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Removing Pedals (SPD)

  • 19-06-2009 6:10pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭


    Hi.

    I have bought a pair of white shoes, and they need road pedals,

    So I went for Look KEO. So I have been trying to take of my SPD's.

    Now I have spent the last 45mins trying to get my SPDs off of the crank.
    The pedals are attached to the crank arm via a thin arm. It would seem as if the only way to get the pedal off is via an allen key hole at the back of the crank. I have an 8mm allen key that fits this hole.

    After much pressure and force and pushing, the pedals will not budge.
    I have sprayed WD40 on the area. Still no budge.

    I am afraid of applying any more pressure in case I break the crank arm (Ultegra SL hollowtech).

    Anybody go any experience with this please.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,221 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    You do know that the left pedal is threaded the wrong way?

    Assuming you are doing it right, you may just need more leverage. Perhaps your pedals were not properly greased when first assembled.

    Tip: always remove and (re)grease pedals on a new bike.

    edit: which shoes did you get?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭Ryaner


    The pedals are grippable using a small skinny wrench too. Got one with my bike and it proved very useful for getting the pedals off recently.

    Also, one pedal opens clockwise, the open anti clockwise but I'm sure you already know this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,544 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    A hammer, seriously, whack that allan key or bring it to a bike shop and ask them to do it for a few euro.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,221 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    btw, I think the standard way of getting more leverage is to put a metal pipe over the allen wrench.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    You can go the allen key method, or if you have a pedal wrench you can get far more leverage.

    Remember, left pedal is reverse threaded so clockwise to remove it. Or as I remember it: turn towards rear wheel to loosen a pedal, turn towards front wheel to tighten.

    They are normally tricky to remove, but you would be doing well to fudge a crank arm. Just make sure the bike is secure and isn't at risk of falling over.

    Oh, and when you put the Keos on, use your fingers to engage the pedals onto the crank threads until you need more force to tighten, many a pedal and crank are ruined by people going straight for the wrench. And apply some grease to the threads beforehand.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Wez


    It should be the same as a normal pedal, that the "thin arm" is where you put a spanner around (open ended) but alot of them will be too fat. I simply ground the sides of it down so it'd fit between the pedals and the cranks.

    You can use the allen key slot in the back, but make sure it fits well, otherwise you'll round the hole out - major drama!

    Also, handy to remember that the left pedal (non driveside) is reverse threaded!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭ROK ON


    Thanks for the tips. May just have to bring them to a shop. My allen key is part of a tool, so I cant get anymore leverage (like a bar) onto it. My guess is that is what is needed.

    If anyone has a pedal wrench that I could borrow tomorrow then let me know, as I would love to be able to try the new pedals on Sunday, along with my new white saddle. All I need to do now is shave legs and acuire a tan.

    As for the shoes I bought a pair of NW Aerator3. Came in at €108 on sale at Cycleways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    ROK ON wrote: »
    Thanks for the tips. May just have to bring them to a shop. My allen key is part of a tool, so I cant get anymore leverage (like a bar) onto it. My guess is that is what is needed.

    If anyone has a pedal wrench that I could borrow tomorrow then let me know, as I would love to be able to try the new pedals on Sunday, along with my new white saddle. All I need to do now is shave legs and acuire a tan.

    As for the shoes I bought a pair of NW Aerator3. Came in at €108 on sale at Cycleways.

    I could bring one on sunday, don't think I will head out tomorrow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭ROK ON


    DirkVoodoo wrote: »
    I could bring one on sunday, don't think I will head out tomorrow.

    Great.

    I will bring bothe sets of shoes on the spin, just in case.
    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,221 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    btw, there are two types of SPD attachment (at least I have two types).

    One sort has an allen bolt through the crank AND a "nut" on the spindle, so you can use a pedal wrench or an allen key.

    The other (more expensive) sort has no nut, so you have to use an allen key (unless you just use a wrench to clamp the spindle, but that will likely mark it). A pedal wrench is no use on these.

    edit: second sort like this, the silver nut spins with the pedal, not the spindle:

    shimano%20m540%20pedals.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,833 ✭✭✭niceonetom


    Hey ROK - You live very local to me, I could drop a pedal wrench around to you if you like?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 7,396 Mod ✭✭✭✭**Timbuk2**


    What I did to remove my old platform pedals was to put the the wrench (15mm) on the pedal, sit on the saddle, and push down on the wrench hard with my foot. It eventually loosened. I could easily loosen the rest with just a few turns.

    This may not be the best for the wrench, but it worked as I was getting very frustrated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭ROK ON


    Have just read Lumens advice. I think he may be correct. There would be no where for the wrench to grip.

    I think I need a long arm allen key. If I get a chance I will bring to to LBS tomorrow. Thanks anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,038 ✭✭✭penexpers


    Or you could use a torque wrench to get more leverage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,833 ✭✭✭niceonetom


    I actually have an 8mm long-handled allen wrench here, if you want a go with it?

    I would really recommend trying new pedals and shoes for the first time on a hilly 120km ride btw, the stack height will be different which will mean adjusting your saddle a micron or two. Getting the cleats angled just so can take a bit of dialling in also if you like your knees. I'm a bit princess-and-the-pea about all of this stuff now. I moved my right cleat back a millimeter a while ago and really notice it.

    If you get the pedals on today or tomorrow you will have a bit of time to get them set right before the blooms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Morgan


    penexpers wrote: »
    Or you could use a torque wrench to get more leverage.

    :eek:that's no way to treat a torque wrench


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭ROK ON


    niceonetom wrote: »
    I actually have an 8mm long-handled allen wrench here, if you want a go with it?

    I would really recommend trying new pedals and shoes for the first time on a hilly 120km ride btw, the stack height will be different which will mean adjusting your saddle a micron or two. Getting the cleats angled just so can take a bit of dialling in also if you like your knees. I'm a bit princess-and-the-pea about all of this stuff now. I moved my right cleat back a millimeter a while ago and really notice it.

    If you get the pedals on today or tomorrow you will have a bit of time to get them set right before the blooms.

    I presume that you mean do not try them 1st on Sunday?

    I have decided that, given that I am trying a new saddle on Sunday, I will wait until next week to try the pedals. SPD, son Sunday. Euro will have to wait another week.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Allen sockets are very useful for stuck pedals and the like. I have a set and with an adapter I can connect them to a 1/2" drive socket wrench.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,565 ✭✭✭thebouldwhacker


    Hey ROK, I thought you were doing the WestCork 200 on Sunday??

    Surely your not sulking after the football last weekend;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Húrin


    I find that hitting tools with a rubber mallet or even a piece of wood often works for more leverage, definitely much better than a hammer. As far as I know the best position for removing pedals is to have both tyres on the ground, and have someone clamping on the brakes. I removed a stubborn pedal yesterday by doing this and whacking the spanner with a piece of wood.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    If you have a bench vice it might be useful to remove the crank arm and clamp it in the vice. Some timber between the vice jaws and the crank arm might be advised to prevent unwanted scoring.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,860 ✭✭✭TinyExplosions


    I'll bring allen keys tomorrow, bring both sets of pedals, and we'll sort you out either before, or after the spin


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