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GK2009

This was the most shambolic and dangerous outside music event I HAVE EVER BEEN TO (and there have been a few). Shocking crowd control - squeezing 80,000 people into a small tree lined avenue where they have to crawl on top of eachother for two hours in an attempt to get into the venue was shameful and dangerous way to treat people who have paid good money to attend this event. It all smacked of greed and terrible organisation and I would never return there again. We left before Oasis came on (too scared of the same crammed crawl on the way out) - we heard Kasabian in the distant background during the crush on the way in and then enjoyed (?) the Prodigy set whilst avoiding all the punch ups in the hour we spent crammed in the bar queue. Shame on anyone invloved on the organisation of this disaster.

mspacman

Reganio 2 wrote: »

Glad you all had a good time but jaysus could you at least ignore the people that had problems instead of "Oh your no real concert goer" "Bunch of moaners" I complained as well, am I a real concert goer? No I have been to 2 in my life that was my first open air and I expected drug taking, heavy drinking, scumbags etc. But what I didn't excpect was to be pushed around and have to listen to really bad sound (Unless you were in the 1st few rows) I now a girl that paid her 80 quid for a ticket and had a football kicked at her by a scumbag on the way in and she missed the gig as she is still in Navan hospital with a broken ankle. Does she have the right to be angry or should she just accept it cause its a "gig"

You've only been to two concerts?? And have you complained to any of the relevant parties, cos they're the ones who can do something about it. MCD/Meath Co. Council etc...

Well then you should take this one as a lesson. Of course there's going to be pushing. you can't expect 80,000+ people to stand like planks not moving. Some people do get out of hand and push for no reason, or push to try get up the front, but pushing comes part and parcel with going to a gig.

What'ev you come as saying the sound was sh*te?! I was way down back by the catering vans and thought the sound was brilliant. Not a flaw with it. (Also, we chose to go down the back, because unfortunately, we didn't get in early enough to get pit bands, so the most sensible thing to do in that case is find a nice roomy spot, because no matter where you are you're not going to get that much of a better view, and we could see it all, and it was class to be able to see the crowd as well)

Thirdly, I'm sorry that your friend got smacked with a football. But I'm sure the guys didn't aim the football at her deliberately, to stop her from going to the gig. Accidents happen.

mspacman

bigkev49 wrote: »

I had a fantabulous time, taxi down from Dublin between 6 of us. Taxi man was an absolute gent, let us sup a few tins on the way down so we didn't go near a bar for the duration of the gig.

10 minutes after the fireworks ended I was in my mates car on the way to his local where we drank a few pints and strolled back to his house with bottles of Jameson and Smirnoff that cost the princely sum of €20. Stayed in his house and got up the next morning to fresh brown bread and strawberry jam.

Sublime weekend. Oh, and I got the tickets for free.

/runs away.

You're taking this happiness buzz too far now!!!

columok

mspacman wrote:

Uh-oh there's a lot of glass half-full optimistic posts going on here, I've a feeling when the mitherer's get back on here later on they're not going to be happy campers.

In fairness I've been to free parties on the dunes of donabate with better organisation and security. Be as dismissive as you like but on Saturday there was the potential for a real tragedy due to really poor crowd control. I have little or no issue with people drinking and taking drugs tbh (though walking in pissy mud isn't great). One decent surge in that crowd on the way in and there would have been a lot of injuries and probably worse. This would certainly have silenced the "ah sure it's a gig" crowd. Some of the sentiments on Joe Duffy were no doubt ridiculous i.e. 'I saw two people do coke off their phone'- (as far as i'm concerned that's their business and not particularily distressing for third parties)

I wouldn't waste my time queueing for beer during a gig either. I also don't want to be wrapped in cotton wool or kept in a bubble away from the "bad people". In my opinion a chillout circulation space at the back of a gig is essential. It allows people to move around the venue, get to the food/bars, jump around or just chillout/sit down and watch the show.

I was there for the prodigy so wasn't exactly after a glass of pinot grigio and a nice risotto. I expect those in the business of making gigs happen (including transport) to consider the legion possibilities and have a plan for dealing with all contingencies. Quite simply these professionals didn't do their jobs.

xxdilemmaxx

Just sent off my complaints to AGS, MCD and Dublin Bus so will see what happens. I really urge anyone who's not happy to send a complaint....

