Munster Hurling 1/4 Final

tippguy · 25-05-2009 11:29am #1

Any one got any idea what kind of crowd is expected in Thurles on Sunday for the Tipp V Cork game? Should be a good game i'd say

CyberDave · 25-05-2009 2:13pm

Tipp should beat them easily if league form is anything to go by. But then again Cork/Tipp matches do have a life of their own sometimes. Guessing what kind of a crowd will be there though is like the question, How long is a piece of string.

Daysha · 25-05-2009 3:13pm

Looking back on previous 1st round games, attendences have varied from the 17,000 at Clare/Waterford last year to 26,000 at Tipp/Limerick in 2006. In fairness to last years match, it was on in Limerick which was hardly ideal for the majority of Deise fans.

Given the history between Tipp/Cork and the high level of interest in the game after the strike, I could see it as somewhere between 25,000 and 30,000. It is very hard to tell though.

CyberDave · 25-05-2009 3:30pm

The state of the economy might effect the attendance as well. Not as many people will turn out when unemployment is so high.

Mushy · 25-05-2009 3:38pm

CyberDave wrote: »

The state of the economy might effect the attendance as well. Not as many people will turn out when unemployment is so high.

Thats why ticket prices should be lower. Incentives to make people go.

vag77 · 25-05-2009 5:26pm

Mushy wrote: »

Thats why ticket prices should be lower. Incentives to make people go.

+1

premierstone · 25-05-2009 8:45pm

Mushy wrote: »

Thats why ticket prices should be lower. Incentives to make people go.

Ticket prices have been droped

Orizio · 25-05-2009 9:56pm

As it stands, and considering this is a Cork team in transition with an inexperienced manager and a number of championship debutants/rookies (Aisake, Conor Sul, Cadogan, also possibly McGann, Fintan O'Leary, Tadgh Og etc), against a Tipp team with great physicality, aggression and two of the best young players in the country, I'll be happy with a respectable performance and avoidance of a hammering.

Tipp by 6.

dotsflan · 26-05-2009 9:00am

premierstone wrote: »

Ticket prices have been droped

They have??? According to ticketmaster its €20 for terrace and €30 for stand tickets!! bloody rip off considering its only a munster quarter final

nice_guy80 · 26-05-2009 11:12am

how much would u pay into a premiership game?
big rugby game?
play a round of golf?

€20 is good value

Orizio · 26-05-2009 11:19am

dotsflan wrote: »

They have??? According to ticketmaster its €20 for terrace and €30 for stand tickets!! bloody rip off considering its only a munster quarter final

Sounds fine to me.

premierstone · 26-05-2009 12:33pm

dotsflan wrote: »

They have??? According to ticketmaster its €20 for terrace and €30 for stand tickets!! bloody rip off considering its only a munster quarter final

Tut tut shame on you your obviously not from either Tipp or Cork, quite frankly Tipp and Cork munster championship in thurles bank holiday weekend - it doesnt get much bigger or better!

future_plans · 26-05-2009 1:52pm

premierstone wrote: »

Tut tut shame on you your obviously not from either Tipp or Cork, quite frankly Tipp and Cork munster championship in thurles bank holiday weekend - it doesnt get much bigger or better!

Have to agree there. Warm sunny day also. Just hope the match lives up to it....which I think it will. Dennis Walsh has been very busy and I think Cork will be well up for this. Although I expect Tipp to have just a little too much. However, Munster Senior Championship hurling, Semple Stadium.....it will be red hot. Can't wait.

Mushy · 26-05-2009 1:57pm

premierstone wrote: »

Ticket prices have been droped

I kind of rushed that post of mine. They could offer more incentives for families to go, and maybe even knock €5 more off the price. And I mean that in general for matches, not just this one.

Comparing against major rugby/soccer matches is kind of pointless, as they've a lot more international appeal. Maybe I'm just annoyed I can't go. hopefully a decent crowd though.

dotsflan · 26-05-2009 6:49pm

nice_guy80 wrote: »

how much would u pay into a premiership game?
big rugby game?
play a round of golf?

