On-Campus Accommodation 09/10

scruttocks

Anyone know when we find out about where we'll be living next year? Where have you applied for?

I'm currently praying for Botany Bay.

dan719

They will be a avaliable tomorrow for sure. (also you told me it was today; such lies). Also it will be goldsmith for you Tom.:P

ApeXaviour

It was June 17th last year, if that's any indication. In botany bay currently, hoping for front square.

Goldsmith's not that bad. At least you have living space and can cook, not like in those dinky kitchens!

Okay so the lighting and wall colours might be a little crap in Goldsmith, and furniture might be a bit garish. Myself and one of my yank flatmate got throws and stand lamps from a charity shop, and put posters on the wall. It ended up really quite nice looking. Very livable, I miss it.

rjt

I was in the accommodation office last week, and they said they'd let us know in the next week or two. I'm hoping for Botany Bay anyway.

Pet

Just for the craic, I've rung the accommodation office 4 or five times within the past week. Each time, I've gotten a different answer, ranging from "over the next few weeks" [vague much?] to "By Friday".

Take from that what you will, but it's almost always the middle of June at the earliest.

emollett

Just got an offer for Goldsmith hall. Anyone lived there before? I'm somewhat torn, is it as bad as i've heard?
Also, seems a bit odd that the deadline to reply is the same day as they send out the offers!

ApeXaviour

My flatmate just got offered goldsmith, and we applied together. Nothing for me as of yet...

Edit:

Actually what was the website you got sent to check? Perhaps I could check via that, if you'd be so kind as to provide it.

Cheers

ApeXaviour

Is the website: https://accommodation.tcd.ie/StudentBookings/
?

It seems to be down unfortunately

emollett

https://accommodation.tcd.ie/studentbookings
If you log on it tells you if you have an offer. I got an email about it though.

edit: It seems to be working for me..

extra edit: seems they made a mistake and the acceptance date is the 25th. Gives a bit more time for considering!

rjt

Goldsmith for me too.

JC 2K3

Goldsmith....

It's made out to be really bad, but I've never been enlightened as to why...

Kwekubo

Go go Goldhall house 61 On the plus side I have no excuse not to go to the gym now.

Liquorice

Goldsmith! See you all there, haha. I was, like everyone else, hoping for Botany Bay but I guess it's true that Goldsmith is for 3rd year schols. I always thought that was a myth 'cause I've a mate who got Botany Bay in his first year of schols but whatever. I only applied with one person, so I hope the others in the flat aren't going to be axe murderers or anything.

Karlusss

Botany Bay!

Now all I have to do is spend the rest of the summer feverishly studying Irish so my ruse doesn't come apart.

only joking my ruse will never come apart

Ron DMC

Karlusss wrote: »

Botany Bay!

Now all I have to do is spend the rest of the summer feverishly studying Irish so my ruse doesn't come apart.

only joking my ruse will never come apart

The Scéim Cónaithe is in Botany Bay?!? Why do they keep moving it?

emollett

Seems a lot of us are in goldsmith, anyone else house 64?

Not all 3rd year schols get goldsmith, last year i know there were a few in the gmb.

Karlusss

Heard a rumour that they cut the amount of people they took in or something, so Botany Bat made more sense than Front Square.

Or something like that.

Pet

Yay, GMB!

Most of the Scholars I know got either Goldsmith or New Square in third year, although a few jammy feckers got the GMB [really big rooms too, bigger than my one next year :-/]. Then people paired up the year after and got nicer apartments in Front Square/Botany Bay.

Thirdfox

Am I correct in thinking that Pearse street has no kitchens? The website seems to be really sketchy on the details as to what facilities come with the room... can anyone enlighten me about Pearse Street accommodation? i.e. is it just a bedroom?

goingnowhere

Karlusss wrote: »

Heard a rumour that they cut the amount of people they took in or something, so Botany Bat made more sense than Front Square.

Or something like that.

They did since the builders are moving into New Square this Summer

Thirdfox wrote: »

Am I correct in thinking that Pearse street has no kitchens? The website seems to be really sketchy on the details as to what facilities come with the room... can anyone enlighten me about Pearse Street accommodation? i.e. is it just a bedroom?

There is a kitchen, but its the size of a phonebox, tiny but its better fitted out that a New Square one. It depends on which house and floor you are in some are better than others. The modern rooms in Pearse Street, 47-48 & 51-52 come with fairly decent sized bedrooms, its pot luck with the others

Thirdfox

Private kitchen? Is there any sort of a living room or are there communal areas etc.?