Will let you know if I get any responses

Bluetonic

Reganio 2 wrote: »

I now a girl that paid her 80 quid for a ticket and had a football kicked at her by a scumbag on the way in and she missed the gig as she is still in Navan hospital with a broken ankle.

Three days in hospital with a broken ankle? :rolleyes:

bennyc

Would it be worth adding a poll here to see what percentage of people had a bad experience, the way I see it anyone from the Navan side had little or no problems.
For me I had one of the best days out ever and didn’t see anything that I wasn’t expecting. I was half way back on the lower side all day and had no problems with sound or viewing. Bar was not the end of the world and food toilets were easy access.

One of the highlights of the day was a pair of scumbagette's who went to the bar via the exit held their hands up and anyone who said anything got quickly told to f$%k yourself. They passed the security guard (who was doing a great job by the way , he held a quarter of the q back so only 20 got near the bar at any one time so I kept going back to the same q as it was 10mins quicker) he couldn’t get to them . They pushed straight to the bar got two drinks each but on the way back one was still mouthing off to people only for some lad to slap the drink from her hands and the bouncer running her to the back of the q.

Bluetonic

bennyc wrote: »

Would it be worth adding a poll here to see what percentage of people had a bad experience

Lets be honest the majority of people who will visit this thread are on to complain as people don't generally go out of their way to comment on a positive experience.

The poll would prove nothing.

Reganio 2

mspacman wrote: »

You've only been to two concerts?? And have you complained to any of the relevant parties, cos they're the ones who can do something about it. MCD/Meath Co. Council etc...

Well then you should take this one as a lesson. Of course there's going to be pushing. you can't expect 80,000+ people to stand like planks not moving. Some people do get out of hand and push for no reason, or push to try get up the front, but pushing comes part and parcel with going to a gig.

What'ev you come as saying the sound was sh*te?! I was way down back by the catering vans and thought the sound was brilliant. Not a flaw with it. (Also, we chose to go down the back, because unfortunately, we didn't get in early enough to get pit bands, so the most sensible thing to do in that case is find a nice roomy spot, because no matter where you are you're not going to get that much of a better view, and we could see it all, and it was class to be able to see the crowd as well)

Thirdly, I'm sorry that your friend got smacked with a football. But I'm sure the guys didn't aim the football at her deliberately, to stop her from going to the gig. Accidents happen.

Yep 2 concerts the other was Iron Maiden (Who I had never heard before did it as a favour to a mate ) I did complain to MCD.

I never complained about the pushing and that like you said certain things are expected but is there not a certain point when it stops being just another thing to expect from a gig. It starts getting dangerous and tbh the people were on their best behaviour bar a bit of hustle bustle and few fences knocked down because all it would have took in that forest is for a couple of lads to go "Here lets start a riot" and there would have been. I seen a couple of fights (Expected) but they were broken up by other lads (Not with the 2 guys fighting) where were the Guards for this? They should be scatterd down that forest and not stewards who just stood there watching fences

Mental Mickey

The main thing to remember here is, that nobody involved in that gig(the band, Mountcharles,MCD,Meath CoCo,Dublin Bus etc) give a flyin' f**k about what happened, as long as they get their money! That's what it boils down to at the end of the day.

Ebonyellie

wow, this is the longest thread i have ever read, i wasnt at the gig but ive been to slane 8 times and ive never heard so many complaints about a single gig before. I think its terrible that people have paid that much for a ticket and had such bad expierences, and the posters that with the " will ye quit moanin' " attitude realise the difference between moaning and real grievances. moaning is "my beer was watered down / the portaloo was filthy/the sound was crap/i was ripped off for food" . Serious issues are the likes of the huge queues, overcrowding, no transportation, violence - seriously, how can you expect these to be the normal run of things at any concert?

akaredtop

It was a Rock Concert WIMPS! What did ye expect?

Mental Mickey

In the future, Slane's attendance level should be capped at 40,000.

GK2009

mspacman wrote: »

You've only been to two concerts?? And have you complained to any of the relevant parties, cos they're the ones who can do something about it. MCD/Meath Co. Council etc...

Well then you should take this one as a lesson. Of course there's going to be pushing. you can't expect 80,000+ people to stand like planks not moving. Some people do get out of hand and push for no reason, or push to try get up the front, but pushing comes part and parcel with going to a gig.

