Padraig Harrington and caddy

Trampas

With PH not playing the best this year and the way pro's work when things aren't going great they usually change caddies do you think PH might sacked Ronan?

If he did decide to sack him I think it would be interesting since they are brothers in law.

As you know the old saying never work with family

charlesanto

New Caddy & New wife req'd IMO !:eek:

rednik

I think Ronan would have known the pitfalls of the job before he agreed to take it. I also think Harrington would admit Ronan has nothing to do with the problems he is going through at the moment but are all of his own making. Tinkering with his swing is his problem, lets hope he comes through this and gets back to the great golfer he is.

MisterAnarchy

rednik wrote: »

Tinkering with his swing is his problem, lets hope he comes through this and gets back to the great golfer he is.

Very true.
He should have realised his limits and that he had almost reached them.
It was a big risk making swing changes but hopefully it will pay dividends in the long run.

soundsham

he'd have to ask his boss,caroline if it was ok and she would tell him what to do

A.Partridge

Trampas wrote: »

With PH not playing the best this year and the way pro's work when things aren't going great they usually change caddies do you think PH might sacked Ronan?

If he did decide to sack him I think it would be interesting since they are brothers in law.

As you know the old saying never work with family

Why would he sack Ronan Flood?

RF has been on his bag for each of his 3 Major wins.

I think it would be a huge mistake (+ an injustice) if Padraig were to part with Ronan Flood at this time.

It's hardly Ronan's fault if Padraig has been tinkering with his swing? And I haven't heard anyone yet say that Ronan has been giving him wrong yardages or poor club decisions or poor reads on putts.

While you are entitled to raise this as a point I would be worried that a post like this could place unjustified blame on Ronan Flood for Padraig's poor form of late and maybe cause him to lose his job...if enough people add to the chinese whispers.

There are enough people unemployed already without Ronan Flood being placed on the dole queue.

L.O.F.T

PH has always stated from the get go and still does maintain that its difficult off the course when playing in the US and Ronan provides company whilst away from family for long periods. I think Ronan provides more good to Harrington than any bad. Whilst I am as frustrated as anyone with his form I think he is in a slump and will return to form very soon. I also believe the statement

''I would be worried that a post like this could place unjustified blame on Ronan Flood for Padraig's poor form of late and maybe cause him to lose his job...if enough people add to the chinese whispers''

is a load of horses**t.

soundsham

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There are enough people unemployed already without Ronan Flood being placed on the dole queue.[/quote]

Slightly off the point but do you honestly think he'd sign on and do nothing or maybe a FAS course?

fullstop

A.Partridge wrote: »

While you are entitled to raise this as a point I would be worried that a post like this could place unjustified blame on Ronan Flood for Padraig's poor form of late and maybe cause him to lose his job...if enough people add to the chinese whispers.

There are enough people unemployed already without Ronan Flood being placed on the dole queue.

LOL

Padraig Harrington wrote:

Sorry eh Ronan eh, the lads on ehhhhh boards think it may be time for us to part company so ehhhh I'm afraid you're fired

soundsham

lol

not even a text fired on boards!!

A.Partridge

Lads...I'm making a serious point here.

Remember what happened to Myles Byrne?

Myles Byrne was one of the best caddies on tour and was involved in the famous 15 clubs in the bag incident with Ian Woosnam.

After the press and media and people whispering he was sacked by Ian Woosnam and guess what...he was signing on the dole 3 weeks later.

That was tough on a guy who was involved with golf all his life.

Caddies such as Ronan Flood don't need people to start mischievous threads on forums that are eventually picked up by some journalists who may repeat a growing myth.

soundsham

myles byrne was a bad timekeeper and a bit of a wild thing off the course, it was as case of the straw that broke the camels back with woosnam

L.O.F.T

A.Partridge wrote: »

Remember what happened to Myles Byrne?

Myles Byrne was one of the best caddies on tour and was involved in the famous 15 clubs in the bag incident with Ian Woosnam.

After the press and media and people whispering he was sacked by Ian Woosnam and guess what...he was signing on the dole 3 weeks later.

He was sacked because he didnt check the bag before Woosnam began play especially as he was in contention. Nobody had to whisper, everyone saw it live on TV and I bet Woosnam didnt need any whispers or media to know this guy had ''one job to do'' and he messed it up.

Aidric

A.Partridge wrote: »

Why would he sack Ronan Flood?

RF has been on his bag for each of his 3 Major wins.