Forgive me if this info is all online - the accommodation website does not seem to display it at the very least.

goingnowhere

Kitchen is shared between 4 and 7 people depending on the house and floor

No common area, living room. But the bedrooms in the new Pearse Street are generous in size and they are ensuite.

Trust me on the kitchen is small, but you can cook a full meal without problems.

Thirdfox

My offer is ensuite though I guess it's pot luck with a room in no. 49. Final question (I promise!) if the kitchen is that small where do you go to eat? Is there a dining area with tables and stuff? Surely not back in your bedroom?

Oh and the kitchen is still well stocked with appliances (fridge/freezer, microwave, oven etc.) right?

ApeXaviour

Thirdfox wrote: »

Is there a dining area with tables and stuff? Surely not back in your bedroom?

Yep, back in your bedroom. But they throw in a little dining (i.e. coffee) table and a chair or two in your room to make it kosher.

Thirdfox wrote: »

Oh and the kitchen is still well stocked with appliances (fridge/freezer, microwave, oven etc.) right?

In 47, 48, 51 and 52 there is only a microwave, two little fridges, two (crappy) hobs a kettle, a toaster and a sink. Good news is that it gets cleaned for you mostly. Bad news is you can't keep any dishes or cutlery in there, or the cleaning lady will give out to you.

House 49 and 50 are differenly set up. I think they have ovens, 4 hobs and one large fridge in there, but more people sharing the kitchen (i think)



EDIT:
It's very odd that I still haven't gotten an offer. I have an email receipt of my application, perhaps they lost it... :rolleyes: Looks like I'll have to pay a visit to them.

oogyoop

Congratulations to everybody who was offered accommodation... I logged in this morning to check the status of my application and it said that my application "had not yet been reviewed".

I emailed about this and my reply apologised that my application had not been successful.

I can't help but be disappointed by this... and don't really understand why.

I'm in very good academic standing, in a demanding course (medicine, though I get that all courses are demanding), will be a fourth year student next year and have been heavily involved in one club and four societies since first year! I was even on the committee for two this year. I've been a dedicated class rep since first year!

What more could I have done? As an incoming fourth year student who's contributed a lot to college life, I don't know what more I could have done.

Does anybody have any idea about the criteria used to evaluate applications?

HerringKing

What type of accommodation do you get in Front Square?

Jonathan

oogyoop wrote: »

What more could I have done? As an incoming fourth year student who's contributed a lot to college life, I don't know what more I could have done.

Be a scholar..

Mark200

Jonathan wrote: »

Be a scholar..

I thought they got free accommodation anyway?

Kwekubo

I get the impression that there have been some issues this year with the changeover to a new computer system. The application website was offline for a day or two on at least one occasion, and apparently some scholars were left out of allocations because their details weren't correctly logged in the system.

just-joe

Here are the allocation criteria:

The criteria which will be used to allocate rooms on Campus are drawn up each year by the Registrar of Chambers and Warden in consultation with the Welfare Officer of the Students Union. The criteria used for allocating rooms for the academic year 2008/2009 are outlined below.

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Students with entitlements, e.g. Scholars, are allocated rooms according to the regulations governing their entitlement.
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All remaining rooms will be allocated so as to meet the objectives of creating a vibrant academic community in line with the vision of College outlined in the Strategic Plan.
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In order to give as many students as possible the experience of living in college residences, the expectation is that students would be allocated a place on campus for no more than one year (unless students have an entitlement to rooms).
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Applicants will be distributed according to the proposed distribution given below.
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Evidence of significant contribution to college life will be taken into account.
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While preference will be given to applicants from outside Dublin, all applications will be considered.
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Where other criteria are equal, rooms will be allocated by random selection.
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CANVASSING WILL RESULT IN THE APPLICATION BEING REJECTED.

I haven't got an offer yet but I'm waiting patiently.
A friend of mine reckoned that because I was in Halls in first year, they treat this as campus so my chances are lessened. If someone could clarify this it would be great, I always thought this wouldn't matter as I know loads of people who have done both, my sister for one.

Its just really annoying that they don't tell you when they're going to send out the offers, and apparently they won't tel you if you're not going to get it (they wont send a refusal), which is just ridiculous?!

