Threads that should be in Sex & Sexuality

Sleipnir

Hi,

As many (but not all) know, there is "Sex & Sexuality" forum which only paid subscribers have access to.

Currently, there's a thread in "boards.ie > Soc > Personal Issues > Relationship Issues#2 entitled "Anal" which contains very graphic posts about anal sex. The OP himself said it's "Not a relationship issue per se" and is entirely about the mechanics of and advice pertaining to anal sex.

Yet it has not moved.

One of the Subscriber "Benefits" listed is "Access to the Sex and Sexuality board."However, if you can post questions regarding sex in the Relationships Issues forum, why does Sex & Sexuality exist and why is it listed as a "subscriber benefit"?

I did report the original post this afternoon but it hasn't moved and I haven't had any reponse from any mod.

One of reasons, as I remember, for making Sex and Sexuality a subscriber only forum was because boards has quite a few younger members and this was to protect them from such posts.
Has this changed?

Sleipnir

Here's another one.

K-9

Edit, wrong forum!

Sleipnir

aaaaaand another

Sleipnir

K-9 wrote: »

I really, really, really think you picked the wrong forum to discuss this.

Feedback -> -> ->

Well, it's feedback on the current situation as I see it re: the Sex & Sexuality forum and how threads which do belong there, are somewhere else.
If a mod wants to move it to a more appropriate thread, fine.

K-9

Sleipnir wrote: »

Well, it's feedback on the current situation re: the Sex & Sexuality forum and how threads which do belong there, are somewhere else.

Sorry my fault.

I suppose one of the the problems is Sex & Sexuality requires a subscription.

Red Sleeping Beauty

Is the Sex forum not to give a certain annonymity and protection so people can talk about their sex lives without it being republished in other forums and brought up etc. ?

I don't think there's huge amounts of difference between the words and terms and practises described in either forum in such threads hence my assumption above.

6th

I take your point OP but have you reported the threads/posts? For the record, Mods also have access to the S&S Forum.

Sleipnir

Yeah, I reported it yesterday afternoon. Didn't hear anything back though.

[-0-]

Sleipnir wrote: »

Hi,

As many (but not all) know, there is "Sex & Sexuality" forum which only paid subscribers have access to.

Currently, there's a thread in "boards.ie > Soc > Personal Issues > Relationship Issues#2 entitled "Anal" which contains very graphic posts about anal sex. The OP himself said it's "Not a relationship issue per se" and is entirely about the mechanics of and advice pertaining to anal sex.

Yet it has not moved.

One of the Subscriber "Benefits" listed is "Access to the Sex and Sexuality board."However, if you can post questions regarding sex in the Relationships Issues forum, why does Sex & Sexuality exist and why is it listed as a "subscriber benefit"?

I did report the original post this afternoon but it hasn't moved and I haven't had any reponse from any mod.

One of reasons, as I remember, for making Sex and Sexuality a subscriber only forum was because boards has quite a few younger members and this was to protect them from such posts.
Has this changed?

The OP posted as anonymous, and as a result they do not have access to the S&S forum. I imagine that is why it hasn't been moved; because the OP wouldn't be able to see the thread anymore.

Sleipnir

[-0-] wrote: »

The OP posted as anonymous, and as a result they do not have access to the S&S forum. I imagine that is why it hasn't been moved; because the OP wouldn't be able to see the thread anymore.

So, why is the S&S forum a "benefit" for paying subscribers then? If ordinary members can post whatever they want to do with sex in other forums anonymously?

Don't have access to the S&S forum because you don't want to pay? No problem, just go unregged and post your graphic sex questions in PI....
Doesn't that negate the need for a S&S forum?

I thought that one of the reasons for the S&S forum was to keep graphic content out of sight of younger members as much as possible. Is this not the case?

Just what is the need for a S&S forum if you can post regarding sex and sexuality elsewhere?

