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How to avoid (ugly) drunks.

  • 23-05-2009 09:09PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,006 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Anyone else annoyed by this? Irish men are so ugly - balding, pale faces, etc etc and yet they have the nerve to think they're god's gift! They have the ego and cheek to think they can get women who are clearly way out of their league. Do they not look in the mirror?
    They just think they're wonderful! FFS! Particularly drunk Irish men.
    And then they're so rude.
    In other countries men are polite to women. They respect them and don't just see them as tits and ass. AND they're good looking!!!

    I'm sick of having to deal with crap from them on a night out. They don't take no for an answer - pestering you even if you say you're not interested.

    Any tips on how to ward off these morons???? I've tried just about everything and am at a loss. Fed up with them and their egos ruining my nights out with the girls/mates.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,441 ✭✭✭Firetrap


    Jayz. For a few moments I thought it was an After Hours thread! I don't think any Irish woman has ever escaped these creeps. I've gotten to a stage of my life where I don't take any cr@p any ore so I just tell them to go away. Yes, it's rude but it works. Some of these people can't take a hint so you have to be blunt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,463 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Any tips on how to ward off these morons???? I've tried just about everything and am at a loss. Fed up with them and their egos ruining my nights out with the girls/mates.

    From the sounds of it, just be yourself. Nobody will want to talk to you at all!

    You are the answer to this thread

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055563095&goto=newpost


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,772 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Thread title changed. OP, you attitude dioesn't seem to be helping you.

    Drunks the world over pester other people. Alcohol is a de-inhibitor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    Here's a hint, start off the inevitable conversation with this line...
    They have the ego and cheek to think they can get women who are clearly way out of their league. Do they not look in the mirror?

    ...and if they have any sense they'll realise they're talking to a complete and utter muppet and walk away, that way everybody wins.

    On a serious note, assuming what you say actually applies to you then I'd say you're one of those girls who is usually involved with rather attractive looking guys who you later complain turn into assholes and treat you like crap. Here's a hint, maybe focus more on the person's personality and how they behave rather than being completely shallow and only paying attention to their looks. I'd say doing this would allow you to find a nice all round guy but with the attitude you're showing in your post I doubt he'd be very interested...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,006 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    funny, I find the drink culture here pretty difficult to comprehend. In many other countries the people drink less and maintain some civilised manner about them, ireland can resemble that early in the evenings, but once the drinkers have reached the tipping point it mostly gets out of hand.

    I'm afraid if you're into clubbing or late night bars then there's no avoiding it, they operate as a pack where they pride themselves on how many pints they've had and when the prospect of going home arrives then they get a bit randy and will feel that any girl is fair prey!

    If you feel you can't cope with it then try a night in Newcastle in the UK and you'll realise that Ireland is fine compared to that!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,968 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    They have the ego and cheek to think they can get women who are clearly way out of their league. Do they not look in the mirror?

    Well you seem to be attracting them.
    But nowhere in your post do you mention you meeting attractive men.

    So if you're going to mention leagues maybe you are attracting the men who are exactly on your level.
    Sure wouldn't you already have a great guy on your arm if you were all that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,463 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    funny, I find the drink culture here pretty difficult to comprehend. In many other countries the people drink less and maintain some civilised manner about them, ireland can resemble that early in the evenings, but once the drinkers have reached the tipping point it mostly gets out of hand.

    I'm afraid if you're into clubbing or late night bars then there's no avoiding it, they operate as a pack where they pride themselves on how many pints they've had and when the prospect of going home arrives then they get a bit randy and will feel that any girl is fair prey!

    If you feel you can't cope with it then try a night in Newcastle in the UK and you'll realise that Ireland is fine compared to that!

    This is about her thinking Irish guys are all ugly and beneath her.

    And i happen to love Newcastle in the UK. And can confirm that Dublin is WAY worse for drunken trouble. Dublin is the worst place i've ever been to for drunken idiots, it's ridiculous!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    OP I don't want to sound mean to you but I have male friends who pester women when they are drunk. They like to call it 'chatting them up'. I'm sure they have annoyed a few women in their time but there is one thing they all have in common when they do this:
    1) The girl isn't the best looking & is an easy target i.e: easy lay.