But yeah, I as I'm sure loads others will be really disappointed because I'm doing well academically in a tough course, am the captain of a sports club as well as being involved in a few others, and also on the committee of a soc - it'll just seem like an injustice if I don't get a place!

emollett

just-joe wrote: »

I haven't got an offer yet but I'm waiting patiently.
A friend of mine reckoned that because I was in Halls in first year, they treat this as campus so my chances are lessened. If someone could clarify this it would be great, I always thought this wouldn't matter as I know loads of people who have done both, my sister for one.

Its just really annoying that they don't tell you when they're going to send out the offers, and apparently they won't tel you if you're not going to get it (they wont send a refusal), which is just ridiculous?!

But yeah, I as I'm sure loads others will be really disappointed because I'm doing well academically in a tough course, am the captain of a sports club as well as being involved in a few others, and also on the committee of a soc - it'll just seem like an injustice if I don't get a place!

Halls generally doesn't count as campus for anything so i doubt it does for this. I was in halls for a year and a half and got campus this year so i don't think they take it into account.
If you are a sports club captain, did you try applying through DUCAC for some of the rooms they are allocated? The club i am involved in applied but i haven't yet heard if we were successful.

just-joe

Yeah thats cool about halls not mattering, nice one.

emollett wrote: »

If you are a sports club captain, did you try applying through DUCAC for some of the rooms they are allocated? The club i am involved in applied but i haven't yet heard if we were successful.

At the end of 2nd year I applied with the current captain (the judo club this is) to get club rooms, so I'd have them while I was captain in 3rd year. She told me there wouldn't be much chance, and she was proved right, we didn't get it.

Since then from speaking to different sports people, captains amogst others, and correct me if I'm wrong, but the story is this:

There are only 8 club rooms and the division is set in stone, doesnt change from year to year, and goes something like (and I'm sorry as well for mentioning particular club names) two for rugby, two for rowing, two for cricket etc..

So though I'm captain next year again, we didn't bother to apply this year. It would be great if you were successful though, I hope you get it!

emollett

just-joe wrote: »

Yeah thats cool about halls not mattering, nice one.



At the end of 2nd year I applied with the current captain (the judo club this is) to get club rooms, so I'd have them while I was captain in 3rd year. She told me there wouldn't be much chance, and she was proved right, we didn't get it.

Since then from speaking to different sports people, captains amogst others, and correct me if I'm wrong, but the story is this:

There are only 8 club rooms and the division is set in stone, doesnt change from year to year, and goes something like (and I'm sorry as well for mentioning particular club names) two for rugby, two for rowing, two for cricket etc..

So though I'm captain next year again, we didn't bother to apply this year. It would be great if you were successful though, I hope you get it!

I wouldn't be getting the rooms, i'm off the committee next year but the captain and one other would. It's the rifle club, and i think we may have once got a room for a captain, but he may have not got it through ducac but the normal way. I heard about there only being 8 rooms too though, damn.

panda142

In order to apply for campus accom, am I right in saying you need to apply with your TCD student no.?

I have been offered a place on postgrad next year but cannot accept until after next week when I send them in my final results. So how can I go about applying for campus??

goingnowhere

panda142 wrote: »

In order to apply for campus accom, am I right in saying you need to apply with your TCD student no.?

I have been offered a place on postgrad next year but cannot accept until after next week when I send them in my final results. So how can I go about applying for campus??

Postgrad applications are normally processed separately after the undergrad allocation is done which is still ongoing.

To apply you must have a 8 digit TCD ID number, if you have applied and offered a place you should have a number already would be in the form of 091xxxxx or 092xxxxx somewhere on the documentation you have recieved

just-joe

I just got an email from residences saying I haven't got a place, and if I want to be put on the waiting list then email them... I did, and I still hope I get it, but this is super-annoying already....

Are there many other people in the same situation?

misfit_crimson

I got an offer for a single room in botany bay. But they wont allow me to see any of the rooms before i make a decision? is it just me or is that pretty shady?
has anyone roomed in botany bay and could possibly let me know what the place is in fact like? ill be sharing with another single, and one double (possibly a couple or maybe one person).

Babbit

just-joe wrote: »

I just got an email from residences saying I haven't got a place, and if I want to be put on the waiting list then email them... I did, and I still hope I get it, but this is super-annoying already....

Are there many other people in the same situation?