WhiteWashMan

I would agree with you, if it really is something for the sex and sexuality forum, then perhaps it should be moved there.

Reporting the posts is a good start, but you can also PM the mods in question and suggest that they move the threads.

However, they may also feel that a thread is already qualified to be whatever forum it is in, or they may just not really even have thought about it!

As for what the forum is about, well, from the charter in there:
The purpose of this forum is the discussion of sex, sexuality and related topics.


Although, to be honest, I dont know. Im sure that there would be a feedback thread within minutes if a mod moved someones thread and they couldnt access it in S&S
Damn if you do and damned if you dont it would seem.

Sleipnir

WhiteWashMan wrote: »

Although, to be honest, I dont know. Im sure that there would be a feedback thread within minutes if a mod moved someones thread and they couldnt access it in S&S
Damn if you do and damned if you dont it would seem.

Then they can be reminded that they can access S&S by becoming a paying subscriber;)

When I became a subscriber a headed over to S&S to find out what all the fuss was about to find that it's a pretty dead forum which surprised me.
Then I realised that sex and sexuality are mostly discussed in PI, AH and The Ladies lounge.

AckwelFoley

A graphic sexual issue like that should be in the sex forum. However issues involving erection failure or low sex drive etc is a pi as it can involve other issues such as depression etc.. Wanting to know how to give clitoral and vaginal orgasams is specific.

WhiteWashMan

snyper wrote: »

A graphic sexual issue like that should be in the sex forum. However issues involving erection failure or low sex drive etc is a pi as it can involve other issues such as depression etc.. Wanting to know how to give clitoral and vaginal orgasams is specific.

Agreed. I think its all about context.

I would leave it the discretion of of the mod of the particular forum to figure out if it was relevant or not.

Sleipnir

Well then I think the mods need to be reminded that threads such as the "anal" one should be moved. Won't somebody please think of the children et cetera, et cetera.

WhiteWashMan

Then drop them a PM as well as reporting the post.

Just remember, they may not agree

But as I said, I see your point and I agree.

The Recliner

Sleipnir wrote: »

Hi,

As many (but not all) know, there is "Sex & Sexuality" forum which only paid subscribers have access to.

Currently, there's a thread in "boards.ie > Soc > Personal Issues > Relationship Issues#2 entitled "Anal" which contains very graphic posts about anal sex. The OP himself said it's "Not a relationship issue per se" and is entirely about the mechanics of and advice pertaining to anal sex.

Yet it has not moved.

One of the Subscriber "Benefits" listed is "Access to the Sex and Sexuality board."However, if you can post questions regarding sex in the Relationships Issues forum, why does Sex & Sexuality exist and why is it listed as a "subscriber benefit"?

I did report the original post this afternoon but it hasn't moved and I haven't had any reponse from any mod.

One of reasons, as I remember, for making Sex and Sexuality a subscriber only forum was because boards has quite a few younger members and this was to protect them from such posts.
Has this changed?

I am not trying to fob you off but it is the weekend and people have lives. I did see your reported post yesterday and wanted to discuss it with my fellow PI mods before taking any action, as it happens on this particular weekend we are thin on the ground for PI Mods so it may be this evening or tomorrow before we get to discuss it and decide what if any action will be taken

My personal opinion is that just because a thread is about sex doesn't mean it can't stay in PI and needs to me moved to the S&S forum, sex can be a PI and an important one for the people involved so I think sometimes it is no harm to let them through

The thread titles or the OP would generally give an indication of how graphic the thread will become, we can't nanny everyone on the internet so if young people do click into it they can chose to not read it, I doubt anything in Pi will scar fragile young minds and there is a lot worse out there in the big bad world of the internet

But we will discuss it and the other PI mods may have a different opinion

Nevyn

Threads do get moved from tLL, AH and PI/Ri to sex and sexuality when warrented.
PI/RI which are sexual issues are usually left in PI/RI esp as there is no unreggistered posting in S&S which is a limited access forum.