    I'm not saying that's your story at all but just trying to give a bit of insight on one of the reasons men do this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 911 ✭✭✭994


    Irish men are so ugly - balding, pale faces, [...] They have the ego and cheek to think they can get women who are clearly way out of their league. Do they not look in the mirror? [...] In other countries men are polite to women. They respect them and don't just see them as tits and ass. AND they're good looking!!!

    Hypocrisy much?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,494 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Any tips on how to ward off these morons?

    The question is how do they fail to avoid you

    obvious troll tbh


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    Can I remind people of the charter of this forum.

    On-topic and constructive advice only please.

    If you feel someone is a troll, report the post. Do drag the thread off-topic to backseat moderate.

    Thank you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 438 ✭✭gerry28


    Op I was going to try and give you some advice on how to avoid some of this unwanted attention from a male perspective, but after rereading your post i don't want to help you at all.

    Its a pretty harsh post, yes there are no shortage of ugly men about, but there are ugly personalities also.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 460 ✭✭twanda


    .

    Any tips on how to ward off these morons???? I've tried just about everything and am at a loss.

    Get them to take off their beer goggles LOL
    Seriously tho, OP - If someone drunk is annoying you and won't go away then you find somewhere else to sit / drink.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 267 ✭✭Koushki


    I know where you're coming from.

    But that's just the thing, the less attractive men seem to have more balls then the attractive ones.
    maybe it's because if they approach a woman who may be ''out of their league'' they don't have much to loose if they get rejected.

    the amount of times i've been out and some horribly drunk mess would approach me and ask if i wanted a drink or a dance, whatever, and i first politely smile and say no, i'm here with my boyfriend, and they don't fcuk off.
    they only go away once my bf comes and saves me.

    some people, just can't take a hint. and sometimes you have to be rude back.(when i say that i mean if they say ''hey gawwwwgeous can i buy you a drink?'' you just say ''no'' and turn away)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 276 ✭✭badabinbadaboom


    Maybe if you had a strong enough personality you'd be able to do any of the following.
    -Find another way to meet men that doesnt involve poisoning yourself
    -Realise thats the reality of clubbing and live with it
    -Get over yourself
    -Move to one of these other countries where the men are Demi Gods
    -Understand that your not really that special and your bluntness with these ugly fellas is driving all the good lookers away because no man is bothered talking to a bitch. If they see that your a bitch to another fella when all he did was try making conversation, they wont be arsed.
    -Realise that maybe these other fellas are probably really nice fellas and could be very interesting people.

    You obviously dont have much life experience, maybe growing the **** up is the best thing for you to do wether your genuine or a troll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    Anyone else annoyed by this? Irish men are so ugly - balding, pale faces, etc etc and yet they have the nerve to think they're god's gift! They have the ego and cheek to think they can get women who are clearly way out of their league. Do they not look in the mirror?
    They just think they're wonderful! FFS! Particularly drunk Irish men.
    And then they're so rude.
    In other countries men are polite to women. They respect them and don't just see them as tits and ass. AND they're good looking!!!

    I'm sick of having to deal with crap from them on a night out. They don't take no for an answer - pestering you even if you say you're not interested.

    Any tips on how to ward off these morons???? I've tried just about everything and am at a loss. Fed up with them and their egos ruining my nights out with the girls/mates.


    Hey OP, i'm a good looking, polite, non drinking Irish guy.
    You don't have to worry about me, i certainly won't be hitting on you. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,925 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    I'd suggest you take your own advice and stop thinking you're gods gift there missy. Chances are, you're nowhere near it, especially with an attitude like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭Da Bounca


    I know what you mean OP. I'm so tired of these fugly drunken women grabbing my arse whenever I try to go and get a glass of vino from the bar.

    Where do they get off like, it's sickening. I mean when I was in the US, all of the women were mannerly and quite beautiful in general. Ireland, and particularly Dublin is a disgrace.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 bazolsen


    Missa thinks op should pull the pjay pants up and skip down to the local xtravision in knackerville and rent a copy of Shallow Hal...?:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,006 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    chist, think everyone needs to take a chill pill here...just coz you all know op is right and you're all in denial about being one of the said guys...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,772 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    you're all in denial about being one of the said guys...
    I may be ugly, but I don't drink. Where does that put me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    chist, think everyone needs to take a chill pill here...just coz you all know op is right and you're all in denial about being one of the said guys...