What'ev you come as saying the sound was sh*te?! I was way down back by the catering vans and thought the sound was brilliant. Not a flaw with it. (Also, we chose to go down the back, because unfortunately, we didn't get in early enough to get pit bands, so the most sensible thing to do in that case is find a nice roomy spot, because no matter where you are you're not going to get that much of a better view, and we could see it all, and it was class to be able to see the crowd as well)

Thirdly, I'm sorry that your friend got smacked with a football. But I'm sure the guys didn't aim the football at her deliberately, to stop her from going to the gig. Accidents happen.

I can not believe you are a seasoned festival goer - if you were you would know this was nothing like the atmosphere, safety and quality of experience you get from other outdoor events - you expect some queuing yes - but nothing like this.
I think we need to be clear that it was the organisation in light of the number of people - rather than the number of people or the actual people that were the problem. If you create a tense atomosphere you will get fights. Simples

Bluetonic

Mental Mickey wrote: »

In the future, Slane's attendance level should be capped at 40,000.

Based on what? The site is well capable of holding more than 40,000 (80,000 easily) with the right traffic, people and facility plans in place and implemented correctly.

Slane will never hold 40,000 capacity gigs as it wouldn't make sense financially.

Reganio 2

Bluetonic wrote: »

Three days in hospital with a broken ankle? :rolleyes:

Yes...... and :rolleyes:

Mental Mickey

Bluetonic wrote: »

Based on what? The site is well capable of holding more than 40,000 (80,000 easily) with the right traffic, people and facility plans in place and implemented correctly.

Slane will never hold 40,000 capacity gigs as it wouldn't make sense financially.

Which answers my point about the promoters etc, not giving a damn about all the complaints, as the only thing they are interested in is how much money they make! And I actually meant that the capacity should be capped at that level from a safety point of view.

Bluetonic

Mental Mickey wrote: »

Which answers my point about the promoters etc, not giving a damn about all the complaints, as the only thing they are interested in is how much money they make!

Thats your opinion of course, an unsubstantiated one at that.

I'm sure all the complaints will be dealt with and have no reason to doubt that they won't.

Mental Mickey

Bluetonic wrote: »

Thats your opinion of course, an unsubstantiated one at that.

I'm sure all the complaints will be dealt with and have no reason to doubt that they won't.

I complained about their organisation of the Metallica gig in Marlay Park last year, and got no reply from them whatsoever. They didn't give a damn! If they do reply to the thousands of people who do have legitimate complaints, it will only be because of the coverage it has gotten in the media and sites like this!

DanGlee

i was there at the weekend, i personally had a brilliant time, but do agree about the shambles that was made of the queues, bar and the number of waster / scummers that were in there. i was right next to a 4 man brawl in the bar queue and only one tiny little garda came to break it up... and its a wonder there wasn't many more as people were really taking the piss by just wandering up the exit aisle for the bar to get drinks and people were not happy... riot time easily.

but personally, we had a little crowd of 6 and stayed up the middle/top of the hill, saw everything, no pushing, plenty of room and sound was spot on.

if you go into the pit, defo expect trouble, specially with prodigy/oasis.

if i was such inclined and arsed i would complain to mcd for there blatant lack of organisation and disregard for human safety.

however oasis rocked the socks off the place, as did prodigy and kasabian.

dunno if i would go again, depends on the band, but defo not put off for life...

Bluetonic

Mental Mickey wrote: »

I complained about their organisation of the Metallica gig in Marlay Park last year, and got no reply from them whatsoever.

I'm talking about Slane 2009 and nothing else. I'm sure complaints will be handled professionally.

smileyxx

Im going to Coldplay in Phoenix Park in September...although it only holds 40000 will it be as bad as this?!

GerHorgan

mspacman wrote: »

They were in top form and the gig was epic...even "biblical" as Noel would say!!!!!!!

there's nothing worse than a bunch of moaning joe's after a gig like this!!!

So what, if people chose to get out of their minds on drink or drugs, as long as it doesn't harm/ruin your day, get on with it.

I reallly wish that this gig (a gig that will undoubtedly go down in history!)