The point of S&S being limited access so that the posts do not show up in google and on last 20 posts unless a person has access to the forum.

If you think that there are ways S&S can be improved then the S&S mods are open to hear them and feel free to start any discussion you wish in there. There are a lot of topics covered in there you just have to do a search or look at more then the first to pages of threads.

The S&S forum is not a tell or or conifessional forum or a sex blog forum if there are topic you want to see discussed there then start a thread on them.

As for the 3 Threads you have linked to there is an on going dicussion on them among the PI mods and we will get back to you on it.

Also, are you upset cos a post you made in the first thread you linked to was deleted?
There are discussion thread on anal sex in the sex and sexuality forum if you wanted to make your contribution there.

Faith

In my mind, S&S is for discussions about sex, like fantasies, unusual places to have sex, or even posting tips for improving this or that. PI then is for actual problems regarding sex, such as the threads that were linked to. There's a large element of overlap between the two, but I think if someone has a genuine issue then PI is an appropriate place for them to ask for help.

copacetic

Pimpey wrote: »

I am not trying to fob you off but it is the weekend and people have lives. I did see your reported post yesterday and wanted to discuss it with my fellow PI mods before taking any action, as it happens on this particular weekend we are thin on the ground for PI Mods so it may be this evening or tomorrow before we get to discuss it and decide what if any action will be taken

My personal opinion is that just because a thread is about sex doesn't mean it can't stay in PI and needs to me moved to the S&S forum, sex can be a PI and an important one for the people involved so I think sometimes it is no harm to let them through

The thread titles or the OP would generally give an indication of how graphic the thread will become, we can't nanny everyone on the internet so if young people do click into it they can chose to not read it, I doubt anything in Pi will scar fragile young minds and there is a lot worse out there in the big bad world of the internet

But we will discuss it and the other PI mods may have a different opinion

Thats of course understandable but there was a reported post about that thread on Thursday night here (by me):

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055597381

Expecting any young person to choose not to read a thread entitled 'anal' is laughable! Sure I clicked into into wondering how the feck it made in out of S&S. Of course there is much worse out there on the internet, a million times worse, but thats absolutely nothing to do with what we allow/don't allow on boards?

It's of course up to the RI mods what they do, but I'd certainly like a bit more clarity about what is generally allowed or not. If only to save reporting posts. There doesn't appear to be anything in the charter re graphic sex issues being allowed or not.

Nevyn

IF the thread is helpful to the op it stays, once they have had advice then it's done any thread in PI/RI which posts wanders into discussion rahter then addressing the op's issue can be seen as unhelpful posts and the thread can be closed.

That is the current stance on it, again discussion is still happening on this topic and if I find out what smart arse is
starting heap of unreggie sex thread atm to push the limits there will be hell to pay and yes we can as pi/ri mods muppet check unreggie posts if needed.

Nevyn

copacetic wrote: »

Thats of course understandable but there was a reported post about that thread on Thursday night here (by me):

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055597381

Yes you reported the post at 18-06-2009, 23:37
and I replied the reported post at 19-06-2009, 00:02.

Was 15 mins too long of a wait for a reply?

As for clarity

http://wiki.boards.ie/wiki/Board:Sex_/_Sexuality

# Similarly, please avoid an overly didactic tone, especially if someone didn't actually ask for advice. This is a discussion forum, not a preaching forum.
# Please keep within the general tone a thread started with:

1. By default, threads should be assumed to be about safe, sane and consensual acts (which includes the decision to be celibate, to abstain before marriage, etc). If you want to discuss something outside of that please start a new thread.
2. By default, what your god or gods think about the previous posters is off topic, please either take it to the forum for the appropriate religion, or else start a new thread on the matter. (Saying "I must not/must do X because of my religion" is okay, saying "No one should/Everyone should do X because of my religion" is not, unless the thread is explicitly about the morality of something).

