Fuel for airside vehicles

Delta Kilo

I just heard that both Aer Lingus and Ryanair were done for tax evasion for using agricultural diesel in their vehicles on the apron, vans tugs etc.

Why can they not use agri diesel? Surely, those yokes never see the road?

partyatmygaff

Some of the airside vehicles do see the road even very rarely. If they do afaik they have to follow regular road laws.

kona

Surely those companies would contract that type of stuff out to other companies??
Seems a bit silly, Id have thought it would be included in the contract they use with the fuel companies to supply the jet fuel.

Mr Benevolent

It'd make more sense to use jet fuel.

BrianD

Aren't (weren't) some of these vehicles unregistered i.e. they don't bear number plates? Would these vehicles not be exempt as they can't be used on a public road?

Tenger

BrianD wrote: »

Aren't (weren't) some of these vehicles unregistered i.e. they don't bear number plates? Would these vehicles not be exempt as they can't be used on a public road?

Some are,some aren't. I believe that the airport is classed as private land so if it never goes 'landside' it doesn't have to be registered.

diverdriver

I guess somebody ratted on them. Indeed some vehicles operate both air and land side. I suppose some of the vehicles like that were being refueled with green diesel. Tut tut.:rolleyes:

When I worked at the airport there were some vehicles that shouldn't be certainly wouldn't have passed an NCT. I remember once driving a van out to one of our jets. I went up into the cockpit. When I got back the van had gone. To my horror the handbrake had slipped and the van had wandered off under the wing of the 727. Luckily the wing was high enough:eek:. That van was a heap.

There are some seriously mad looking vehicles airside all driven about crazily like 'whacky races'. Have you ever done donuts on ice in a Transit? I have. When I saw this Cadbury's ad, it made me chuckle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7bVD-cUFTw&feature=related

Tenger

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Run_to_da_hills

Farmers and builders can get away with using green diesel in Agri vehicles and plant on public roads so why can't Airline companies.

Del2005

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Farmers and builders can get away with using green diesel in Agri vehicles and plant on public roads so why can't Airline companies.

At a wild stab in the dark they wheren't done for green diesel in argi vehicles. More then likely they where done for green diesel on taxed and insured vehicles that could be used on the roads.

Run_to_da_hills

Del2005 wrote: »

At a wild stab in the dark they wheren't done for green diesel in argi vehicles. More then likely they where done for green diesel on taxed and insured vehicles that could be used on the roads.

Most registered site vehicles that use public roads will fill up with Green if covered with road insurance, talking of teleporters, JCB's and tractors. It would be a Grey area and I couldn't see a farmer or builder filling up with straight diesel at a garage if he only spends 10% of the hours of his machine on a public road. You cannot mix green and road diesel, the die will show up in any test. I have spent the last week in Co Clare and the amount of silage contractors on the public roads is unreal. Customs & Excise would be very hard up to do these guys

The additional problem with Airside vehicles is that these would be DOE and tax exempt because they are not supposed to be out on a public road, if thy are taken out and are involved in a TP collision they may not be covered by insurance. The DAA may have their own rules and regulations covering maintenance on these vehicles.

I worked on contract in Alcan Alumina and the ESB and the yards were full of site vehicles, some of them you could put your feet through the floor and do the Fred Flintstones .

squonk

Does that imply that using agri diesiel in tractors precludes them from going on the public road if they are registered and having agri diesel in the tank? That seems impractical. I always thought agri diesel was based on the profession of the individual buying it, ie if you're a registered farmer/builder then you cna use the diesel. All farmers will need to drive their tractors on the public road.