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  • OK listened to the lot of it.


    Dead Inside: Hated it at first but now quite like it up to the solo which is excellent. After that it gets boring.


    Psycho: I liked this right from the start. Catchy.


    Mercy: Despite loving the Queen sounding side of Muse I cant stand this. Reminds me of Follow Me from the last album which is my least favourite Muse song.


    Reapers: Excellent. Prefer it live. Studio production is all over the place imo. Edit: CD on headphones sounds way better.


    The Handler: Didn't think it was great at first but love it now. The middle finger tappy guitar bit is epic. Probably my favourite track. Edit:2nd favourite


    JFK/Defector: Love/Hate this. Absolutely love the ridiculous energy of this but the song just doesn't flow. The 2 quiet verses sound awful. Edit: The whole thing is brilliant from start to finish. My favourite track. :)


    Revolt: Imo, this is truly awful. Sounds like that highly produced punk/boyband shít from the early noughties.


    Aftermath: Nice Pink Floydy intro turns into some sort of generic Christian rock sounding mush. WTF.


    The Globalist: Intro is slightly drawn out but verses sound great and the heavy part sounds excellent. Great until the final 3rd.


    Drones: Despite being all :p and WTF I don't find this as bad as Revolt and Aftermath.


    I agree with the 2nd side being way weaker than the 1st. 4 really good songs, some good and some awful. The album as a whole is better than the last 2 but some of that old Muse epicness is missing.




  • Haven't listed to the album yet but will do so later. Bit disappointed to read some of the thoughts on here though, but I guess everyone will form their own opinion on it.

    I think a lot of bands struggle when they move from their roots (basic guitar-driven rock) into more complicated song structures, more instruments, more computer effects, synthesizers, even different styles of music - and then try and take a step back. It probably feels like dumbing down slightly. That's where the strength of their melodies and lyrics will shine through, and allow the songs to work even though they're more pared back than their recent output in the last few years, but as much as I love Muse I've always felt their moments of absolute genius are outweighed by the moments of mediocrity.

    Still a fantastic live band though, one of the best I've seen.




  • ^^^ Buy it! Its worth it for the Reapers/Handler/JFK/Defector sequence of tracks alone!
    Just dont be tempted to listen to Aftermath unless you like Bryan Adams. :p




  • ^^^ Buy it! Its worth it for the Reapers/Handler/JFK/Defector sequence of tracks alone!
    Just dont be tempted to listen to Aftermath unless you like Bryan Adams. :p

    Listen to the first 1:30 of Aftermath but then start screaming loudly from then on to drown the rest of it out :P




  • miralize wrote: »
    Listen to the first 1:30 of Aftermath but then start screaming loudly from then on to drown the rest of it out :P


    Hehe. What do you reckon, their worse song ever? It's gotta be up there.


    Actually, whats everyones least favourite Muse song.


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  • The Small Print for me. Or Big Freeze. Or I Belong To You. Or Drones... every other song I like.

    Oh and Neutron Star Collision. I had almost erased that from memory




  • Having my first listen now as a I type this. Don't like Dead Inside, but Psycho is a great track, catchy and more old-style Muse than some of their recent stuff. Can't wait to learn that one on guitar.




  • I don't understand the over the top hate everyone has for Aftermath. It's not the best song on the album but it's grand.




  • Dead Inside - Not bad, but sounds like something the bean counters thought would do as a very inoffensive Single, with the catchy title and less emphasis on guitar driven rock.

    Psycho - Love this, great solid riff and definitely old school Muse in feel.

    Mercy - poor, don't like it at all.

    Reapers - great. Van Halen-esque riff at start is a nice touch. The song has an 80s glam rock type feel with the deep muffled riffing and high-pitched solos, though hugely modernised obviously.

    The Handler - Like this a lot. The tune had a bit of a NIN feel at times.

    JFK/Defector - Love this song, the slow but determined flow and almost stodgy rhythm of it married to the shrieking Queen-like harmonies. Bit of a head-banger at times. might be my fave.

    Revolt - I agree with Mike Litoris about this one, it's very pop/boyband in feel. Seems a bit out of place.

    Aftermath - Anyone else feel like they were listening to Dire Straits at the start of this song lol? There's definitely some Brothers in Arms vibes coming from Matt's guitar work. Still like it a lot, as a Muse slow song it works very well.

    Globalist - They just can't stay away from those Western inspired intros, just like in Knights of Cydonia. Some twangy guitar, slide guitar, hushed drum roll, whistling. I was expecting to look out my window and see some tumbleweed blowing along. Song then goes a bit mad, then switches to piano and changes tempo totally. It feels like 3 disjointed songs (more so than a lot of their earlier efforts, which have very different sounding sections but still blend well) but still very listenable.