    I'll refer you to my above post, thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 914 ✭✭✭tommyboy2222


    You should try to lose some weight , fatty !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Anyone else annoyed by this? Irish men are so ugly - balding, pale faces, etc etc and yet they have the nerve to think they're god's gift! They have the ego and cheek to think they can get women who are clearly way out of their league. Do they not look in the mirror?
    They just think they're wonderful! FFS! Particularly drunk Irish men.
    And then they're so rude.
    In other countries men are polite to women. They respect them and don't just see them as tits and ass. AND they're good looking!!!

    I'm sick of having to deal with crap from them on a night out. They don't take no for an answer - pestering you even if you say you're not interested.

    Any tips on how to ward off these morons???? I've tried just about everything and am at a loss. Fed up with them and their egos ruining my nights out with the girls/mates.
    Dont let it get to you maybe?

    For a start I think you're being a bit unfair to the Irish male. Like any other ethnicity on the planet there are the good the bad and the downright ugly. Sadly you know seem to have this stereotype that All Irish men are bald fat and ugly.

    To some of the other posters in this thread: probably taking that jab personally eh? Liven up.

    I suggest not letting it bother you, to be perfectly honest. In my experience when youre bothered by something, it makes people that much more likely to press that button of yours. It only ruins what you think it ruins. If you don't think much of it, theres not going to be much left to think of. Simply put. If you think its going to Ruin your day if it rains, and then it does, your day will be ruined, as far as youre concerned. Thats just how the brain works.


  • Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭ Sarai Shy Lawn


    I agree about people being in denial. The OP is a bit strongly worded, but I agree with most of it. And for some reason, it IS always the creepy, weird looking guys who do this. And they don't take no for an answer. I tell them to go away, but it's still annoying. What I don't agree with is that it's just Irish men. I was sitting waiting for a friend here in Brussels last night and 3 different men sat down next to me and started talking to me. I totally blanked them, 2 got the picture and walked off but the other kept talking until my male friend arrived and gave him a bollicking. It's REALLY irritating. And they ARE always rotten. It bothers me that I can't go anywhere without being harrassed - park, station, bus, pubs, anywhere. Don't people realise that being a young woman doesn't mean you're inviting attention everywhere you go? I don't let it get me down too much, try to ignore it, but it is irritating.

    And most of the men posting here have totally missed the point, or are the men OP is talking about. I'm not rude or bitchy at all, have a long term boyfriend, but I hate when some weird, drunk, charmless, leering man feels that I have some sort of obligation to talk to him just because I happen to be out with friends. If someone comes over to the GROUP and is friendly, funny, chatty, OK, but the type who waits until you're alone, leans in way too close, sorry but that's plain annoying.
    the amount of times i've been out and some horribly drunk mess would approach me and ask if i wanted a drink or a dance, whatever, and i first politely smile and say no, i'm here with my boyfriend, and they don't fcuk off.
    they only go away once my bf comes and saves me.

    some people, just can't take a hint. and sometimes you have to be rude back.(when i say that i mean if they say ''hey gawwwwgeous can i buy you a drink?'' you just say ''no'' and turn away)

    +1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Thoushaltnot


    Anyone else annoyed by this? Irish men are so ugly - balding, pale faces, etc etc and yet they have the nerve to think they're god's gift! They have the ego and cheek to think they can get women who are clearly way out of their league. Do they not look in the mirror?

    I'm guessing that the OP is just venting after a particularly bad night of this crap. There are plenty of attractive Irish men (looks and/or personality) out there - unfortunately, they seem to be all taken. I've given up.
    They just think they're wonderful! FFS! Particularly drunk Irish men.

    Highlighting that for the poster who said he didn't drink. Although, I've never heard of a sober Irish pest.
    And then they're so rude.

    Unfortunately, this is true. Rude and persistent. Especially if with "de lads".
    Like they have to show "that bitch", if she gives them the hint, who's runing the show.
    In other countries men are polite to women. They respect them and don't just see them as tits and ass. AND they're good looking!!!