Can I just say THANK YOU NOEL/LIAM for the gig of the year....absolutely sublime.

mspacman you sound like a jerk if this was the best concert you ever seen you have not seen much. Oasis were at their best in the 1990s not 2009 you sound like a teenager who wants to be in with the cool crowd

DanGlee

smileyxx wrote: »

Im going to Coldplay in Phoenix Park in September...although it only holds 40000 will it be as bad as this?!

i'd expect a quieter crowd at coldplay. same with the likes of r.e.m.

rock/indie bands always get a more scummier clientèle.

really reilly

will people stop going on about squeezing through 1 entrance / exit when their was in fact three entance/exits

really reilly

Reganio 2 wrote: »

Glad you all had a good time but jaysus could you at least ignore the people that had problems instead of "Oh your no real concert goer" "Bunch of moaners" I complained as well, am I a real concert goer? No I have been to 2 in my life that was my first open air and I expected drug taking, heavy drinking, scumbags etc. But what I didn't excpect was to be pushed around and have to listen to really bad sound (Unless you were in the 1st few rows) I now a girl that paid her 80 quid for a ticket and had a football kicked at her by a scumbag on the way in and she missed the gig as she is still in Navan hospital with a broken ankle. Does she have the right to be angry or should she just accept it cause its a "gig"

that a shame lad .but can ya really blame slane and the organisers for a muppet that does that

crushproof

Fantastic gig from Kasabian, Prodigy and Oasis. Great time spent before the barriers at the bridge chilling in the sun and then having a few in the old Chimney place beside the bridge.
The squeeze in through the narrow forest path was a shambles but wasn't too bad, no major issues when we were walking through. Inside was grand but for having to fork out a DISGRACEFUL 2 euro for a cup of water. Yes water was free but only at the front of the stage, pretty hard to get there don't you think?! (especially during the prodigy). The 2 euro water really was the most unbelieveable aspect of the gig.
Luckily had a private coach hired but still had to walk ages to find it, was convinced it had left us behind! Didn't get home to south Dublin until 3.30am.
To be honest while crawling through the traffic on the coach it was like looking out at a refugee crisis along the road, people all along the ditches, just walking and walking to nowhere and huddling outside refugee aid centres (aka petrol stations).
Absolute disgrace, I've lodged a complaint with MCD.

PS

10 people were detained on public order offences throughout the day of the concert, including a male who was found courting sheep in an adjacent field and two people who were arrested on suspicion of drink driving

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slane_Concert
Now its from Wiki but hilarious all the same...any truth in it?!

presetbandit

really reilly wrote: »

will people stop going on about squeezing through 1 entrance / exit when their was in fact three entance/exits

you sure u don't work for mcd ? as your nearly too defensive of the three entrance's , its the second post u have made about this, the fact is that the bulk of the crowd would have entered threw that entrance, if it was 60 or 40,000 people went that way , it still wasn't safe as the pics show.

Plenty of moaners on here.

I thought it was a quality gig all round, all the acts were excellent and the weather was great too.

Buses were slow to leave but wtf does one expect after a gig with 80,000 people??

Gigs are always full of people drunk etc, that is the way it has always been, and will always be.

Roll on Slane 2010

crushproof

Plenty of moaners on here.

I thought it was a quality gig all round, all the acts were excellent and the weather was great too.

Buses were slow to leave but wtf does one expect after a gig with 80,000 people??

Gigs are always full of people drunk etc, that is the way it has always been, and will always be.

Roll on Slane 2010

Great gig but the organisation was a shambles. Yes buses were slow to leave but there also wasn't enough buses to cater for the amount of people travelling by Dublin Bus/Bus Eireann!
And defiantly, roll on Slane 2010, another whopper of a gig (with more sensible planning perhaps!)

really reilly

presetbandit wrote: »

you sure u don't work for mcd ? as your nearly too defensive of the three entrance's , its the second post u have made about this, the fact is that the bulk of the crowd would have entered threw that entrance, if it was 60 or 40,000 people went that way , it still wasn't safe as the pics show.

no lad i def don,t work for m.c.d or anythin to do with the concert . just eeveryone keeps saying 1 exit lad.i know it was jammed coming out as was the navan one. im a massive music fan and go to bout 10 concerts a year it,s always the same though with the crowd leavin. and then onto the radio ta complain

really reilly

agree totally lad was a top notch show

pk88

unfortunatly i was lto late to see kasiben i got there as they just finished up but was my own fault.ha.When i got there got a drink of water in a cup 2 euro bit over the odds bt didn complain to much.As for the prodigey i tought they were unreal and if people are going to complain about getting pushed around while they were playing im afraid you dont belong at any gig.Ha.Before Oasis came on I was able to make my up to the free water and toliets with no hassel.From then i made my way to the barrier near the pit no in the pit behind it.I had the time of my life when Oasis came on until some absoulte scumbag Pissed in the hood of my jumper which i had tied around my waist!!!was not happy atal!!After the gig although it took a long time to get out of the field i wasnt to bothered and just had some friendly banter with people!!But as I was going to drogheda i had 2 walk the whole way back could not get any taxi or bus it was an absoulte disgrace.Then back to dublin!!Didnt get home till all hours!!

