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Offical cards in stb/cams

  • 21-06-2009 9:37am
    #1
    snaps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭


    Im about to part with cash for subs for next season (Good deals about at moment)
    Im not going to get digitalb this year as i was let down last year and costs have gone up this year now.

    Im settling for 12 month prepaid cyfra+ multipaket HD (€145) and al jazeera 12 month (€75), possibly art sports as well but see what happens with them (Perhaps anyone knows if art will show EPL on maghreb channel again?)

    Now ive a TM6900, dragon cam and diablo cam, what i want to know will the cyfra+ (Seca 2) and al jazeera (Via 3) all work and update ok in either of these? I dont particulary want to buying more cams.

    Cyfra+ will be showing EPL in HD & English commentry
    Al jazeera will have SPL, FA cup, Carling cup, internationals (England), and all champions league matches over their 10 channels.

    P.s anyone with polish bank account & address can get cyfra+ multipacket HD at 50% off for 5 months at the moment, but not with prepaid cards.

    I dont think this breaks any rules as its about offical subs.


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  • #2
    Frisian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭Frisian


    Can confirm, Cyfra+ works in Diablo Cam since they changed the cards last year.


  • #3
    snaps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    Frisian wrote: »
    Can confirm, Cyfra+ works in Diablo Cam since they changed the cards last year.

    So no problems with them updating every month or so? As i know most cards will open the channels, but then when the operator updates new keys etc some pieces of equipment will not update the relevant cards, eg a FTV card from the uk doesnt update in 3rd party equipment.


  • #4
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,158 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    Interesting topic, as I'm currently looking into a card for next season. Digitalb have become quite expensive this year, a shame since their service is poor at best and seem unlikely to have Saturday 3pm games for new season either.

    ART cards are cheap atm, maybe for good reason?

    I had never considered Cyfra+, didn't think any channels had English comms. Do they carry Sat 3pm games?


  • #5
    snaps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    They dont have 3pm sat games every week. Usually the sat early game, sat evening game, 2 on a sunday and usually the monday night game and the midweek games. Hd games usually shown as well. They have English commentry (Most of their premium channels have english option) You can just buy a multipaket sub with none of the useless channels consisting of Canal+ sport 1,2, canal+ & canal+ film with a HD option for and extra 30€.

    Yes im wondering about art if they will have EPL or not next season?

    Digitalb have the champions league next season i think so a 30% increase in subs for that.


  • #6
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,158 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    2 years ago, Digitalb had the CL, subs were very cheap then. They went up last year, without CL or 3pm games. They're up massively this year, and CL is the excuse? Pfft, I don't buy that crap (not aimed at you but at the card resellers who I think make tidy profits).

    I guess Cyfra+ don't have Champions League, if you're getting Al Jazeera? Does AJ have english comms?

    Cyfra+ sounds promising, if for HD content alone.


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  • #7
    snaps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    Yes al jazeera has english commentry on its games. They have got the CL from art from next season and now have 10 sports channels now (4 are active and 6 are just testcards). Theres also suppossed to be an HD channel coming as well, which has already tested on 26 east earlier this year.

    Not all sports on Al Jazeera have English commentry but most of the CL/FA cup/Carling and internationals carry English or original audio.


  • #8
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,158 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    Thanks for the info.

    Cyfra and AJ could be worthy replacment to SuperSport for me, if the cards can work in standard STB's, and not paired setups.

    Time for some research. :)


  • #9
    Manc-Red
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    I just renewed Digitalb for a decent €210 quid.


  • #10
    snaps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    Manc-Red wrote: »
    I just renewed Digitalb for a decent €210 quid.

    euro or pound? Ive heard that the EPL have set digitalb new rules for transmission for next season (Their last)


  • #11
    Manc-Red
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    Euro snaps


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  • #12
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,158 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    snaps wrote: »
    euro or pound? Ive heard that the EPL have set digitalb new rules for transmission for next season (Their last)
    Yeah, I read a vague comment regarding that too, but not much in the way of info. I was guessing that it meant no Sat 3pm games this season either.


  • #13
    Manc-Red
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    @ Snaps

    Do Cyfra + show 3pms m8? & does the official card work without problems in a non official receiver?


  • #14
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,158 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    He has alrady mentioned that Cyfra doesn't have 3pm games. The card seems to be a SECA card? Still trying to find out if it'll work in a TM cardslot. My receiver suggests that they use both Viaccess and SECA encryption.

