who knew much about it until it started going up. If you don't have any decent imput don't bother at all ta very much.

well butty

trishw78 wrote: »

Why didn't you ask all these questions when it was at the planning stages the planning notices are there for all to see. If you or other people were concerned it's too late to be complaining about it now.

And say what????

I would like to make an observation against the aforementioned planning permission. Due to the fact that there maybe questionable retired religious people overlooking the play ground, i believe the local authority should refuse planning permission.

Would never happen in this country and particularly at the time the application was lodged! Also I have to agree with Hells Belle in that the building will look poor in a very prominent location!

ziedth

Hells Belle wrote: »

If you don't have any decent imput don't bother at all ta very much.

Trishw78 made a very good point, there was nothing smart assed there from what I could see. there simply MUST have been planning notices there in some form. to say thet people you know didn't talk about them too ya is a little short sighted. Of course if it transpires that there was none there i'll stand corrected.

well butty wrote: »

Due to the fact that there maybe questionable retired religious people overlooking the play ground, i believe the local authority should refuse planning permission.

As much as I can understand where your coming from, where will views such as this end? we often talking about taring certain groups here with one brush and the church should not be any different.

Next could be someone else on here saying "oh no I don't dem blacks looking over our bank sure look at all dem scammers"

If you think that the elderly nuns are going to swoop down like a hawk and abduct the children in this school and land safely back in their dwelling then I would like CCTV put there to watch, not for saftey now I'm sure the council could make a;llot of money selling the tapes

well butty

ziedth wrote: »

Trishw78 made a very good point, there was nothing smart assed there from what I could see. there simply MUST have been planning notices there in some form. to say thet people you know didn't talk about them too ya is a little short sighted. Of course if it transpires that there was none there i'll stand corrected.


As much as I can understand where your coming from, where will views such as this end? we often talking about taring certain groups here with one brush and the church should not be any different.

Although Trishw78s point was technically correct, it would never have solved Hells Belles concerns as per my previous post. You are correct in stating that you cannot tar an entire group with one brush, but when a group whether they are the religious (as broad a brush stroke as i can make) or other distinct communities continue to do something wrong and are not condemed within their community if is hard not to point the finger at that entire community! Lodging a planning observation to that effect however, is impossible!!

trishw78

I saw the planning notice on the gates to the old Convent ages ago. I also pass that way on a weekly basis.

If you had concerns it clearly states on the planning notice who is applying for it and why. It's very easy, to write a letter and explain your concerns or ring them to explain your concerns.

well_butty wrote:

I would like to make an observation against the aforementioned planning permission. Due to the fact that there maybe questionable retired religious people overlooking the play ground, i believe the local authority should refuse planning permission.

Whatever happened to innocent till proven quilty.

well butty

trishw78 wrote: »

I saw the planning notice on the gates to the old Convent ages ago. I also pass that way on a weekly basis.

If you had concerns it clearly states on the planning notice who is applying for it and why. It's very easy, to write a letter and explain your concerns or ring them to explain your concerns.



Whatever happened to innocent till proven quilty.

And say what again????

stupidsometimes

In all fairness the primary school is run by a religious order (nuns) and the local priest regularily visits too......why aren't you complaining about that aswell rather than a building that is seperate from it.

If it was a private nursing home and not a religious order run home then I would bet my money complaining about perverts wouldn't be your priority

wellbutty

1) Under law, a planning notice must be displayed on a site
2) A planning approval is valid for 5 years, a quick check on the Kilkenny County Council's site verifys that the development opposite Abbey Park was approved in 2003 and not "8 or 9 years ago"!
3) Planning permission for the development next to the Abbey school was first received in mid 2007.

As trishw78 rightly said, the planning process provides the opportunity to object to a development (as we know only too well in this city)...it's way too late now!