The gig = Brillant!!

Organisation = Brutal!!

dr oatker

rarnes1 wrote: »

Plenty of moaners on here.

I thought it was a quality gig all round, all the acts were excellent and the weather was great too.

Buses were slow to leave but wtf does one expect after a gig with 80,000 people??

Gigs are always full of people drunk etc, that is the way it has always been, and will always be.

Roll on Slane 2010

Probably won't be until 2011 as a pattern seems to be emerging of having them every second year. 60,000 might be a more sensible figure to cap the attendance at. There aren't too many bands that could sell more than that anyway.

Anyway I propose Led Zepplin for Slane 2011

Wile E. Coyote

NIBBS wrote: »

Ok I'll say it one more time - Dublin Bus were responsible for running a bus service for a concert with an 80,000 capacity - correct ?

dominicscullion wrote: »

If Dublin Bus did not expect such a large number of people to turn up for bus tickets, then how come they didnt run out of Bus tickets?? I bought two from Parnell Sq and its not like they were printed out there and then as they were paid for. Of course they new, surely this isnt the first year were the tickets could have been booked before hand?

It's a lot easier to find the space to store 17,000 bus tickets than it is find the space for 17,000 people and the buses and bus drivers to accomodate them. Have a read of AlexSmarts post on page 60 something which will explain some of the problems they have getting enough drivers and buses to do these type of gigs.

Yes they make allowances for people turning up on the day. Probably 4/5,000 people. Not everyone going to the gig goes from Dublin so it would be stupid of them to have enough buses to accomadate the entire 80,000 crowd on the off chance that they all might decide to go from Dublin.

dr oatker

Wile E. Coyote wrote: »

It's a lot easier to find the space to store 17,000 bus tickets than it is find the space for 17,000 people and the buses and bus drivers to accomodate them. Have a read of AlexSmarts post on page 60 something which will explain some of the problems they have getting enough drivers and buses to do these type of gigs.

Yes they make allowances for people turning up on the day. Probably 4/5,000 people. Not everyone going to the gig goes from Dublin so it would be stupid of them to have enough buses to accomadate the entire 80,000 crowd on the off chance that they all might decide to go from Dublin.

Yeah, but they could estimate for maybe 20,000- 30000 given that nearly 1 third of the population of Ireland live in Dublin and it's environs. It seems a bit short sighted to encourage people nto use public transport but then not have sufficent resources deployed to deal with them when they heed the advice.

suzieb

Got a reply from the Garda Press Office this morning. So far they are the only ones to acknowledge my complaint.

Dear Suzanne,

Thank you for taking the time to write to us. Your comments have been noted here, and are being forwarded on to the appropriate department. I suggest you also email contact@mcd.ie with your observations.

Kind regards,
(garda's name)
Garda Press Office

Wile E. Coyote

dr oatker wrote: »

Yeah, but they could estimate for maybe 20,000- 30000 given that nearly 1 third of the population of Ireland live in Dublin and it's environs. It seems a bit short sighted to encourage people nto use public transport but then not have sufficent resources deployed to deal with them when they heed the advice.

Why would they estimate for an extra 20/30,000 on top of the people who had bought their tickets on-line? That would be an extra 300 buses plus drivers. If people had bought there bus tickets on line (the option was right there on ticketmaster when buying your ticket) then they would have known exactly how many buses they needed.

BaZmO*

smileyxx wrote: »

Im going to Coldplay in Phoenix Park in September...although it only holds 40000 will it be as bad as this?!

Well if it's anything like the RHCP gig there it'll be a disaster. Sound was terrible, queues for drinks were a shambles, screens weren't working for most of the day and when they were working they were terribly out of sync with the music. Plus, because it was a flat field (unlike Slane) it was very difficult to see the stage if you were anyway back from it which just made the fiasco with the screens ever worse.

