Provisenal Driving licence twist

3fullback

Hey all,

I'm currently 16 turning 17 in a few weeks as many 17 year olds i'm very eager to start driving but with the introduction of new laws i dont want to risk Driving on my own without a qualified driver.
So what i pose to you is can i go up north and take the Northern Ireland theory test and drive down here (west of ireland) on my own legaly ?

I'm currently a Rep. Ireland resident and also have sat the Rep. Ireland theory test and passed, but have not applied for my provisenal licence. Would insurance be an issue?

Any thoughts and facts much appericiated.

Hooch

3fullback wrote: »

Hey all,

I'm currently 16 turning 17 in a few weeks as many 17 year olds i'm very eager to start driving but with the introduction of new laws i dont want to risk Driving on my own without a qualified driver.
So what i pose to you is can i go up north and take the Northern Ireland theory test and drive down here (west of ireland) on my own legaly ?

I'm currently a Rep. Ireland resident and also have sat the Rep. Ireland theory test and passed, but have not applied for my provisenal licence. Would insurance be an issue?

Any thoughts and facts much appericiated.

A provisional licence from any country does not cover you to drive in the state, whether your accompanied or not. You would also have never held a licence so by the letter of the law you would be driving uninsured and with no licence.

Get an Irish learners permit, put up the L plates, dont act the ass on the road, when you can have a full licence driver and dont be ''crusing'' with no where to go at 2 in the morning. You'll be grand as long as its not abused. Use it for going to college and work and you'll be fine. But......break the law or act stupidly and im sure you know what will happen.

Hope this helps
Best of luck with the driving, keep safe

3fullback

nice guy always wrote: »

A provisional licence from any country does not cover you to drive in the state, whether your accompanied or not. You would also have never held a licence so by the letter of the law you would be driving uninsured and with no licence.

Get an Irish learners permit, put up the L plates, dont act the ass on the road, when you can have a full licence driver and dont be ''crusing'' with no where to go at 2 in the morning. You'll be grand as long as its not abused. Use it for going to college and work and you'll be fine. But......break the law or act stupidly and im sure you know what will happen.

Hope this helps
Best of luck with the driving, keep safe

But what about people driving down south from the north on n.ire licences ?

GalwayKiefer

3fullback wrote: »

But what about people driving down south from the north on n.ire licences ?

Those people are driving on full N.I. driver's licences, if they're on a N.I. learner's they're breaking the law in the same way someone from the Rep. would be if they drove up North possessing only a Prov. Licence.

Croc

3fullback wrote: »

But what about people driving down south from the north on n.ire licences ?

They are driving on full licence which is permissable.

What you are proposing will not work, you can come up with every possible way out of this but they will not work follow niceguys advice he knows what he is talking about

Wishbone Ash

nice guy always wrote: »

You'll be grand as long as its not abused. Use it for going to college and work and you'll be fine. But......break the law or act stupidly and im sure you know what will happen

Driving unaccompanied on a public road, on a Learner Permit (except A, A1, M or W) is abusing it, breaking the law and acting stupidly!

3fullback

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Driving unaccompanied on a public road, on a Learner Permit (except A, A1, M or W) is abusing it, breaking the law and acting stupidly!

seamus

It's also worth noting that it will not be possible for you to get insurance in the republic of ireland if you're only holding a northern irish provisional licence.

Hooch

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Driving unaccompanied on a public road, on a Learner Permit (except A, A1, M or W) is abusing it, breaking the law and acting stupidly!

Yes your 100% right......but if hes going to do it anyway then i'd prefer that he is licenced in the state and has insurance. Everyone has to driver at some time or another alone on a provisional. I'd be very surpised if anyone in here could HONESTY say he/she never drove unaccompanied or without L plates (same offence)

Once they are responsible and using it for going/ coming from work or college (a nessessary journey) I dont see the problem TBH. THey break the law and then they'll be hit hard. Thats the chance they take. Our licencing laws are not the best to be honest. I'd prefer a system where you must complete 10 lessons or so to be allowed driver on your own properly trained.....but that would make since.

Monkeybonkers

nice guy always wrote: »

A provisional licence from any country does not cover you to drive in the state, whether your accompanied or not. You would also have never held a licence so by the letter of the law you would be driving uninsured and with no licence.

Get an Irish learners permit, put up the L plates, dont act the ass on the road, when you can have a full licence driver and dont be ''crusing'' with no where to go at 2 in the morning. You'll be grand as long as its not abused. Use it for going to college and work and you'll be fine. But......break the law or act stupidly and im sure you know what will happen.

Hope this helps
Best of luck with the driving, keep safe

Surely if the OP complies with the legal requirements then they can drive where they want, when they want and at whatever time they want?

Hooch

Monkeybonkers wrote: »

Surely if the OP complies with the legal requirements then they can drive where they want, when they want and at whatever time they want?

Your right.....but if you read my comment IN FULL you will see I am refering to when he isnt accompanied....which would not be compling with legal requirements. If hes driving down the street at 2am on a Saturday night unaccompanied or with no L plates then he is looking for prosecution.:)

Croc

I think we are forgetting here the purpose of a Provisional Licensee.

It is issued for the purpose of receiving instruction to drive, by obtaining it you have shown you have a knowledge of the rules of the road having completed the theory test successfully.

For to long in this country people were treating it as a License to drive when it was not, furthermore when people were applying for a license they were ticking the box stating that they had a knowledge of the rules of the road when applying for a provisional license when the truth be told they had'ent even opened the book.

The law has been changed to make sure that they now know the rules of the road before getting a provisional license and once having gotten one it is used for the purpose for which it was issued i.e. to learning how to drive.

You can think of every scam you want to try and circumvent it but they won't work. the system is there for a reason to try to get people to learn how to drive properly.

Monkeybonkers

nice guy always wrote: »

Your right.....but if you read my comment IN FULL you will see I am refering to when he isnt accompanied....which would not be compling with legal requirements. If hes driving down the street at 2am on a Saturday night unaccompanied or with no L plates then he is looking for prosecution.:)

Ah, OK. Btw OP if you drive without a fully licenced driver beside you you are never OK to drive if you are on a provisional. This is now illegal afaik.

Monkeybonkers

nice guy always wrote: »

Yes your 100% right......but if hes going to do it anyway then i'd prefer that he is licenced in the state and has insurance. Everyone has to driver at some time or another alone on a provisional. I'd be very surpised if anyone in here could HONESTY say he/she never drove unaccompanied or without L plates (same offence)

Once they are responsible and using it for going/ coming from work or college (a nessessary journey) I dont see the problem TBH. THey break the law and then they'll be hit hard. Thats the chance they take. Our licencing laws are not the best to be honest. I'd prefer a system where you must complete 10 lessons or so to be allowed driver on your own properly trained.....but that would make since.

Prepare to be very surprised. I have never driven a car on Irish roads.
I have a very nice motorbike though.

3fullback

is it true you have to wait 6 mounths after you get your provisenal before you can apply for your full driving licence ?

slimjimmc

No, 3fullback, it's not true.

The rule is that you cannot conduct your driving test until at least 6 months after receiving your first Learner Permit.
Not quite the same thing.