I got the same, told them to go f themselves in an email back. Going into fourth year and I've never lived on campus. Plenty of Dublin brats getting on campus accomodation this year and I've never even applied before. Its a fecking joke (I live 3 hours from Dublin, + a flat is a lot cheaper.)

ApeXaviour

misfit_crimson wrote: »

I got an offer for a single room in botany bay. But they wont allow me to see any of the rooms before i make a decision? is it just me or is that pretty shady?
has anyone roomed in botany bay and could possibly let me know what the place is in fact like? ill be sharing with another single, and one double (possibly a couple or maybe one person).

It's not shady, just lazy. The botany bay apartments are definitely on the better end of the campus accommodation spectrum. I'd suggest you accept your offer.

A bit bitter babbit?

AlanSparrowhawk

My experience of botany bay was that while they are very nice apartments (and based on location and decor) nicer than goldsmith (but probably a rung behind front square) the rooms are a little variable. But basically in agreement with Apexaviour, if you want to live on campus botany bay (even the worse room) are very nice.

Señor Juárez

I got an offer for 65.2.x in Goldsmith... not too sure if I'll accept it, as I wanted one of those Botany Bay/New Square double rooms where you get a kitchen and living room to yourself. Those rooms which are just a bedroom with a desk in it are a little depressing.

Not to mention the cost, just getting somewhere around college might be cheaper and better. And also not have the constant headache of dealing with the extremely uppity Trinity security.

I've heard that some Goldsmith rooms have a kitchen/bedroom between 3 people, and some have them between 5 people... I don't suppose anyone could clarify which rooms this'd be the case for?

just-joe

Hey everybody, so a Facebook group has been started in reference to loads of people not gettin a place...

TCD Campus Accomodation Room Allocation 2009

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=92912349287#/wall.php?id=92912349287

Has anybody new been offered a place? I'm still waiting but have practically accepted defeat..

Jonathan

just-joe wrote: »

Hey everybody, so a Facebook group has been started in reference to loads of people not gettin a place...

TCD Campus Accomodation Room Allocation 2009

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=92912349287#/wall.php?id=92912349287

Has anybody new been offered a place? I'm still waiting but have practically accepted defeat..

Do you honestly think that a facebook group will get you a room on campus?

JC 2K3

What evidence is there to suggest that undeserving students got rooms?

Pet

just-joe wrote: »

Hey everybody, so a Facebook group has been started in reference to loads of people not gettin a place...

TCD Campus Accomodation Room Allocation 2009

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=92912349287#/wall.php?id=92912349287

Has anybody new been offered a place? I'm still waiting but have practically accepted defeat..

Blah, blah, blah. A bunch of whiney Team Englanders with a collective inflated sense of self-importance and entitlement. Booh-****ing-hoo.

tolosenc

JC 2K3 wrote: »

What evidence is there to suggest that undeserving students got rooms?

Well, you got one... :P

Liquorice

Did I read somewhere that they're reluctant to give residences to people on the committees of big clubs and socs 'cause they're seen as more likely to have big parties? Sounds like a conspiracy theory though.

All this bitching about Dublin 'brats' getting campus is annoying; you don't apply for campus because you need a place to live in Dublin (there's Gardiner Street, the Docklands, Rathmines, Portobello for that).

JumAPond

Anyone get into Trinity Hall? I'd rather not deal with the 'long' distance commute, but coming from the US its tempting to take it so I don't have to worry come leaving the airport.

just-joe

Jonathan wrote: »

Do you honestly think that a facebook group will get you a room on campus?

Ha no, I think Facebook is probably powerless when faced with the junior dean, but theres nothing wrong with complaining about something thats wrong? The situation is really crap, as there is plenty of evidence of undeserving people getting a place, I know of a few people who couldn't be less anti-college who have got a place anyway!

JC 2K3

What kind of anti-college person attends and applies for on campus rooms in college?

Thirdfox

just-joe wrote: »

Ha no, I think Facebook is probably powerless when faced with the junior dean, but theres nothing wrong with complaining about something thats wrong? The situation is really crap, as there is plenty of evidence of undeserving people getting a place, I know of a few people who couldn't be less anti-college who have got a place anyway!

The only way someone could be anti-college would be someone who gets the rooms and still lives at home.

Otherwise, those who enjoy college extracurricular life and those who enjoy its academic are all "pro-college".

Sounds like begrudgery to me. Unless you know someone's personal situation very well I doubt you can comment on how deserving they are of getting a place.