It was actually around the time when I started to give up on big outdoor gigs. I decided to vote with my tired feet.

So yeah, you'll have a great day!

On the plus side though, I reckon there won't be as many at the Coldplay gig.

Wile E. Coyote wrote: »

Why would they estimate for an extra 20/30,000 on top of the people who had bought their tickets on-line? That would be an extra 300 buses plus drivers. If people had bought there bus tickets on line (the option was right there on ticketmaster when buying your ticket) then they would have known exactly how many buses they needed.

In the same way that you say that people should expect drunk and boisterous people at gigs Dublin Bus should expect people to buy tickets on the day. It's called contingency. It's not as if it's the first Slane or major public event we've ever had in the country.

ronbyrne2005

Liveline covering it again today. Guy had a theory that thousands of copied etickets were being presented and slowing queue right down forcing them to open up gates.

Jip

I have to laugh at all the tools here waffling "it's a rock concert lad, what do you expect our boy" and all that nonsense. Clearly the Oasis gig has been their first large scale gig if they think this is the 'norm'.

I've been to several Slane gigs, Witness before it became Oxegen, Electric Picnic, gigs in the Phoenix Park etc etc so I'm a seasoned gig goer. I didn't go to Slane as as I said in a previous post, I'd never do Slane again, particularly for Oasis as the scumbag quotient would be quite big, but family and friends did. Not one outdoor gig had this level of disorganisation before, by all accounts this year was farcical. Slane has always been messy but there was never hassle at the forrest walk, from looking at the aerial photos it was never that packed as it was and it wasn't too bad to get home afterwards.

Now I'd suggest all these "It's a rock concert man" get a little more familiar with gigs and events before they waffle all as clearly this is not the norm.

Understand that our wannabe Liam/Noels ?

P.S. Anyone know if either of the security companys did EP last year ? There was one crowd at EP last year which I suspect were made up of probationers flown in from Scotland or the north.

Wile E. Coyote

BaZmO* wrote: »

In the same way that you say that people should expect drunk and boisterous people at gigs Dublin Bus should expect people to buy tickets on the day. It's called contingency. It's not as if it's the first Slane or major public event we've ever had in the country.

I'm not saying that they shouldn't expect people to turn up on the day but an extra 17,000 is a lot of buses. You can't seriously expect them to accomadate all those extra people without any hassle.

Trafford Lad

So if we are to believe JIP every single Oasis fan is a scumbag Liam/Noel wannabe, pissed up, acting loutish etc...nice little cliche that. So I suppose all the little scrotes who were there for the prodigy behaved like little angels:rolleyes:

really reilly

Jip wrote: »

I have to laught at all the tools here waffling "it's a rock concert lad, what do you expect our boy" and all that nonsense. Clearly the Oasis gig has been their first large scale gig if they think this is the 'norm'.

I've been to several Slane gigs, Witness before it became Oxegen, Electric Picnic, gigs in the Phoenix Park etc etc so I'm a seasoned gig goer. I've didn't go to Slane as as I said in a previous post, I'd never to Slane again, particularly for Oasis as the scumbag quotient would be quite big, but family and friends did. Not one outdoor gig had this level of disorganisation before, by all accounts this year was farcical. Slane has always been messy but there was never hassle at the forrest walk, from looking at the aerial photos it was never that packed as it was and it wasn't too bad to get home afterwards.

Now I'd suggest all these "It's a rock concert man" get a little more familiar with gigs and events before they waffle all as clearly this is not the norm.

Understand that our wannabe Liam/Noels ?

P.S. Anyone know if either of the security companys did EP last year ? There was one crowd at EP last year which I suspect were made up of probationers flown in from Scotland or the north.

im thinkin that might be a shot at me lad .have bin going ta the same fests as you witness before it became oxegen but the people complainin is the ones who must never have beeen to a majoe fest or concert im not tryin ta slag them off but its the same at every festival . electric picnic is probably the most laid back

BaZmO*

ronbyrne2005 wrote: »

Liveline covering it again today. Guy had a theory that thousands of copied etickets were being presented and slowing queue right down forcing them to open up gates.

That was actually something I was wondering about. What would've happened if say 20 people ended up in that forest without tickets? How would they get turned back throw the crowd? It would've caused chaos. The tickets should've been checked before anybody was allowed near the forest walk. And there should be no bars, toilets, or food outlets near any of the main entrances. Simple common sense stuff.