    Drones - Interesting song, with the church choir type melodies totally at odds with the subject matter. Kept expecting it to get going but it never really took off.


    Overall, the album is actually better than I expected. It's back to 'basics' for Muse, though basics in Muse terms is still over the top riffs, catchy hooks and all the other things we love about them. Oh, and the guitars really do sound brilliant throughout the album - production quality on a whole is excellent. A few weak points, but nonetheless polished throughout and the majority of the songs work well in my opinion.





  • Globalist - They just can't stay away from those Western inspired intros, just like in Knights of Cydonia. Some twangy guitar, slide guitar, hushed drum roll, whistling. I was expecting to look out my window and see some tumbleweed blowing along. Song then goes a bit mad, then switches to piano and changes tempo totally. It feels like 3 disjointed songs (more so than a lot of their earlier efforts, which have very different sounding sections but still blend well) but still very listenable.

    I keep thinking the beginning of The Globalist sounds like it should be in Kill Bill or Django Unchained.


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  • What happened Muse? Their last album was atrocious but this one is just unforgivable.




  • Been listening to the new album quite a bit since release. Some serious trash but overall improvment on The 2nd Law I think. Reapers and The Handler are the redeeming tracks for me.

    Anyone else a bit disappointed with the lack of piano?




  • Devia wrote: »
    Been listening to the new album quite a bit since release. Some serious trash but overall improvment on The 2nd Law I think. Reapers and The Handler are the redeeming tracks for me.

    Anyone else a bit disappointed with the lack of piano?

    I was, synths seem to be taking most of the duvet these days.

    I hated this album at forst- even moreso than 2nd Law but it's actually grown on me ten fold. The only song I can say I really dislike is Revolt, but there's always one or two on each album that I dislike (apart from Origin).

    I've just come to terms with the fact that, much like Queen, Muse will throw out some belters and some equally horrific numbers on an album. Thought that Dead Inside was a desperate choice for opening song but kinda ties nicely with leaving behind the sound of the 2nd Law.

    Looking forward to their next gig and losing my mind during Reapers.

    Anyone else hoping to CHRIST that when they start doing arenas/stadiums that they don't do a concept tour that ends with Chris and Dom mourning the death of Matt by a Drone while "Drones" plays over the sound system a la the Pieta by Michaelangelo?....




  • They didn't have much Piano on this one at all, true - just a bit at end of Globalist I think?

    I've been listening to the album heavily for the last week or so and still haven't differed much from my original opinions posted above. Globalist has grown on me a lot, and Defector is still the best song on the album for me - but then I've been a closet Queen fan for years, so a bit of heavy guitar and falsetto always works wonders.




  • but then I've been a closet Queen fan for years


    Why in the closet. Come out man, its awesome! :D




  • lol, well not that much of a closet fan I guess, just not shouting it from the rooftops :P




  • The Globalist is even more pretentious and cringey than Exogenisis

    I didn't think that was possible




  • Muse have comprehensively shat themselves in the last two years, growing lazy and unmotivated, sticking to broad-stroke art and billboard statements. Disgusting how it all turned out in the end, a band that could have led the way for more progressive rock in the mainstream get a whiff of soundtrack royalties and throw in the towel.




  • Muse have comprehensively shat themselves in the last two years, growing lazy and unmotivated, sticking to broad-stroke art and billboard statements. Disgusting how it all turned out in the end, a band that could have led the way for more progressive rock in the mainstream get a whiff of soundtrack royalties and throw in the towel.


    That's a bit harsh

    Psycho, Dead Inside, Reapers, The Handler, Defector and Aftermath is up there with the best tracks on their classic first 4 albums




  • That's a bit harsh

    Psycho, Dead Inside, Reapers, The Handler, Defector and Aftermath is up there with the best tracks on their classic first 4 albums

    A shadow of the band they were.


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  • Any word on an Irish date?




  • Still nothing on ireland?




  • I love Muse too, Matthew is my religion




  • Looks like tour announcement tomorrow morning. They're playing live on BBC LiveLounge and have a 'special announcement'.




  • 5th April, 3 Arena. Sound.





  • Funny I only started coming around to this song yesterday morning. Still finding the 2nd half of Drones fair weaker.




  • 5th April, 3 Arena. Sound.


    Just came back from holidays...Feckin sold out. :(




  • Just came back from holidays...Feckin sold out. :(

    Im sure youll pick one up outside


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  • Mr Robot wrote: »
    Im sure youll pick one up outside

    What price do the touts sell them for? I noticed on ticketmaster they have a section where they "resell" tickets but they're nearly double the original price. I go to gigs once in a blue moon so haven't got a clue about all this.


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