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ireland a v georgia match finished early

  • 16-06-2009 9:27pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭


    The ref blew the whistle on 78 minutes due to thunderstorms in the area.

    Paddypower has decided to settle the market on he score line at the 78th minute.

    ladbrokes and celtic have voided all bets which l think was the right thing to do.

    does anyone the rules on this sort of thing.

    ireland won by 35 at the 78th minute and pp's h/cap was -40 at 10/11 which they later cut to 8/11 .
    lm thinking they must of took alot of money on the -40 h/cap.

    The customer service person l spoke to said because it was nearly over they are going by that score.
    l said does that mean the next time l back a dog and hes 5 lenghts clear in the home straight when the hare stops will you pay me a winner as the race was nearly over.

    bookies just seem to invent rules to suit them selfs imo.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,221 ✭✭✭Davey Devil


    If they game doesn't go 80 minutes the game has been abandoned and you are entitled to your moneyback. I'd take it to http://www.ibas-uk.com/ if you don't get a result through PP cust service.

    Paddy Power Rules:

    http://www.paddypower.com/bet?action=showpage&page=help_header.html&LANG=

    Betting Rules: Rugby Union/Rugby League Rules

    1. Unless otherwise stated all rugby bets are settled on 80 mins play.

    2. If a game is abandoned bets are void with the exception of First Tryscorer bets which will stand if a try has been scored prior to abandonment (last tryscorer bets are void). Bets are void for Special markets such as total number of points, number of tries etc on abandoned matches unless the respective number equals or exceeds our maximum quote at the time of abandonment, ie if we quote 35 points or more in the match and this number has been attained at the time of abandonment - bets on this market stand. This only applies when the number is equal to or greater than our maximum quote.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Saltash


    If they game doesn't go 80 minutes the game has been abandoned and you are entitled to your moneyback. I'd take it to http://www.ibas-uk.com/ if you don't get a result through PP cust service.

    Paddy Power Rules:

    http://www.paddypower.com/bet?action=showpage&page=help_header.html&LANG=

    Betting Rules: Rugby Union/Rugby League Rules

    1. Unless otherwise stated all rugby bets are settled on 80 mins play.

    2. If a game is abandoned bets are void with the exception of First Tryscorer bets which will stand if a try has been scored prior to abandonment (last tryscorer bets are void). Bets are void for Special markets such as total number of points, number of tries etc on abandoned matches unless the respective number equals or exceeds our maximum quote at the time of abandonment, ie if we quote 35 points or more in the match and this number has been attained at the time of abandonment - bets on this market stand. This only applies when the number is equal to or greater than our maximum quote.


    Bets were settled on the official result from the governing body. The governing body did not class the match as abandoned therefore your bet was settled accordingly


    Had Ireland managed to cover the spread you would have been paid as a winner, but Ladbrokes and Celtics would have made it void.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭Juwwi


    Saltash wrote: »
    Bets were settled on the official result from the governing body. The governing body did not class the match as abandoned therefore your bet was settled accordingly


    Had Ireland managed to cover the spread you would have been paid as a winner, but Ladbrokes and Celtics would have made it void.


    To be honest l think if ireland had of coveing the h'cap paddypower would of voided all bets.
    They were the lowest at -40 all other bookies were around -42 or -43..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭Cremated


    I was using 888sport and I took Georgia +42 points and they paid me out on the bet winning,

    I wont complain :D...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Saltash


    robbie1977 wrote: »
    To be honest l think if ireland had of coveing the h'cap paddypower would of voided all bets.
    They were the lowest at -40 all other bookies were around -42 or -43..


    No they wouldn't, sure they paid out on Georgia + 40. They didnt void winners and make losers losers. It was settled to a full result win or lose.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭bigbadben


    Saltash wrote: »
    No they wouldn't, sure they paid out on Georgia + 40. They didnt void winners and make losers losers. It was settled to a full result win or lose.