€20 is good value

well if the players got paid i wouldnt have any problem paying this!!! Tell someone with a big family and who just lost their job that its good value, im sure theyed have something to say about it!

Daysha · 26-05-2009 6:51pm

Tipp are 1/2 to win. Cork are 15/8, and you can get a draw at 10/1.

Orizio · 26-05-2009 9:07pm

Cork team vs Tipp.

Donal Og Cusack

Shane O'Neill Eoin Cadogan Conor O'Sullivan

John Gardiner Ronan Curran Sean Og a Hailpin

Tom Kenny Jerry O'Connor

Ben O'Connor Niall McCarthy Timmy McCarthy

Kieran 'Fraggie' Murphy Aisake Og a Hailpin Pa Horgan

Same old same old then. The Tipp lads will be laughing their asses off. Tipp by ten.

The_Banker · 26-05-2009 10:09pm

dotsflan wrote: »

well if the players got paid i wouldnt have any problem paying this!!! Tell someone with a big family and who just lost their job that its good value, im sure theyed have something to say about it!

Some good points there. However, while the players may not be paid the money has to come from somewhere to pay Christy Cooneys €140,000 a year salary.

Daysha · 26-05-2009 10:27pm

No Cathal Naughton?

LeoB · 26-05-2009 10:38pm

Get your tickets through the local club. I hate this ticketmaster s**t.All tickets should go through the clubs. The prices are good for going to games. I am not in the best paid job but the family tickets are great.

On some of the points made, The G.A.A in general has far more appeal than Soccer or Rugby. If the players were paid I would not go, its an amateur sport and I dont expect any of them to be out of pocket. Christy Cooney is worth the money he is paid. Its a bit unfair to use the economic situation our country is in. Ticket prices to everything in this country are expensive but in most cases G.A.A prices are about 40% cheaper than Soccer and I dont know the price of Rugby tickets.

Thurles, Hot day, Hard ground and fast ball. Tipp v Cork €30 is good value. By the way Orizo put a few bob on Cork. They will rattle a few cages. While all round they might not have the strength of Tipp anything can happen. Tipp might be laughing now but will they be laughing Sunday night? I just have this sneaky feeling for Cork. Good bit of experience but I think I would have found a spot the big lad they played in the league in half forward line. Should be a good day

Orizio · 26-05-2009 10:57pm

Daysha wrote: »

No Cathal Naughton?

No chance of starting, can't win ball, scared of his own shadow. Impact sub.

grenache · 26-05-2009 11:42pm

I can somehow see John Gardiner dropping back into the full back position at some stage of the game, if not at the start. I think Cadogan may struggle there.

Daysha · 27-05-2009 12:46am

That full back line is there for the taking IMO. Very inexperienced by the looks of it.

Numbers 5-13 is a joke though. It's the exact same selection as the All-Ireland final in 2004, and all but Jerry O'Connor started the 2003 final too! Are any one of those players even under the age of 30?

If Tipp are up for it, especially in the those last 15-20 minutes when the Cork legs will tire a bit, then can run them ragged.

Orizio · 27-05-2009 11:19am

At a guess, Fraggie Murphy, Niall Mac and Kenny are just under 30.

What the team is is a testament to the complete mess that Cork underage Hurling is. We haven't had a really good underage side since our Minors in 01, and it shows.

Orizio · 27-05-2009 11:20am

Daysha wrote: »

That full back line is there for the taking IMO. Very inexperienced by the looks of it.

Numbers 5-13 is a joke though. It's the exact same selection as the All-Ireland final in 2004, and all but Jerry O'Connor started the 2003 final too! Are any one of those players even under the age of 30?

If Tipp are up for it, especially in the those last 15-20 minutes when the Cork legs will tire a bit, then can run them ragged.

