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BNP - catch 22

  • 10-06-2009 4:39am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭


    Should be interesting to see how they're gonna get around this one
    1. The BNP winning European parliament seats means they have a budget to employ staff and various sub-contractors.
    2. These budgets and staff positions are subject to anti-discrimination laws, as they come from public funds.
    3. Watch out for when these positions are advertised. If anyone sees them advertised, chuck the ads about on as many social networks, blogs etc as possible.
    4. Man the Harpoons - If you fall outside of the BNP's discriminatory membership criteria, due to being black, Jewish, whatever, apply. If you are white British and want to help out this plan anyway, just spread the idea about.
    5. When you/they don't get the job, take it to an employment tribunal.
    6. ????
    7. Profit.

    http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6078

    Job interview:

    BNP rep: "You can't have a job darkie, it's against the beliefs of this political party"

    Applicant: "As a political party you are obliged to be an equal oppertunities employer"

    BNP rep: "See, this kind of rabble rousing is exactly why we shouldn't be letting you people into this country in the first place"

    Applicant: "I was born in this country and my family have been here for 3 generations, and I would like to point out your parents only moved here in the 60's Mr O Shaughnessy"

    BNP rep: "Shut up nigger!"


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    If they were clever, which they're not, they would hire the black and the jew. They could always make their jobs so menial and boring. They would have a defense to their members that they are trying to change employment laws.
    Also I'd imagine working for them, especially as a non white christian, would make your skin crawl and you'd end up leaving or getting fired for doing something stupid like sabotage etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭waraf


    What happens if the Jewish/other minority person wins in court and the judge orders the BNP to hire him/her? Actually having to work for them would be a nightmare...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    British Petroleum have got what against the blacks now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    British Petroleum have got what against the blacks now?

    Don't be stupid! It's the BNP Paribas bank


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    Lol I can see the advertisement now...

    Wanted
    1 darkie
    Job includes
    Holding a piniata. That is all


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    I don't see why any organisation can find itself FORCED to employ a minority. That sounds more racist to me tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    I don't see why any organisation can find itself FORCED to employ a minority. That sounds more racist to me tbh

    No one is being forced to hire anyone. The point of the legislation is that everyone regardless of skin colour has a fair change at a job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 911 ✭✭✭994


    They already allow Jews into the BNP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭Highsider


    :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    They already allow Jews into the BNP
    Yep, alos the law only says that the BNP must not specify skin colour on the job aplication, however it will be flippin' obvious when it comes to interview what skin colour the candidate is.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,373 ✭✭✭Executive Steve


    Well they already accidentally employed a black dj to play at their christmas party a few years ago because "he sounded white on the telephone"...


    :D

    Garner, branch organiser for Croydon, South London, admitted: "Everyone was a bit alarmed when the DJ turned up. A lot of people weren't happy - I wasn't, really - and one or two walked out. But some younger members thought it was a bit ironic and danced away the night. Traditionally someone stands and says what's happened in the year or in the elections. But it was a bit difficult to say we were even the BNP. We even had to be careful what we said when we did the raffle so we didn't offend this guy. What are you supposed to do? Tell him to clear off? It was very, very embarrassing."


    https://www.indymedia.ie/article/67855?userlanguage=ga&save_prefs=true


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    Well they already accidentally employed a black dj to play at their christmas party a few years ago because "he sounded white on the telephone"...


    :D





    https://www.indymedia.ie/article/67855?userlanguage=ga&save_prefs=true

    That is magnificent.

    But seriously, being in the public eye will only serve to weaken the BNP. It's all very well going rabble, rabble, rabble from the sidelines, but by the next elections, when the BNP have sat in european and/or local parliment and done nothing except glower at people with darker skin than they, they'll be booted out fairly sharpish.

    Sort of like the greens here, but with more awful policies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,185 ✭✭✭asdasd


    No one is being forced to hire anyone. The point of the legislation is that everyone regardless of skin colour has a fair change at a job.

    How does that work for chinese restaurants?

    The Legislation is more or less aspirational. And, far from the BNP suffering if it is enforced they will merely issue a press release documenting all the organisations which are minority dominated - i.e. a mosque which only employs muslims ( although religions may be exempt), or an ethnic organisation which only allows minorities.

    you know, like an Irish association. Although they wont mention that one.

    Most anti-discriminatory legislation is either aspirational, or applies to the obvious targets. It is, i think, illegal to specify gender when letting a house or room.

    And yet. Female only adds abound.

    The BNP would make hay with any legislation which forces them to hire against their wil. And win more votes.