    Yeah but I'd say about 80% of the money they took on the game was on -40 and not +40.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    bigbadben wrote: »
    Yeah but I'd say about 80% of the money they took on the game was on -40 and not +40.

    No I backed Georgia + 40 and was paid :D I can see why you feel agrieved but I dont think they have done anything wrong here tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭Juwwi


    Saltash wrote: »
    No they wouldn't, sure they paid out on Georgia + 40. They didnt void winners and make losers losers. It was settled to a full result win or lose.


    what lm trying to say is they paid out on georgia +40 because it was profitable for them.

    its not sour grapes on my behalf.
    If Ireland had of been winning by 45 at that time and they had of voiding
    all bets l wouldnt of felt robbed.

    it happens all the time in betting like when a golfer is winning his 2 ball match by 5 shots and the other player pulls out because of injury all
    bets on that 2 ball are voided.you just take it on the chin and move on.

    in tennis matches a player could be winning 6-0 6-0 5-0 and if the other
    player pulls out through injury all bets are void.

    That fact of the matter is a rugby match is 80 minutes long and only 78 minutes were played.

    How anybody can say that paddy power were fair in settling
    the match on the 78 minutes score is wrong full stop.

    As l said earlier bookies seem to make their own rules up some times and theres sweet f**** all anyone can do about it.

    Luckily I didnt have much money on but thats not the point realy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,221 ✭✭✭Davey Devil


    Saltash wrote: »
    Bets were settled on the official result from the governing body. The governing body did not class the match as abandoned therefore your bet was settled accordingly


    Had Ireland managed to cover the spread you would have been paid as a winner, but Ladbrokes and Celtics would have made it void.

    Why do Paddy Powers rules not reflect this then? I don't see anything in their rules about following the "official result from the governing body"

    Their rules state the result is settled on 80 mins play, which did not happen.

    There's far to much of this crap going on in the betting industry. They should all sit down and thrash out the same rules for everyone. That way their would far less disputes after the result is known.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Saltash


    Why do Paddy Powers rules not reflect this then? I don't see anything in their rules about following the "official result from the governing body"

    Their rules state the result is settled on 80 mins play, which did not happen.

    There's far to much of this crap going on in the betting industry. They should all sit down and thrash out the same rules for everyone. That way their would far less disputes after the result is known.

    In the exact same rule you are quoting, the next line states "if a game is abandoned". The game was not classed as abandoned it was ended early. For an example, a race going off earlier or later than an advertised off time does not class the race/meeting as abandoned, and bets would still stand, and you would be pretty Pissed off if your horse won and it was voided.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,221 ✭✭✭Davey Devil


    Saltash wrote: »
    In the exact same rule you are quoting, the next line states "if a game is abandoned". The game was not classed as abandoned it was ended early. For an example, a race going off earlier or later than an advertised off time does not class the race/meeting as abandoned, and bets would still stand, and you would be pretty Pissed off if your horse won and it was voided.

    That is the worst example. To compare those two situations is farcical.

    If the horse race goes off early or late the race still gets completed. The horses run from the start to the finish.

    If the rugby game ends after 78 mins when the game is played over 80 mins, it is not complete.

    That is my opinion and the opinion of Ladbrokes and Celtic. They made the correct call, Paddy Power did not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 Irishbugger


    Nothing to do with the argument really but if a horse race 'goes off' early, it usually ends up void.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 yaboyabobo


    When u place a bet,u are at the mercy of the bookies.Their small print is so small its invisible but I must say PP has made a big difference to betting.The big boys no longer have things all their own way.Do ladbrokes,corals or hills give u a little leeway?Of course not so don't be too quick to lambast Paddy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭bigbadben


    yaboyabobo wrote: »
    When u place a bet,u are at the mercy of the bookies.Their small print is so small its invisible but I must say PP has made a big difference to betting.The big boys no longer have things all their own way.Do ladbrokes,corals or hills give u a little leeway?Of course not so don't be too quick to lambast Paddy.

    You're right they're no bigger a **** then the others only just as bad.


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