I think it would be a huge mistake (+ an injustice) if Padraig were to part with Ronan Flood at this time.

It's hardly Ronan's fault if Padraig has been tinkering with his swing? And I haven't heard anyone yet say that Ronan has been giving him wrong yardages or poor club decisions or poor reads on putts.

While you are entitled to raise this as a point I would be worried that a post like this could place unjustified blame on Ronan Flood for Padraig's poor form of late and maybe cause him to lose his job...if enough people add to the chinese whispers.

There are enough people unemployed already without Ronan Flood being placed on the dole queue.

Post of the day imo. Lol.

fullstop

A.Partridge wrote: »

Lads...I'm making a serious point here.

Remember what happened to Myles Byrne?

Myles Byrne was one of the best caddies on tour and was involved in the famous 15 clubs in the bag incident with Ian Woosnam.

After the press and media and people whispering he was sacked by Ian Woosnam and guess what...he was signing on the dole 3 weeks later.

That was tough on a guy who was involved with golf all his life.

Caddies such as Ronan Flood don't need people to start mischievous threads on forums that are eventually picked up by some journalists who may repeat a growing myth.

You realise why he was sacked 3 weeks later do you? He didn't turn up for a tee time at another tournament. That one wasn't our fault

soundsham

lol

i heard harrington is getting alan sugar or bill cullen to do the deed

copacetic

Trampas wrote: »

As you know the old saying never work with family

Never heard that one before, isn't it never work with children and animals? You wouldn't just be making up sayings there by any chance? Funny thread anyhow..

JeanClaude

A.Partridge wrote: »

Why would he sack Ronan Flood?

RF has been on his bag for each of his 3 Major wins.

I think it would be a huge mistake (+ an injustice) if Padraig were to part with Ronan Flood at this time.

It's hardly Ronan's fault if Padraig has been tinkering with his swing? And I haven't heard anyone yet say that Ronan has been giving him wrong yardages or poor club decisions or poor reads on putts.

While you are entitled to raise this as a point I would be worried that a post like this could place unjustified blame on Ronan Flood for Padraig's poor form of late and maybe cause him to lose his job...if enough people add to the chinese whispers.

There are enough people unemployed already without Ronan Flood being placed on the dole queue.

are you Ronan Flood?

Aidric

The irony of the Alan Partridge username is lost on nobody.

Trampas

A.Partridge wrote: »

Why would he sack Ronan Flood?

RF has been on his bag for each of his 3 Major wins.

I think it would be a huge mistake (+ an injustice) if Padraig were to part with Ronan Flood at this time.

You could say the same for many caddies around the world. How many did fanny win with Faldo?

Colin Byrne was sacked by The Goose after winning a couple of majors together.

copacetic wrote: »

Never heard that one before, isn't it never work with children and animals? You wouldn't just be making up sayings there by any chance? Funny thread anyhow..

Maybe not an exact saying but I have heard many of stories about people working with family and causing problems.

The reason of the thread is PH is not playing great and would he sack Ronan because of it. Just look at all the great players over the years and the number of caddies they have gone through. Many of caddies get the boot because the player is playing bad.

leeroybrown

fullstop wrote: »

You realise why he was sacked 3 weeks later do you? He didn't turn up for a tee time at another tournament. That one wasn't our fault

As fullstop points out Woosnam sacked him at a subsequent tournament when he didn't turn up for the final round, leaving Woosnam to break into his own locker for his shoes and use a member of club staff as caddy instead. TBH, I would have sacked him after the original incident. Competition and money and aside, I could understand forgetting to count and having too many irons, but having two drivers with full head covers in the bag is something else.

On a more on topic note, I don't see Harrington replacing his caddy. I think he's the kind of meticulous guy who'll know exactly what the problem is and will probably be the first to say that it's him that's the issue. Maybe changing caddy helps some golfers but I doubt it's the way that Harrington would address the problems.

copacetic

Trampas wrote: »

The reason of the thread is PH is not playing great and would he sack Ronan because of it. Just look at all the great players over the years and the number of caddies they have gone through. Many of caddies get the boot because the player is playing bad.

Of course, but usually this is because they are disagreeing over club selection or the caddie is unsettling the player, or they just don't get on anymore. Often the player stops trusting what the caddie is saying. I've never heard of a player sacking a caddie just because he starts playing badly. Which is what you seem to be suggesting may happen.

