Littering ticket based on my car reg!!!!!

romperstomper

hey all,

i was in dingle for a stag 2 weeks ago and afterwards we deposited our empty bottles in the bottle-bank in dingle town. i have just received a ticket for €150 for littering based on my car reg!!! I can only presume the cardboard boxes the bottles of beer came in constituted littering and they got my details through my reg when i pulled up to let my passengers out with the 2 boxes of empty bottles.

can i dispute this, since i didn't personally do it?

also, what happens if i ignore it? bench warrant and the next time i get stopped at a check-point (tax etc) i get arrested?

thanks

Our man in Havana

If you ignore it you will be summonsed to court and fined in your absence. Fail to pay the fine and you will have a few days in Mountjoy to contend with.

romperstomper

fair enough, but how in the name of fairness can i be fined for the alleged littering my passengers did? why has no one contacted me for their details? if it was a speeding offense i would at LEAST have the option of putting someone else's name on the ticket (on the basis that it was someone else that had committed the offense)

Our man in Havana

The legislation allows them to prosecute the registered owner and makes the assumption the the owner was the culprit.

romperstomper

is there anyway of fighting this on the basis that i personally did not litter? OR is the solution i appeal to the conscious of some stag hounds? and get them to split the bill (even though i had NOTHING to do with it)

BTW, this is VERY unfair legislation. and i am AMAZED there is no way to fight it (on the basis i didn't litter)

Our man in Havana

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1997/en/act/pub/0012/sec0027.html#zza12y1997s27

romperstomper

let me get this straight. as i'm driving a car, I'M responsible for the actions of the passengers?????????

Davy

Heres something similar about a litter fine. Must be a lot of wardens etc going round

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055564491

Our man in Havana

romperstomper wrote: »

let me get this straight. as i'm driving a car, I'M responsible for the actions of the passengers?????????

In law, yes.

romperstomper

Bond-007 wrote: »

In law, yes.

if only murderers knew this, the term 'car bomb' would take on a whole new meaning

many thanks to those that have responded.

looks like i have no choice but pay up :-(

nuac

Yes Romperstomper as another poster has pointed out you are liable for litter from your car under Section 27 of the Act. ( 1997 ). Also look at the presumption in Section 26. If the summons has issued contact a local solicitor. Judges do not like litter and the fines can go to €3000 plus costs and council's expenses

romperstomper

hey guys, there is no contact number or anything on the ticket. can i pay this in the garda fixed fines office on o'connell st in dublin? or do i have to ring round kerry offices to find an address to send a check? thanks

holidayhere

Go to the local cop shop.
If you ignore it, it will cost you in the long haul.
I seen an example of this before.....

Our man in Havana

Nothing to do with the Gardaí. Contact Kerry County Council.