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Mind Teaser...How can you have the nuts on 4th street and be drawing dead in PLO??

  • 18-06-2009 3:49pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 371 ✭✭


    Can anyone come up with the hand where Player A has the nuts on the turn and is drawing dead??

    It is possible. Also it can be done 3 handed I think.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Can anyone come up with the hand where Player A has the nuts on the turn and is drawing dead??

    It is possible. Also it can be done 3 handed I think.

    I assume the nuts in this case has to be a set?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,668 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hyzepher


    I would of thought a straight as the nut set always has outs on the river


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭Flushdraw


    I assume the nuts in this case has to be a set?

    Yeah thats what i was going to ask.

    e.g QQ on a Qs 9s 7x 3x board?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    a set could never be drawing dead if it's the nuts on the turn.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    PL ninja edited before me


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    a set could never be drawing dead if it's the nuts on the turn.

    I am pretty sure I have posted this before.

    5 handed, you have top set KK vs other sets, 2 pairs and 2 flushdraws and wraps - the board cant pair for you on the river and the only cards left in the deck complete wither a flush or a straight for one of your opponents.

    edit - plo obv


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    a set could never be drawing dead if it's the nuts on the turn.

    orly?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,668 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hyzepher


    That makes sense - cant think how it could be done three handed though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    I am pretty sure I have posted this before.

    5 handed, you have top set KK vs other sets, 2 pairs and 2 flushdraws and wraps - the board cant pair for you on the river and the only cards left in the deck complete wither a flush or a straight for one of your opponents.

    edit - plo obv

    i thought we were talking about being 3 handed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    also - it is possible to have the worst possible starting hand in PLO 2222 and still be 91% fav preflop


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    that one seems easy. i think. gimmie a sec.

    yeah 3456 w/o suits x 4.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 371 ✭✭SpencerJames


    The Coo was telling me this.

    I assumed it was a low straight vs 2 flush draws vs a higher wrap vs a set?

    can anyone do out the hand. Its possible 4 handed and i think 3 handed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    The Coo was telling me this.

    I assumed it was a low straight vs 2 flush draws vs a higher wrap vs a set?

    can anyone do out the hand. Its possible 4 handed and i think 3 handed

    well seeing as I was the one who told the Coo about it :)

    I have it on my other laptop at home so I will get it later and put it up, I have actually suggested it as an article topic to WPT mag.

    Basically I think the board should read Ks 10s 7c 4c and you hold KK22

    your four opponents hold cards containing combos of K1074 / QJ / 89 / 56 / with both flushdraws covered - it is not possible for the board to pair and every other card completes a straight or a flush


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    that one seems easy. i think. gimmie a sec.

    yeah 3456 w/o suits x 4.

    correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    Nope , can't work one out for 3 handed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭Flushdraw


    The Coo was telling me this.

    I assumed it was a low straight vs 2 flush draws vs a higher wrap vs a set?

    can anyone do out the hand. Its possible 4 handed and i think 3 handed

    6 handed here it is

    SB: 5c-7c-8s-9s
    BB: 3d-5s-7s-8d
    Seat 1: Ac-Ad-4c-4d
    Seat 2: Kd-Ks-Td-Ts
    Seat 3: As-Qs-Jh-9h
    Seat 4: Kh-Th-6d-6c

    Flop: Tc-6s-4s.

    Turn: Kc.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,668 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hyzepher


    looks right


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭jbravado


    well seeing as I was the one who told the Coo about it :)

    I have it on my other laptop at home so I will get it later and put it up, I have actually suggested it as an article topic to WPT mag.

    Basically I think the board should read Ks 10s 7c 4c and you hold KK22

    your four opponents hold cards containing combos of K1074 / QJ / 89 / 56 / with both flushdraws covered - it is not possible for the board to pair and every other card completes a straight or a flush


    Id still be rooting for the hold,disguisting fish that I am.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭Germag


    Once in the Merrion, I'm on the BB, had 7744, flop comes 447, turn 7, river 3, 9 players called the BB, a raise ,3 callers, seat 4 goes all in called by3, I go all in, called by 2, I lose to 4th seat who had straight flush! A photo was taken of this and I have it somewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 154 ✭✭percy007


    well seeing as I was the one who told the Coo about it :)

    I have it on my other laptop at home so I will get it later and put it up, I have actually suggested it as an article topic to WPT mag.

    Basically I think the board should read Ks 10s 7c 4c and you hold KK22

    your four opponents hold cards containing combos of K1074 / QJ / 89 / 56 / with both flushdraws covered - it is not possible for the board to pair and every other card completes a straight or a flush

    Bump!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,764 ✭✭✭DeadParrot


    really hungover but what if you have KKKx and the the board has the case K
    or any 3 of a kind in hand where the board runs the case card?



    ah misread it
    nevermind


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭Verbal_Kint


    i read an article in either bluff or card player by hellmuth that showed a scenario for this. not sure when. maybe 10-12 months ago.


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