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Suckered by empty promises

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    I always tend to find myself agreeing with Damien.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭floggg


    Is he saying that running long term will cause you to gain
    weight?

    He doesn't say anything of the sort. What he is saying is that steady state low intensity exercise won't help you lose it, at least not as much as some would make out.

    Exercise can't make you gain weight - only food can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,863 ✭✭✭kevpants


    I read this in the indo today and it has me a little worried
    Is he saying that running long term will cause you to gain
    weight? as you need to run more and more to get the same out of it.


    http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/independent-woman/health-fitness/shape-up-dont-be-suckered-by-empty-promises-1773723.html

    Why would you be worried? He is just saying the potential for aerobic exercise on it's own to burn fat diminishes over time as your body gets used to it. He then says to add muscle as a way to improve your body's ability to burn a larges amount of fat. That's his point a body with little muscle under the rolls of flab is gonna have a hard time burning it up after the initial honeymoon period of the daily walks wears off.

    The general weight loss community's aversion to doing anything to do with muscle puzzles me, all they want to do is strip fat. Some of the people I know with the worst figures are slim.

    Admitedly my interest in weight loss is nill but I just don't get the misinformation that's out there as the accepted norm. I come across it most often with women I know who are constantly looking to fit into some item of clothing for a holiday or wedding or somesuch event. The feckin looney notions they've accepted as gospel about weight loss are just astounding. I tend to say it to them and they of course notice the chair I'm sitting on is perilously close to buckling and that I'm sweating even though it's 12 degrees outside and disregard my opinion. Maybe rightly so, but if so many people are so into this and spend so much time on it, how come they believe every "push ups will make me look like Madonna", "You can eat 6 maringue nests for lunch cos they're only half a weightwatchers point each", "If I drink 8 litres of water a day I'll detox" theory that appears next to a picture of a celebrity who looks like she rattles when she walks?

    From what I can see this guy seems to speak a fair bit of sense, I don't really know his subject matter is pretty far from anything I know about (which isn't much anyway) but surely he has a massive readership if he's in a national broadsheet? Why do people ignore the balanced rational info and go for the plan that promises to have them holding out the waist band of oversized jeans for the camera if they promise to drink only lemon juice and lick moss off stones for 3 weeks?

    Oh god I rambled again didn't I?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭floggg


    Yea you did kev, but true that.

    i once tried to explain to a friend how the program her gym put her on that involved her doing 100plus reps on an ab machine was pants, and that the only way to get a flat stomach was to lose a bit of body fat only to be looked at like i had 10heads and be given out to for calling her fat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    floggg wrote: »
    He doesn't say anything of the sort. What he is saying is that steady state low intensity exercise won't help you lose it, at least not as much as some would make out.

    Exercise can't make you gain weight - only food can.
    totally agree with the above.

    The problem with fat loss in general is that most just put in a pair of runners go for a walk or run and EXPECT the pounds to just fall off.

    weights is number one priority, then cardio but of course neither make a blind bit of difference unless diet is tight.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭Assets Model


    ["You can eat 6 maringue nests for lunch cos they're only half a weightwatchers point each",

    I really hate that and I am an ordinary punter, I think ww is giving a bad example sometimes.

    I was kinda confued by the article though and I read his column religiously was he saying that cardio alone won't help weight loss beyond a certain point?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭floggg


    ["You can eat 6 maringue nests for lunch cos they're only half a weightwatchers point each",

    I really hate that and I am an ordinary punter, I think ww is giving a bad example sometimes.

    I was kinda confued by the article though and I read his column religiously was he saying that cardio alone won't help weight loss beyond a certain point?

    No - he is saying doing the same thing over and over again will eventually produce diminishing returns, as the body will adapt and get used to it, and therefore be no longer challenged.

    Same applies to all forms of exercise - if you do the same weights programme for 6 months, never changing the weight, eventually your body will adapt to it, and you get any results from it.

    Cardio still works, just mix it up, and keep upping the intenstiy, and keep the body guessing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    I was kinda confued by the article though and I read his column religiously was he saying that cardio alone won't help weight loss beyond a certain point?

    Sort of.

    He was saying that your body adapts to Cardio and the more you do it, the less fat you will burn doing it.

    He didn't quite get to a point where he was saying it wont help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    well knowing damien he is not big on steady pace cardio as most of the clients he works with ONLY do intervlas in his sessions so i think thats where he is coming from. Though i could be wrong


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    it will still burn the same calories even if you do the same stuff day by day but will have a diminished effect on getting you fitter, to do that you need to stay challenged.

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



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