    The AlJazeera card looks like it might be a bit troublesome. Seems to require a specific Viacess 3.0 CAM for it to update properly.


  • #15
    Manc-Red
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    Looking at the Cyfra + HD sub prices for the year & I must say I'm impressed!

    Think I'll have to invest


  • #16
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,158 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    I'm still not convinced it'll work properly in the Technomate card slot or if it needs to go into a specific receiver periodically. Jury still out.


  • #17
    Manc-Red
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    I'd be worried about the TM not being able to handle a possible monthly carry on viewing signal like Sky do, looks a fantastic package for the price.


  • #18
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,158 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    Yeah, it's the keep-alive signals that worry me.

    Anyway, you've another year of Supersport to keep you happy! :)


  • #19
    Manc-Red
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    I know Bite but I'm greedy, HD Box needs HD content lol

    Fingers crossed the card works ok with the TM


  • #20
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,158 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    Manc-Red wrote: »
    I know Bite but I'm greedy, HD Box needs HD content lol

    Fingers crossed the card works ok with the TM
    Yeah, it's the HD bit that has me tempted too :) Supersport failed by having their HD channels tied to Kaon receivers (and even still, they have problems with FAPL). Wouldn't surprise me if all Supersport channels became paired to keep FAPL happy?

    Did you go ahead and order one? What HD box do you use?


  • #21
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,158 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    While info seems thin, it would seem that Cyfra+ works OK in a TM1500, so in theory, should work in a TM6900 (with latest firmware).


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  • #22
    Manc-Red
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    Nothing concrete but its looking good, this package could be a little gem at that price.


  • #23
    TCP/IP
    Subscribers Posts: 3,703 ✭✭✭TCP/IP


    snaps wrote: »
    Im about to part with cash for subs for next season (Good deals about at moment)
    Im not going to get digitalb this year as i was let down last year and costs have gone up this year now.

    Im settling for 12 month prepaid cyfra+ multipaket HD (€145) and al jazeera 12 month (€75), possibly art sports as well but see what happens with them (Perhaps anyone knows if art will show EPL on maghreb channel again?)

    Now ive a TM6900, dragon cam and diablo cam, what i want to know will the cyfra+ (Seca 2) and al jazeera (Via 3) all work and update ok in either of these? I dont particulary want to buying more cams.

    Cyfra+ will be showing EPL in HD & English commentry
    Al jazeera will have SPL, FA cup, Carling cup, internationals (England), and all champions league matches over their 10 channels.

    P.s anyone with polish bank account & address can get cyfra+ multipacket HD at 50% off for 5 months at the moment, but not with prepaid cards.

    I dont think this breaks any rules as its about offical subs.

    Where you buying the cards from at these prices?


  • #24
    snaps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    A Good HD package (pakiet podstawowy+ HD) is around 250e a year! I may be able to put my hands on a old astoncrypt cam, I wonder if that does seca 2?

    Ive taken the plunge and purchased a Multipaket HD card.


  • #25
    Manc-Red
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    byte wrote: »
    Yeah, it's the HD bit that has me tempted too :) Supersport failed by having their HD channels tied to Kaon receivers (and even still, they have problems with FAPL). Wouldn't surprise me if all Supersport channels became paired to keep FAPL happy?

    Did you go ahead and order one? What HD box do you use?

    Yes I got the signal for the update within 15 mins of the payment going through - I'm on a 6800 TM-HD m8.


  • #26
    Manc-Red
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    snaps wrote: »
    A Good HD package (pakiet podstawowy+ HD) is around 250e a year! I may be able to put my hands on a old astoncrypt cam, I wonder if that does seca 2?

    Ive taken the plunge and purchased a Multipaket HD card.

    Hope you have no probs m8 - keep us up to date m8 please


  • #27
    slegs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭slegs


    snaps wrote: »
    A Good HD package (pakiet podstawowy+ HD) is around 250e a year! I may be able to put my hands on a old astoncrypt cam, I wonder if that does seca 2?

    Ive taken the plunge and purchased a Multipaket HD card.

    Where did you buy this card?


  • #28
    Manc-Red
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    I googled & found a dealer within seconds.


  • #29
    snaps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    Manc-Red wrote: »
    Yes I got the signal for the update within 15 mins of the payment going through - I'm on a 6800 TM-HD m8.

    Latest patch? I assume in the TM's card reader?