Wile E. Coyote wrote: »

I'm not saying that they shouldn't expect people to turn up on the day but an extra 17,000 is a lot of buses. You can't seriously expect them to accomadate all those extra people without any hassle.

I don't know, if never had to organise the transportation of thousands of people in one day. I know a company that has though.

Jip

Trafford Lad wrote: »

So if we are to believe JIP every single Oasis fan is a scumbag Liam/Noel wannabe, pissed up, acting loutish etc...nice little cliche that. So I suppose all the little scrotes who were there for the prodigy behaved like little angels:rolleyes:

And where exactly did I say that ? Now go back and reread what I posted. When you find where I said all Oasis fans are scumbags post it here please.

I've been to Oasis gigs before, when their songs sounded original for their time, not like now where every album since the 90s sounds the same, but's that for a different thread.

mspacman

GerHorgan wrote: »

mspacman you sound like a jerk if this was the best concert you ever seen you have not seen much. Oasis were at their best in the 1990s not 2009 you sound like a teenager who wants to be in with the cool crowd

Ok what substantiates your claim there? I'm mid-twenties, and have seen Oasis on numerous occasions, including back in the 90s. I was merely saying that Oasis played a blinder of a gig, Dig out your Soul is their best album for years (by far) and I just think that they seem to be back on form!!! After a couple of dodgy years...

Stark

Wile E. Coyote wrote: »

It's a lot easier to find the space to store 17,000 bus tickets than it is find the space for 17,000 people and the buses and bus drivers to accomodate them. Have a read of AlexSmarts post on page 60 something which will explain some of the problems they have getting enough drivers and buses to do these type of gigs.

I don't think that's what he meant. They shouldn't have sold those tickets if they didn't have the buses and drivers available to cover them.

Teresa1984

I was Robbie Williams and the Chilli's at Phoenix park and both were very well organised. the usual walk, you'd be tired like, but very safe, and plenty of stewards around who were actually effective if there were messers. enjoy coldplay!!:)

mspacman

Jip wrote: »

I have to laugh at all the tools here waffling "it's a rock concert lad, what do you expect our boy" and all that nonsense. Clearly the Oasis gig has been their first large scale gig if they think this is the 'norm'.

I've been to several Slane gigs, Witness before it became Oxegen, Electric Picnic, gigs in the Phoenix Park etc etc so I'm a seasoned gig goer. I've didn't go to Slane as as I said in a previous post, I'd never to Slane again, particularly for Oasis as the scumbag quotient would be quite big, but family and friends did. Not one outdoor gig had this level of disorganisation before, by all accounts this year was farcical. Slane has always been messy but there was never hassle at the forrest walk, from looking at the aerial photos it was never that packed as it was and it wasn't too bad to get home afterwards.

Now I'd suggest all these "It's a rock concert man" get a little more familiar with gigs and events before they waffle all as clearly this is not the norm.

Understand that our wannabe Liam/Noels ?

P.S. Anyone know if either of the security companys did EP last year ? There was one crowd at EP last year which I suspect were made up of probationers flown in from Scotland or the north.

Ok what gives you the right to bundle all Oasis fans into one snotty-nosed cliche???

And I too have been to Witness, Slane, Oxegen, EP and Roskilde as well as many other large scale outdoor gigs. The last time I was at Slane was '02, when Phonics headlined, and let me tell you, I found that gig a lot rougher than this. I didn't see any crazy moshing going on on Saturday, with people getting crushed in the crowds, whereas last time, when Nickleback were playing, there were hundreds of people couldn't get up off the ground cos there was such a crush!

A lot of these people complaining about this gig have obviously never been to a gig before, let alone Slane. There should be a warning in large bold print on the tickets that you have to walk to get to the gig. It's a given with Slane. And how do people expect that they don't have to walk a couple miles to get to the buses?? With crowds walking out on the roads, you can't exactly bring the buses right up to the gates!

There were two problems with this gig, 1: Lack of bars, Oxegen takes in about 80,000 people but there must be at least 8 bars (?!) at Oxegen! Three bars at Slane was just a joke. 2: There was obviously a problem with lack of buses provided by Dublin bus, but people can't realistically expect to get out of the gig and hop on a bus home straight away.