# If you ask a poster for more information on something they've said, and they choose not to reply, assume they don't want to answer that question, repeatedly asking such questions will be deemed an act of harassment and result in a ban.
# Because of the subscriber-only nature of this forum it is not possible to allow for anonymous posting. If you PM a request to one of the moderators, we will treat it in confidence and may post it for you, before deleting the PM. (As mere common-sense should tell you, this confidentiality cannot extend to keeping quiet about matters that should be reported to the police).
# Fun posts are welcome, but please stay serious on serious threads.
# What goes where:

1. Threads on sexual morality focusing on a particular belief system go in the appropriate religion's forum. Threads on sexual morality here are open to all viewpoints.
2. Threads seeking advice on a given issue go to Personal Issues. The Personal Issues moderators work to steer replies towards those which are offering help, the moderators here will not, if you post about a problem here people can just discuss any aspect of the problem they find interesting and not offer any advice at all.
3. Threads about sexual health matters are allowed and encouraged here. If you have a concern about your own sexual health you should go to a doctor or an STI clinic, not here. As per other threads seeking advice, threads about coping with a sexual health issue are allowed here, but Personal Issues is the place to go for actual advice.
4. What celebrity you fancy, etc. is still an After Hours matter. It's not actually a discussion about sex or sexuality after all.
5. Purely humours threads go to the Humour forum.
6. Pointless links to pornographic or erotic material go nowhere. They get deleted and the poster gets banned (possibly site-banned).

# It is not appropriate to out someone or otherwise say anything about their sexual lifestyle they have not mentioned themselves.

copacetic

Thaedydal wrote: »

IF the thread is helpful to the op it stays, once they have had advice then it's done any thread in PI/RI which posts wanders into discussion rahter then addressing the op's issue can be seen as unhelpful posts and the thread can be closed.

That is the current stance on it, again discussion is still happening on this topic and if I find out what smart arse is
starting heap of unreggie sex thread atm to push the limits there will be hell to pay and yes we can as pi/ri mods muppet check unreggie posts if needed.

fair enough, not sure if you are implying it is me, it isn't. check away.

Thaedydal wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055597381

Yes you reported the post at 18-06-2009, 23:37
and I replied the reported post at 19-06-2009, 00:02.

Was 15 mins too long of a wait for a reply?

Not at all, I thanked your reply at the time. I just wanted to point out that bringing up the fact that it was a weekend when the OP reported the thread was not a valid argument.

Nevyn

copacetic wrote: »

fair enough, not sure if you are implying it is me, it isn't. check away.

Nope, that's a general warning.

copacetic wrote: »

Not at all, I thanked your reply at the time. I just wanted to point out that bringing up the fact that it was a weekend when the OP reported the thread was not a valid argument.

At the time of your reported the thread in question had not wandered into discussion territory and was well with in the remit of the forum it is in.

With additional posts the nature of a thread will change and when this complaint thread was started at midnight on a Saturday with out the op bothering to report any posts it was the weekend and mods have lives ( and if I am not entitled to be out drinking on my birthday and not be on boards then when else ffs ) and we did address the matter when the post was reported and have addressed the matter as raised by this thread to day both here and among ourselves.

copacetic

Thaedydal wrote: »

Nope, that's a general warning.

Maybe a feedback thread isn't the place for those kind of warnings? It appears you are implying that anyone who disagrees with you is a possible culprit and are going to look in to it and 'get them'. Hardly the attitude to take in what seems to have been a pretty reasonably put feedback thread by the OP?

Shouldn't you just look into it and take action rather than bringing it up in a feedback thread that may have absolutely nothing to do with it?

edit: I see you've added a comment on clarity and a link to a wiki that has absolutely nothing to do the the RI or PI forum, I must be missing something? are you suggesting that people go around every forum checking the charters and then go and check the wiki entries to find out if they say you could go to PI or RI for advice?

That appears to be the exact opposite of clarity.