Padraig is on record as saying Ronan sorted out his head on the way to get his up and down after hitting the water twice on 18 in the Open to get in the playoff. He's credited him as being a major part of turning him into a major winner.

However apart from that Padraig knows he decided to change his swing and not being able to hit a fairway or green is not the caddies fault or anything to do with him so it seems extremely unlikely that he would change caddies.

Blunder

Plus I think I read somewhere that PH said that he'd be far worse if it wasnt for RF lately. (Not his exact words but the jist of what he was saying)

I think the problems with Padraig are all of his own making. He has neglected his short game which has, by his own admission, gotten him through the swing changes in the past. Confidence is gone which is something which he hasnt experienced to this extent in quite a while. Every golfer goes through periods of doubt and I'm sure it'll end before long.

A.Partridge

soundsham wrote: »

myles byrne was a bad timekeeper and a bit of a wild thing off the course, it was as case of the straw that broke the camels back with woosnam

...a bit of a wild thing off the course?

That sounds interesting. Do give us the details.

fullstop

A.Partridge wrote: »

...a bit of a wild thing off the course?

That sounds interesting. Do give us the details.

You're the one that knows everything are you not?

waterville72

A.Partridge wrote: »

Why would he sack Ronan Flood?

While you are entitled to raise this as a point I would be worried that a post like this could place unjustified blame on Ronan Flood for Padraig's poor form of late and maybe cause him to lose his job...if enough people add to the chinese whispers.

There are enough people unemployed already without Ronan Flood being placed on the dole queue.

Lol. Some of the posts on here are hilarious at times. Youre doing an injustice to a one Mr Alan Partridge with a statement like that. I mean sure he could lose his job if we start spreading chinese whispers on here. Happens all the time. How do you think Staunton lost the job as Irish Manager...Boards of course. He was as safe as a house until someone started that thread here. And as for the current unrest in Iran..Boards again. What power we have here.
You plonker.

copacetic

waterville72 wrote: »

Lol. Some of the posts on here are hilarious at times. Youre doing an injustice to a one Mr Alan Partridge with a statement like that. I mean sure he could lose his job if we start spreading chinese whispers on here. Happens all the time. How do you think Staunton lost the job as Irish Manager...Boards of course. He was as safe as a house until someone started that thread here. And as for the current unrest in Iran..Boards again. What power we have here.
You plonker.

infraction. next ones a ban.

tom francy

heard them say on sky yesterday dat flood won caddy of the year for the last too years ....dont no wot u have to do to win it but he cant b seen as a bad caddy by his fellow caddys and players ...(maybe it was just the major wins)
anyway i dont see him gettin sacked paddys just in a slump he'll b back

PeterJamesDoyle

Anyone happen to know what driver/shaft combo he is using now? It doesn't look like his regular driver. Since he changed that, he appears to be driving the ball poorly.
Hope he doesn't become like Garcia with his poor putting. Harringtons' driving has been superb in recent years.

soundsham

tom francy wrote: »

heard them say on sky yesterday dat flood won caddy of the year for the last too years ....dont no wot u have to do to win it but he cant b seen as a bad caddy by his fellow caddys and players ...(maybe it was just the major wins)
anyway i dont see him gettin sacked paddys just in a slump he'll b back

being on a major winners bag is about as hard to ignore as a sunami

soundsham

PeterJamesDoyle wrote: »

Anyone happen to know what driver/shaft combo he is using now? It doesn't look like his regular driver. Since he changed that, he appears to be driving the ball poorly.
Hope he doesn't become like Garcia with his poor putting. Harringtons' driving has been superb in recent years.

wilson fat head reg. shaft titleist 10.5 head cummins grip

Goodluck2me

fullstop wrote: »

LOL

I think he makes a good point actually, you never know powerful these boards are.

fullstop wrote: »

You're the one that knows everything are you not?

No. that is me.

theocn

I think Ph may need someone stronger on the bag, someone who'll talk him out of the bad decisions he tends to make most rounds.
He would have won the Masters a few years ago had he played the Par 5s the same way that the the eventual winner Zach Johnson did, ie lay up. But each round he went for the 13th & 15th in 2 and he must have been in the water at least 4 or 5 times.
He could have easily won the US open in 2006. Everyone talks about how Mickleson and Monty blew it that year, yet on one of the closing holes PH tried to hit a 3 wood out of 6 inch rough and managed to advance the ball about 20ft.
He ended up bogeying the last 3 holes and finished 2 shots behind Ogilvy.