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HCAP Range test insurance

  • 20-06-2009 3:49pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭


    Guys I feel like an eeejit but could do with some advice on this...

    I am due to do the HCAP range test this coming Saturday and am not a member of gun club i.e. no insurance. I met one of the gun club guys today and asked about joining for insurnace but the person responsible for new members is away on hols for the next while. I need to have evidence of insurance in place before range test. Can anybody suggest a practical way to sort this out...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭like to hunt


    ring the N.A.R.G.C head office

    or contreyside alliance office


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    http://www.ifacountryside.ie/Home/tabid/139/language/en-US/Default.aspx

    http://www.countrysideallianceireland.org/

    Either of these two will insure you

    NARGC you'd have to be a member of a club above two will insure you as an individual.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 finnlite


    emcor wrote: »
    Guys I feel like an eeejit but could do with some advice on this...

    I am due to do the HCAP range test this coming Saturday and am not a member of gun club i.e. no insurance. I met one of the gun club guys today and asked about joining for insurnace but the person responsible for new members is away on hols for the next while. I need to have evidence of insurance in place before range test. Can anybody suggest a practical way to sort this out...
    your using a full bore and shooting deer with out insurance:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Jonty


    finnlite wrote: »
    your using a full bore and shooting deer with out insurance:eek:

    Maybe he's starting out. The season doesn't start till september.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 finnlite


    maybe .but if i was doing my HCAP saturday morning i would be doing some practice shots before now or do they not count.:rolleyes:
    brings up a question how many hunters do not have insurance.
    would you take a gun from a the safe with out it .
    if you were shot by some one with out insurance can you sue them for every thing they have or the land owner or all:eek:.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭foxshooter243


    finnlite wrote: »
    maybe .but if i was doing my HCAP saturday morning i would be doing some practice shots before now or do they not count.:rolleyes:
    brings up a question how many hunters do not have insurance.
    would you take a gun from a the safe with out it .
    if you were shot by some one with out insurance can you sue them for every thing they have or the land owner or all:eek:.

    I know its the responsible thing to do is have proper insurance, but I remember a time in this country when we went shooting [in my patch anyway} and there were no gunclubs and no insurance. There are still guys shooting without insurance today, a local lad who isnt a member of any club and who has no deer permit or insurance had no probem obtaining a licence for a 243 as his first gun , another lad who is a member of 3 different clubs, has insurance and deer permits, has attended rifle and shotgun safety courses was refused a licence for a 22 air rifle even though he had a long shooting history.The reason given was that 4 guns was too many..the first lad ..well he just happened to have two sisters married to members of the gardai..did that count?..of course not:rolleyes

    I reckon the OP is getting his house in order for september, anyone who has the foresight to be doing the HCap would i imagine be getting insurance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭emcor


    Thanks Lads - thats perfect.

    On the other thing; I am 30 & had a centerfire rifle since 16 yrs, I recently moved to a larger caliber & have a stalking license pending for next season. I do consider myself an adequate shot both with my rifle and rough shooting. However I prefer to rely on practical safety measures while shooting and not on an insurance policy that legal teams can aruge to shreads should the unthinkable occur; I dont believe that this makes me any less responsible than others.

    I am from a rural area and am a landowner. Our country is being run by bureacrats and insurance companies which are dictating terms of how we live. I have seen the benifit in people with common intersts joining together in gun clubs WDAI IDS etc and I will be insured shotly because this is what prople in the groups have decided is best - not a faceless bureacrat. I will also become a member of local club presently.

    Thanks again for the advice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 finnlite


    your a lucky man .im using firearms for over 30 years now the first 10 with out any insurance.
    a single pellet form the 250 add in a shot gun shell can blind or kill some one .
    a 270 can kill at 3 miles+ .
    if you sat down and thought about it the hair would stand up on the back of your neck.
    i am very glad for your sake you are taking out insurance and wish you good shooting on sat .

    if you can get your hands on a tri pod for the standing shots do so and bring a bag to go under your stock when shooting prone.;)
    if the wind is up in the midlands they will help.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    emcor wrote: »
    Thanks Lads - thats perfect.

    On the other thing; I am 30 & had a centerfire rifle since 16 yrs, I recently moved to a larger caliber & have a stalking license pending for next season. I do consider myself an adequate shot both with my rifle and rough shooting. However I prefer to rely on practical safety measures while shooting and not on an insurance policy that legal teams can aruge to shreads should the unthinkable occur; I dont believe that this makes me any less responsible than others.

    I am from a rural area and am a landowner. Our country is being run by bureacrats and insurance companies which are dictating terms of how we live. I have seen the benifit in people with common intersts joining together in gun clubs WDAI IDS etc and I will be insured shotly because this is what prople in the groups have decided is best - not a faceless bureacrat. I will also become a member of local club presently.

    Thanks again for the advice.

    Unfortunately this country is gone down the "claim culture" route and subsequently it is better to have the insurance cover IMO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭emcor


    OK Finnlite [nice gun BTW] only other thing I will say is that .270 wont kill at 3 miles if you are practising safe shooting; like a solid backstop etc...
    Insurance will not stop eejits making mistaks either.

    All the best - Emcor


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