Bord Gais laptop theft incident is Gais!

mcloughl

You really have to laugh at some of the quotes in this article....

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/0617/breaking70.htm

"We have had an aggressive system of encrypting since last July and this computer should have been encrypted before it was given to the staff member; it was a flaw in the system.”

flaw in the system, you mean the lazy helpdesk person didnt bother their ass installing pointsec, or whatever else they use


Mr Bunworth added while the machine was not encrypted, the data saved on it could only be accessed using a username and password.

lol and lol again, would that be the local administrator password or the cached AD credentials on the laptop? - reaching for my bootable media that allows local administrator passwords to be changed or good old backtrack to mount the local partitions

Seriously are these people advised prior to making statements?

Itsdacraic

mcloughl wrote: »

You really have to laugh at some of the quotes in this article....

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/0617/breaking70.htm

"We have had an aggressive system of encrypting since last July and this computer should have been encrypted before it was given to the staff member; it was a flaw in the system.”

flaw in the system, you mean the lazy helpdesk person didnt bother their ass installing pointsec, or whatever else they use


Mr Bunworth added while the machine was not encrypted, the data saved on it could only be accessed using a username and password.

lol and lol again, would that be the local administrator password or the cached AD credentials on the laptop? - reaching for my bootable media that allows local administrator passwords to be changed or good old backtrack to mount the local partitions

Seriously are these people advised prior to making statements?

They know they screwed up. Their statements are aimed at the 99.5% of people who wouldn't have a clue what you were on about above.

mcloughl

that's a fair point however the small percentage that do understand this are very often used as opinion leaders in press articles or tv/radio and can explain the lack of protection to the masses

FusionNet

Its getting a bit much lately, between Bor Gas, The health Board, AIB, Bank of Ireland.. I know of small businesses, Im talking about one man operations that have better security proticalls. This is the sixth or so BS excuse that these public bodies have come out with. You could be sure if it were you or me and we had one hundred clients details on a laptop they'd probably go after us with the full backing of the law.

Its the same as everything, the big guys can get away with it while the small guy gets screwed..

silly1

Agree with all of the above. Bord Gais apologies will have a lot more meaning if they state that they will compensate people for any consequential loss or costs as a result of their F***up.

Martyr

what are the odds of these thefts being an inside job?

about a week ago, staff (contractors) in certain sectors were told they'd be let go at the end of this month.

would this be enough to trigger theft of company property? i would guess so.

seems strange to me that these laptops could be taken from offices which are bound to have some level of physical security..

and if it was "professional" thieves, would they put their neck on the line for a couple of laptops?

i doubt the original story.

Max Power1

Martyr wrote: »

what are the odds of these thefts being an inside job?

about a week ago, staff (contractors) in certain sectors were told they'd be let go at the end of this month.

would this be enough to trigger theft of company property? i would guess so.

seems strange to me that these laptops could be taken from offices which are bound to have some level of physical security..

and if it was "professional" thieves, would they put their neck on the line for a couple of laptops?

i doubt the original story.

from a former employee, all BG offices have permanent security on-site, normally two security guards. Its an interesting point you make about it being an inside job. This would seem likely, as how else would someone who doesnt work there be able to gain access and leave the building with a laptop under their arm and successfully distract both members of security? Not to mention that to get to where the laptops/pcs are, you would need to use a security card at least 5 times (at different security doors)

ntlbell

Max Power1 wrote: »

from a former employee, all BG offices have permanent security on-site, normally two security guards. Its an interesting point you make about it being an inside job. This would seem likely, as how else would someone who doesnt work there be able to gain access and leave the building with a laptop under their arm and successfully distract both members of security? Not to mention that to get to where the laptops/pcs are, you would need to use a security card at least 5 times (at different security doors)

A member of this forum tail gated there way into board gais made his way to the main man's office and asked him for a job.

not that hard I would say.

You would be amazed how little guys earning 9e an hour pay to a guy in a canal+ suit.

MadsL

It's not suprising we are seeing laptop thefts - it's Summer.

There is a fairly standard MO going around for a while now. Scope out the propped open emergency exit (either extra 'cooling' or for smokers) wait for the main break (smokers emerge) ask for a light, get talking, tailgate or blag your way in (forgot my swipe) and then disappear around the building looking for laptops/handbags unattended.