    Er, no. Afganistan. Yemen. Pigalle district in Paris. Rome. And just because a guy comes up to you and gives it all the romantic schmooze, doesn't mean he isn't out for what he can get. Or won't turn into a wife beater/pig after he marries you. Different nationalities, different styles.
    I'm sick of having to deal with crap from them on a night out. They don't take no for an answer - pestering you even if you say you're not interested.

    Any tips on how to ward off these morons???? I've tried just about everything and am at a loss. Fed up with them and their egos ruining my nights out with the girls/mates.

    Lads, I'm afraid she does have a point though. Irish men used to be great - even if you didn't fancy the guy, you could still hang out and become friends/ have the craic, but now it's all grabbing, pestering, rudeness, not taking the hint but instead turning it into an issue. Or guys who will chat to you for 5mins during the 2am crawl and if you're not looking like you're 'up fer it', will walk away, mid sentence to the next target. And those goons are cowardly - they don't back off unless a boyf turns up or a better target is found. I used to think it was about the cocaine & drink fuelled binges but it seems to be still going on, despite the recession.

    Mind you, I am getting from boards.ie and other places that there are a lot of bitchy girls out there too, who won't look at a guy unless he drives a certain make of posh car, so that does even things up a bit, I suppose.

    But 2 wrongs never made a right.

    I no longer go to town of a weekend. The goons/sleazy married men/flocks of lads and the fishwives/princessas can have each other.

    Why not try looking for polish/russian nights? Last I heard, the Czech Inn was full of Czeck people. Why not try the german/spanish/french language institutes for social events. I think it's Africa weekend in the Iveagh gardens at the mo.

    Or you could try Opera/theatre/shows? Or look in the Non Drinkers section here, on boards, for upcoming events?

    Also, where are the Mods for this thread?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭SarahSassy


    Lads, I'm afraid she does have a point though. Irish men used to be great - even if you didn't fancy the guy, you could still hang out and become friends/ have the craic, but now it's all grabbing, pestering, rudeness, not taking the hint but instead turning it into an issue. Or guys who will chat to you for 5mins during the 2am crawl and if you're not looking like you're 'up fer it', will walk away, mid sentence to the next target. And those goons are cowardly - they don't back off unless a boyf turns up or a better target is found. I used to think it was about the cocaine & drink fuelled binges but it seems to be still going on, despite the recession.

    While the OP comes across as a bit arrogant I would also think that this is borne of total exasperation at the time she was posting.

    The above comment is too true and while its a chicken an egg question - who became rude first - the men because women were rude to them when they approached them or the women who got sick of drunk and rude men approaching them. I think one issue is feeding the other and due to previous experiences I now have limited patience when a stranger approaches me at a bar - its just too hard to get rid of them if you are not up for a chat / snog / drink / shag...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,296 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    tommyboy2222 we can see the anon posts you know. Ease up on the oul abuse thanks. Infracted

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭t-ha


    Jaysus - I guess the OP is the cause of all Ireland's problems! Lets be honest here, the irish drinking culture is to get completely messy hammered and for guys to incoherently try to grab on the nearest bit of skirt.

    Obviusly all the 'out of their league' talk smacks of being a bit up herself but I think the main complaint is fair enough? Alot of guys complain that they don't get a good reaction from women when they chat them up, but they wait until it's the end of the night and they're wasted to even try! Some girls like coherency, manners and 'real' humour and self-confidence.

    I don't think there's a solution though, different people want different things - throw them all into a club together and there's bound to be some problems.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    They have the ego and cheek to think they can get women who are clearly way out of their league. Do they not look in the mirror?

    What would you say OP to an "ugly" guy who tried to chat you up, but who wasn't drunk and gracefully took the hint? I'd imagine you would turn around to your mates and snigger at the guy for being "delusional" enough to think that he had a chance with you. You shouldn't have to put up with drunken lechery OP, but because of your attitude I have absolutely no sympathy for you whatsoever.
    In other countries men are polite to women. They respect them and don't just see them as tits and ass. AND they're good looking!!!

    Let me get this straight. Men in other countries are great because they don't treat women like "tits and ass". Then you turn around in the next sentence and make yourself look like a hypocrite by showing a lack of respect towards them, as if their looks somehow validate their actions. I'm embarassed for you OP.


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