BTW, your pessimism is well warranted.

Shall we say Tipp by 20 then?

zenmonk · 27-05-2009 11:26am

ok biaaches
Cork by a point - ye heard it here first

premierstone · 27-05-2009 12:43pm

Orizio wrote: »

At a guess, Fraggie Murphy, Niall Mac and Kenny are just under 30.

What the team is is a testament to the complete mess that Cork underage Hurling is. We haven't had a really good underage side since our Minors in 01, and it shows.

That was the very point I tried to make to you Orizio on numerous occasions in the Gerald McCarthy thread as to why Cork are no longer winning AI's it had fcuk all to do with Ger mac and more to do with having the same panel season after season the underage talent coming through Cork in the last 7 or 8 years has not been up to scratch for Corks standards and also look at the record of Cork clubs recently, the depth just isnt there.

Now having said all that I must admit as a Tipp man this game worries me greatly Cork are going to be so fired up for this with rallying calls of ''everyone wants us to fail are we going to give them the satisfaction'' etc. etc. and also the very fact that they've been written off and really have nothing to loose, really all the pressure is on Tipp and it worries me especially with all the young lads in the Tipp team. But then on the other side I look at the Cork 15 and I see a suspect FB line and unproven FF line and a lot of over the hill guys in between oh yeah and yer man in the goals :rolleyes:

Daysha · 27-05-2009 2:41pm

Orizio wrote: »

BTW, your pessimism is well warranted.

Shall we say Tipp by 20 then?

Nah, 10-12 points sounds about right now. Even if Tipp are only a few points ahead going into the 2nd half, there's nothing to suggest that Cork will be the stronger side in the final 20 minutes.

If Cork are to have any, and I mean any, chance of winning, they have to get right in Tipps faces from the whistle. Try to unsettle them as much as possible and don't let them control the game. Even at that, they'll need a lot of luck to go their way too.

zenmonk wrote: »

ok biaaches
Cork by a point - ye heard it here first

With a pig flying over Thurles too yeah?

Red Crow · 27-05-2009 2:47pm

Hope Tipp will do it considering I'm a Tipp man myself

Shan75 · 27-05-2009 3:28pm

Looking forward to this game.Tipp v Cork are usually decent games and hopefully this will be no different.I'd expect Tipp to win by a few points.

Weather permitting but you'd expect nearly 30,000 to turn up for this.

flahavaj · 27-05-2009 7:08pm

In a one off game its very dangerous to write Cork off so easily. Not saying they will win, but its far from a dead certainty.

Lone Kimono · 27-05-2009 9:12pm

I might not get to see this match on Sunday but will try and record it. Should be good, Tipp are the closest to Kilkenny right now (just about), and I shouted for them for my first time ever in the league final. I always liked Cork (have family from there) but since the strike I have lost all respect for them. I would say Tipp by about 5 on Sunday and they should go on to win Munster from there.

LeoB · 27-05-2009 10:05pm

Lads an lassies I think ye are mad writing Cork off. Cork have had a good build up. Forget all the stuff that went on earlier they trained away and I think will be fresh as the rest will not have done them any harm and as Daysha says they need to be in TIpp faces from the off and with Gardiner, O'Halpin Tom Kenny they wont be found wanting. The older lads could be a god send in a battle especially against young lads.

I think Cork will cause an upset. Oh and dont come back ramming it down my throat sure Im only a Dub and north Dub at that.:)

Orizio · 28-05-2009 1:42pm

LeoB wrote: »

Lads an lassies I think ye are mad writing Cork off. Cork have had a good build up. Forget all the stuff that went on earlier they trained away and I think will be fresh as the rest will not have done them any harm and as Daysha says they need to be in TIpp faces from the off and with Gardiner, O'Halpin Tom Kenny they wont be found wanting. The older lads could be a god send in a battle especially against young lads.