    I assume its alright for me to post link! I hope i get commision form this polish firm!

    http://www.satsklep.pl/index.php?s=produkty&id_kat=79&producent=0&lang=eng


  • #30
    Manc-Red
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    snaps wrote: »
    Latest patch? I assume in the TM's card reader?

    I assume its alright for me to post link! I hope i get commision form this polish firm!

    http://www.satsklep.pl/index.php?s=produkty&id_kat=79&producent=0&lang=eng

    My digitalb card works directly in my card reader - got an over the air extension of my sub sent directly to my card even with a patch on it

    Thats the site I'm looking at - amazing prices.


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  • #31
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,158 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    From some more research, it would seem that the Sports channels have Polish audio only.


  • #32
    Manc-Red
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    Feck - New it was 2 good to be true:(


  • #33
    Manc-Red
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    Still none the wiser after looking at this - HD in english also??

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyfra%2B


  • #34
    snaps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    no ive seen the canal+ polish sports, polish language and original language. same as their films channels, they have original language. Check out lyngsat.com and it shows 2nd audio pids.


  • #35
    Manc-Red
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    Ive also looked at King of Sat & I can see the 2nd Pids - Dolby - Doesn't say English but I'd say it is

    Have you ordered this cards yet m8 (snaps)


  • #36
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,158 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    It's hard to tell how reliable that Wiki article is, as it seems some of it was written a year or more ago.

    Canal+ Film seems to have the option of English, but not convinced about the rest

    http://en.kingofsat.net/pack-cyfra.php


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  • #37
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,158 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    snaps wrote: »
    no ive seen the canal+ polish sports, polish language and original language. same as their films channels, they have original language. Check out lyngsat.com and it shows 2nd audio pids.
    According to some guy who claims to have it, he says that although there are two APID's, both are Polish.


  • #38
    snaps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    well i watched a few matches last season on canal+ poland and they were in english. Ive ordered my card so i will see what the offering is with sports available at moment in english.


  • #39
    Manc-Red
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    If they have HD in English Snaps I'm buying straight away.

    Best of luck m8


  • #40
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,158 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    Seems they have Italian, Spanish, Polish and French premier league coverage too.


  • #41
    snaps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    im close to ordering my al jazeera card as well for champ league in HD. they def have english commentry for SPL, Fa cup, carling cup. They have a rumored HD channel starting for champ league.

    Yes im getting mixed reports about sports commentry! Its good then ive started learning polish!!!!


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  • #42
    byte
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    byte


    snaps wrote: »
    well i watched a few matches last season on canal+ poland and they were in english. Ive ordered my card so i will see what the offering is with sports available at moment in english.
    You get your card yet, snaps?


  • #43
    Manc-Red
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    I'm dying to know m8


  • #44
    snaps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    i was hoping it would be here yesterday but it wasnt! It sat in Germany for 2 days for some unknown reason, but will be with me on Monday for def, via UPS.


  • #45
    Ronan|Raven
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,148 ✭✭✭Ronan|Raven


    Give me a list of channels and I will check. I just checked canal + film it has Juno on at the moment with polish and Original and Original AC3 audio channels available. Canal+ Sport has Barca vs some other spanish team at the moment and has both Polish and Original (ORY) audio channels available. Both are carrying Polish audio at the moment.


  • #46
    Manc-Red
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    Canal Sport & Movies HD please ronan


  • #47
    Ronan|Raven
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,148 ✭✭✭Ronan|Raven


    Afraid I cant get them but I would assume they carry english like their SD cousins.


  • #48
    Manc-Red
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    I checked the frequency myself for Canal + HD Sport & Movies and the sountracks on both channels have 2 pids with Polish & an unknown.

    Unknown must be original audio is it?


  • #49
    Ronan|Raven
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,148 ✭✭✭Ronan|Raven


    Watching c+ sport again at the moment they have a premiership game on at the moment and both audio channels are broadcasting polish but this could be different for live games.


  • #50
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,158 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    Ronan|Raven wrote: »
    Watching c+ sport again at the moment they have a premiership game on at the moment and both audio channels are broadcasting polish but this could be different for live games.
    That pretty much confirms what I read elsewhere, though that person isn't football fan, so perhaps it was a recorded game he saw...

    I'd be concerned that it remains Polish on both audio channels even for live Prem.


  • #51
    gtg60
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭gtg60


    Interesting thread this, personally not interested in sport but HD movies in English are an attractive proposition, I did a bit of Googling for sat cards and just keep getting a plethora of sites with adult cards.
    Anybody now of somewhere selling cards that might have something offering English language HD movie channels?


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