    All of this is stupid. To defeat the BNP keep asking them about their repatriation policy. Thats the racist thing. Many voters are probably unaware of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,738 ✭✭✭Naos


    Garner, branch organiser for Croydon, South London, admitted: "Everyone was a bit alarmed when the DJ turned up. A lot of people weren't happy - I wasn't, really - and one or two walked out. But some younger members thought it was a bit ironic and danced away the night. Traditionally someone stands and says what's happened in the year or in the elections. But it was a bit difficult to say we were even the BNP. We even had to be careful what we said when we did the raffle so we didn't offend this guy. What are you supposed to do? Tell him to clear off? It was very, very embarrassing."

    Doesn't sound very hardcore of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    asdasd wrote: »
    How does that work for chinese restaurants?

    Same rules would apply for them.
    asdasd wrote: »
    The Legislation is more or less aspirational. And, far from the BNP suffering if it is enforced they will merely issue a press release documenting all the organisations which are minority dominated - i.e. a mosque which only employs muslims ( although religions may be exempt), or an ethnic organisation which only allows minorities.

    Well, if you need a Muslim preacher, he would kind of need to be Muslim :D. I am pretty sure they wouldn't be able to discriminate for supports roles that have feck all to do with Religous practice.

    Anyway, the big difference here is that they (the BNP) are in the EU parliment.
    asdasd wrote: »
    you know, like an Irish association. Although they wont mention that one.

    I am not white, but seeing as I am an Irish citizen (born and lived here all my life), I am sure they would have no issue allowing me to join an Irish association. Also, again these guys wouldn't be in any kind of Parliment.
    asdasd wrote: »
    Most anti-discriminatory legislation is either aspirational, or applies to the obvious targets. It is, i think, illegal to specify gender when letting a house or room.

    And yet. Female only adds abound.

    Are you sure it illegal to specify gender?
    asdasd wrote: »
    The BNP would make hay with any legislation which forces them to hire against their wil. And win more votes.

    All of this is stupid. To defeat the BNP keep asking them about their repatriation policy. Thats the racist thing. Many voters are probably unaware of it.

    How is hiring only white people, not racist? I think its clearly a racist policy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Fringe


    Naos wrote: »
    Doesn't sound very hardcore of them.

    They were probably all scared of him deep down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭An Fear Aniar


    As I understand it, the bar is on membership of the BNP, not employees of the party or those contracted to provide services to the party.

    So they could employ people who don't look European without breaking their own rules.


    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    I think it's nearly time to ban BNP threads at this stage.
    As I understand it, the bar is on membership of the BNP, not employees of the party or those contracted to provide services to the party.

    So they could employ people who don't look European without breaking their own rules.


    .

    That's one way around it. I would be amazed if some black guy would want to work with them anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Another point then would be the teachers and police in the UK being banned from membership of the Party. I would have thought that too was illegal. I don't like the guys, I understand the outrage but some people seem to only get upset with laws not being followed when they don't like the people breaking them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    asdasd wrote: »
    How does that work for chinese restaurants?
    Simple. If an Irish and a Chinese person both apply for the same person in a chinese restaurant, the restaurant is required to evaluate the applications without regard to nationality. If either feel that they were rejected because of their nationality, they can take case against the restaurant. The reason such a high percentage of chinese restaurant employees are chinese is because the majority of applicants are chinese.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    28064212 wrote: »
    Simple. If an Irish and a Chinese person both apply for the same person in a chinese restaurant, the restaurant is required to evaluate the applications without regard to nationality. If either feel that they were rejected because of their nationality, they can take case against the restaurant. The reason such a high percentage of chinese restaurant employees are chinese is because the majority of applicants are chinese.

    +1 - and I have seen plenty of some non-Chinese people work in Chinese restaurants.

    Also the fact that the Chinese/Asian applicants may speak Chinese (good restaurants would cater for Chinese clientele) may be an obvious advantage.

    You could mention how many Eastern Europeans (previously the Chinese) work in fast food companies... not racism in action but those applicants probably want the job more than others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭skelliser


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    British Petroleum have got what against the blacks now?

    They're not called British Petroleum anymore.

    Its Beyond Petroleum now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭johnny_knoxvile


    BNP catch 22 - foreign people in a butterfly net.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    Well they already accidentally employed a black dj to play at their christmas party a few years ago because "he sounded white on the telephone"...

    That is pretty funny. Reminded me of this . . . ''have a scone'' :

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/images/200/littlebrit_wi.jpg
    But some younger members thought it was a bit ironic and danced away the night.

    That was definitely a kodak moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Well they already accidentally employed a black dj to play at their christmas party a few years ago because "he sounded white on the telephone"...

    I'm surprised the black guy upon arrival didn't run off himself. It didn't seem to bother him who he was dj-ing for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    dsmythy wrote: »
    I'm surprised the black guy upon arrival didn't run off himself. It didn't seem to bother him who he was dj-ing for.

    I am trying to think of what kind of music he could have played ? Not really an 'ice, ice motherfcuking T' kind of a crowd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,738 ✭✭✭Naos


    Fringe wrote: »
    They were probably all scared of him deep down.

    What with the cap bustin' stereotypes and all...


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