22lr (subs) scope with BDC. Does such a scope exist off the shelf.

ivanthehunter

Would consider one if the price was right!

i like the idea of using a purpose built BDC scope as opposed to target turrets. I know the theory's are similar but the BDC is specifically marked for distance rather that purely clicks up and down.

Some might think that a 22lr is not deserving of such a scope but the extreme trajectory of this little caliber over such short distances might change their thinking.

Also its quicker once practiced.

Vegeta

Just buy a mildot scope with reticle in the ffp and make up drop tables and use the dots instead of dialing it in

ivanthehunter

Vegeta wrote: »

Just buy a mildot scope with reticle in the ffp and make up drop tables and use the dots instead of dialing it in

Thats an option alright but it far easier to aim with precession on an adjusted cross hair.

Mil-dot hold over/under is good when there are multiple targets that are needed to fill the Poachers pocket!..
But the adjusted cross hair method is the precursor to one shot on Kill

clivej

Ivan I posted up a 22lr drop chart a few weeks back that works quite well out to 140yards.

Vegeta

ivanthehunter wrote: »

But the adjusted cross hair method is the precursor to one shot on Kill

And the precursor to that is just dialling it in.

To be honest I always think of those types of scopes as gimmicks but again to be honest I wouldn't be very familiar with them. What if you buy a .17HMR in the future or a .223 can you adjust the cross hairs to suit the drop of these calibres or will it only ever work on a .22lr?

As you know Winchester Subs and Eley Subs will have different ballistic curves so can these scopes be adjusted to account for differences in brand of ammunition?

Again if it were me and I didn't like dialling in, it would be a mil dot scope in ffp, it would be just as easy and accurate after you've done the drop tables, can be used on other rifles and drop tables can be made up for any ammo I wish to use including higher velocity rounds. That's a win, win and a win for the mil dot

milkerman

I used red enamel paint to place a dot on the turret of my scope to give correct elevation at 25, 50, 75, 88 & 100 yds. (Zero at 50)This gives close to pinpoint accuracy with Eley subs but the marks are specific to that brand. I could use a different colour to mark dots specific to another brand but basically couldn't be arsed! Out hunting I am really lazy and just estimate holdover or under. The trajectory is loopy but easy enough to learn fairly accurately. The hardest skill is accurately estimating the range to Mr Rabbit - can be difficult on open flat land with no features.
I reckon the extra spent on BDC for a .22 would be better spent on a scope with better quality glass or finer reticle.

kakashka

Blank turrets,some scope manufacturers do such now
Mark up as milkerman suggested

marlin vs

I had a B.S.A. sweet 17 (B.D.C.) on my 17hmr, and got rid of it, it was a heap of rubbish, i'm using mildot's now with better result's, I was advised not to get one but I wouldn't listen I had to see for myself, that's my experience for what it's worth.

ivanthehunter

Vegeta wrote: »

And the precursor to that is just dialling it in.

To be honest I always think of those types of scopes as gimmicks but again to be honest I wouldn't be very familiar with them. What if you buy a .17HMR in the future or a .223 can you adjust the cross hairs to suit the drop of these calibres or will it only ever work on a .22lr?

As you know Winchester Subs and Eley Subs will have different ballistic curves so can these scopes be adjusted to account for differences in brand of ammunition?

Again if it were me and I didn't like dialling in, it would be a mil dot scope in ffp, it would be just as easy and accurate after you've done the drop tables, can be used on other rifles and drop tables can be made up for any ammo I wish to use including higher velocity rounds. That's a win, win and a win for the mil dot

OK, these scopes come with either 1/4moa, 1/2moa, 1moa or 1cm@100M click adjustments. They are, to all intense purpose they exact same as target turrets except that instead of simply reading off the clicks of moa they are graduated so as to read distance to target. None of these scopes work exactly right unless your using the exact ammo that they were built for and a 24inch barrel or what ever spec is stated with them.

Professionals using them train at incremental ranges of 25 yards and the take not of the small errors that they find. So you might find that once set to two hundred yards, you're still an inch high. So when hunting set to 200yards and retard by 2 clicks- now you spot on at that range.
I except that a regular scope can be transplanted to another rifle but I still like the idea of simply dialing the distant rather.

Others here have suggested making you own from blanks and TBH that seems like a reasonable idea........ Milkerman Thanks

kakashka

Vegeta wrote: »

And the precursor to that is just dialling it in.

To be honest I always think of those types of scopes as gimmicks but again to be honest I wouldn't be very familiar with them. What if you buy a .17HMR in the future or a .223 can you adjust the cross hairs to suit the drop of these calibres or will it only ever work on a .22lr?

As you know Winchester Subs and Eley Subs will have different ballistic curves so can these scopes be adjusted to account for differences in brand of ammunition?

Again if it were me and I didn't like dialling in, it would be a mil dot scope in ffp, it would be just as easy and accurate after you've done the drop tables, can be used on other rifles and drop tables can be made up for any ammo I wish to use including higher velocity rounds. That's a win, win and a win for the mil dot

Also no problem to mil with SFP

ivanthehunter

kakashka wrote: »

Also no problem to mil with SFP

Mils in SFP, I know it works but IMO it to many things to think about. either i use full mag or lowest mag.

I just think that a good BDC (either factory made or home made) will speed up shots..

foxshooter243

ivanthehunter wrote: »

Mils in SFP, I know it works but IMO it to many things to think about. either i use full mag or lowest mag.

I just think that a good BDC (either factory made or home made) will speed up shots..

Ivan , as Vegetta says, make up a drop chart and dial it in;)

kakashka

ivanthehunter wrote: »

Mils in SFP, I know it works but IMO it to many things to think about. either i use full mag or lowest mag.

I just think that a good BDC (either factory made or home made) will speed up shots..

I'd agree,just making the point that it's not just a FFP thing.
Seems to be good selection of after market turret's available,some kind of engraving drill to mark as you like,never done but should not be too difficult,or bit of heat shrink over factory turret and mark somehow,save turrets

benhurt1

I have been using a Bushnell Banner 3-9 x 32 with BDC for over 20 years on a Sako T72 .22lr. The scope came with factory BDC rings for various calibers but none for .22lr. I use the blank and have it marked for Subs and HV. It's excellent! I have been looking at the 40 & 50 power versions lately as the oul eyesight is starting to go, only for that I'd keep using it, it's faultless.

benhurt1

https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/31169/17831.jpg

There is a bad photo of the scope here!