I think Cork will cause an upset. Oh and dont come back ramming it down my throat sure Im only a Dub and north Dub at that.:)

I'm afraid getting in the opposition's faces is something beyond this Cork team, and don't get me started on John Gardiner...;)

I agree with the Tipp and Waterford lads, a very easy Tipp win. Really, shouldn't we all really be discussing the Tipp/KK All-Ireland final now and leave all these trivial 'contests' aside?

PS: I think Cork will win by a couple too Leo, just don't tell Premierstone and Daysha...

Orizio · 28-05-2009 1:44pm

Daysha wrote: »

Nah, 10-12 points sounds about right now.

A fair and objective estimate Daysha.

LeoB · 28-05-2009 4:30pm

Orizio wrote: »

I'm afraid getting in the opposition's faces is something beyond this Cork team, and don't get me started on John Gardiner...;)

I agree with the Tipp and Waterford lads, a very easy Tipp win. Really, shouldn't we all really be discussing the Tipp/KK All-Ireland final now and leave all these trivial 'contests' aside?

The old saying (from Neil Toibin), "Cute Cork Wh**e" (and mean Cavan B***ards) comes to mind:). Tipp could find it hard to get out of Munster and just maybe Galway will cause a shock in Leinster. But the question is can KK be caught twice in 1 year?
With respect to the counties who have already played this year, Between this and the following Sunday the Championship really kicks off.
Wonder if the G.A.A should look at selecting a match for Thurles or Croke Park with all the fanfare to kick off the championship season?

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Declan30 · 28-05-2009 5:12pm

Cork Should bring Good Support to thurles as they have to support the Team given what went on at the Start of the year.

U can see now straight from the start cork tear into Tipp and try to get a Head start on them.

However when the Game Settles Down.Tipp Given that they have a Better Balanced Team and better forwards will go on win by 5-7 pts.

Crowd of 35k id say on sunday.

soundsham · 28-05-2009 7:17pm

about 34,561 heads

cork to win and score 3-18 to 1-16

Queen-Mise · 31-05-2009 9:34am

arent ye underestimating tipp a bit after the killenny game. Four goals past kil is not to be ignored.

Cork are still an unknown quantity.

I am sitting in mother-in-laws house 200 yards from semple stadium waiting for the joy that is the championship to begin.

Come on tipp.

Mushy · 31-05-2009 11:35am

Queen-Mise wrote: »

arent ye underestimating tipp a bit after the killenny game. Four goals past kil is not to be ignored.

Cork are still an unknown quantity.

I am sitting in mother-in-laws house 200 yards from semple stadium waiting for the joy that is the championship to begin.

Come on tipp.

Anything to avoid?:D

Cracking day...sun shining, a Cork-Tipp battle to start Munster Championship, in Thurles....how I wish I was in Semple Stadium today.

Queen-Mise · 31-05-2009 12:10pm

the weather is stunning here.

Tipp are 4/9 to win and cork are 9/4 to win in paddy powers. The draw is still 10/1.

I hope it will be a cracker. They will be some skin and blood flying in the first ten minutes me thinks.

Power-surge · 31-05-2009 12:11pm

If only I wasnt doing my LC I'd be at that match today

LeoB · 31-05-2009 12:54pm

Power-surge wrote: »

If only I wasnt doing my LC I'd be at that match today

It would do ya no harm to get and let your hair down and get to the match. Stephen Lucy and John Lee will tell you about exams and they are playing in championship.

Good odds on the draw. Will it finish 15 a side?

Cork by 2 points;)

Up Tipp? Up the Dubs for Leinster:)

culabula88 · 31-05-2009 1:05pm

are there any stands tickets left or tickets for kids left

iasscarra · 31-05-2009 2:29pm

cork win by 6+ points, I really rate this Tipp side although the coming down from a high (league) in semple stadium, in the heat and in front of 30,000+ fans of a munster derby, tis a different type of dish altogether....... best of luck Tipp and best of luck Cork........ regards A Rebel!