How to avoid (ugly) drunks.

LegacyUser

Anyone else annoyed by this? Irish men are so ugly - balding, pale faces, etc etc and yet they have the nerve to think they're god's gift! They have the ego and cheek to think they can get women who are clearly way out of their league. Do they not look in the mirror?
They just think they're wonderful! FFS! Particularly drunk Irish men.
And then they're so rude.
In other countries men are polite to women. They respect them and don't just see them as tits and ass. AND they're good looking!!!

I'm sick of having to deal with crap from them on a night out. They don't take no for an answer - pestering you even if you say you're not interested.

Any tips on how to ward off these morons???? I've tried just about everything and am at a loss. Fed up with them and their egos ruining my nights out with the girls/mates.

Firetrap

Jayz. For a few moments I thought it was an After Hours thread! I don't think any Irish woman has ever escaped these creeps. I've gotten to a stage of my life where I don't take any cr@p any ore so I just tell them to go away. Yes, it's rude but it works. Some of these people can't take a hint so you have to be blunt.

MrStuffins

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Any tips on how to ward off these morons???? I've tried just about everything and am at a loss. Fed up with them and their egos ruining my nights out with the girls/mates.

From the sounds of it, just be yourself. Nobody will want to talk to you at all!

You are the answer to this thread

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055563095&goto=newpost

Victor

Thread title changed. OP, you attitude dioesn't seem to be helping you.

Drunks the world over pester other people. Alcohol is a de-inhibitor.

gizmo

Here's a hint, start off the inevitable conversation with this line...

They have the ego and cheek to think they can get women who are clearly way out of their league. Do they not look in the mirror?

...and if they have any sense they'll realise they're talking to a complete and utter muppet and walk away, that way everybody wins.

On a serious note, assuming what you say actually applies to you then I'd say you're one of those girls who is usually involved with rather attractive looking guys who you later complain turn into assholes and treat you like crap. Here's a hint, maybe focus more on the person's personality and how they behave rather than being completely shallow and only paying attention to their looks. I'd say doing this would allow you to find a nice all round guy but with the attitude you're showing in your post I doubt he'd be very interested...

LegacyUser

funny, I find the drink culture here pretty difficult to comprehend. In many other countries the people drink less and maintain some civilised manner about them, ireland can resemble that early in the evenings, but once the drinkers have reached the tipping point it mostly gets out of hand.

I'm afraid if you're into clubbing or late night bars then there's no avoiding it, they operate as a pack where they pride themselves on how many pints they've had and when the prospect of going home arrives then they get a bit randy and will feel that any girl is fair prey!

If you feel you can't cope with it then try a night in Newcastle in the UK and you'll realise that Ireland is fine compared to that!

mikemac

Unregistered wrote: »

They have the ego and cheek to think they can get women who are clearly way out of their league. Do they not look in the mirror?

Well you seem to be attracting them.
But nowhere in your post do you mention you meeting attractive men.

So if you're going to mention leagues maybe you are attracting the men who are exactly on your level.
Sure wouldn't you already have a great guy on your arm if you were all that.

MrStuffins

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funny, I find the drink culture here pretty difficult to comprehend. In many other countries the people drink less and maintain some civilised manner about them, ireland can resemble that early in the evenings, but once the drinkers have reached the tipping point it mostly gets out of hand.

I'm afraid if you're into clubbing or late night bars then there's no avoiding it, they operate as a pack where they pride themselves on how many pints they've had and when the prospect of going home arrives then they get a bit randy and will feel that any girl is fair prey!

If you feel you can't cope with it then try a night in Newcastle in the UK and you'll realise that Ireland is fine compared to that!

This is about her thinking Irish guys are all ugly and beneath her.

And i happen to love Newcastle in the UK. And can confirm that Dublin is WAY worse for drunken trouble. Dublin is the worst place i've ever been to for drunken idiots, it's ridiculous!

easyeason3

OP I don't want to sound mean to you but I have male friends who pester women when they are drunk. They like to call it 'chatting them up'. I'm sure they have annoyed a few women in their time but there is one thing they all have in common when they do this:
1) The girl isn't the best looking & is an easy target i.e: easy lay.

I'm not saying that's your story at all but just trying to give a bit of insight on one of the reasons men do this.

994

Unregistered wrote: »

Irish men are so ugly - balding, pale faces, [...] They have the ego and cheek to think they can get women who are clearly way out of their league. Do they not look in the mirror? [...] In other countries men are polite to women. They respect them and don't just see them as tits and ass. AND they're good looking!!!

Hypocrisy much?

My name is URL

Any tips on how to ward off these morons?

The question is how do they fail to avoid you

obvious troll tbh

Silverfish

Can I remind people of the charter of this forum.

On-topic and constructive advice only please.

If you feel someone is a troll, report the post. Do drag the thread off-topic to backseat moderate.

Thank you.

gerry28

Op I was going to try and give you some advice on how to avoid some of this unwanted attention from a male perspective, but after rereading your post i don't want to help you at all.

Its a pretty harsh post, yes there are no shortage of ugly men about, but there are ugly personalities also.

twanda

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Any tips on how to ward off these morons???? I've tried just about everything and am at a loss.

Get them to take off their beer goggles LOL
Seriously tho, OP - If someone drunk is annoying you and won't go away then you find somewhere else to sit / drink.

Koushki

I know where you're coming from.

But that's just the thing, the less attractive men seem to have more balls then the attractive ones.
maybe it's because if they approach a woman who may be ''out of their league'' they don't have much to loose if they get rejected.

the amount of times i've been out and some horribly drunk mess would approach me and ask if i wanted a drink or a dance, whatever, and i first politely smile and say no, i'm here with my boyfriend, and they don't fcuk off.
they only go away once my bf comes and saves me.

some people, just can't take a hint. and sometimes you have to be rude back.(when i say that i mean if they say ''hey gawwwwgeous can i buy you a drink?'' you just say ''no'' and turn away)

badabinbadaboom

Maybe if you had a strong enough personality you'd be able to do any of the following.
-Find another way to meet men that doesnt involve poisoning yourself
-Realise thats the reality of clubbing and live with it
-Get over yourself
-Move to one of these other countries where the men are Demi Gods
-Understand that your not really that special and your bluntness with these ugly fellas is driving all the good lookers away because no man is bothered talking to a bitch. If they see that your a bitch to another fella when all he did was try making conversation, they wont be arsed.
-Realise that maybe these other fellas are probably really nice fellas and could be very interesting people.

You obviously dont have much life experience, maybe growing the **** up is the best thing for you to do wether your genuine or a troll.

CianRyan

Unregistered wrote: »

Anyone else annoyed by this? Irish men are so ugly - balding, pale faces, etc etc and yet they have the nerve to think they're god's gift! They have the ego and cheek to think they can get women who are clearly way out of their league. Do they not look in the mirror?
They just think they're wonderful! FFS! Particularly drunk Irish men.
And then they're so rude.
In other countries men are polite to women. They respect them and don't just see them as tits and ass. AND they're good looking!!!

I'm sick of having to deal with crap from them on a night out. They don't take no for an answer - pestering you even if you say you're not interested.

Any tips on how to ward off these morons???? I've tried just about everything and am at a loss. Fed up with them and their egos ruining my nights out with the girls/mates.

Hey OP, i'm a good looking, polite, non drinking Irish guy.
You don't have to worry about me, i certainly won't be hitting on you.

challengemaster

I'd suggest you take your own advice and stop thinking you're gods gift there missy. Chances are, you're nowhere near it, especially with an attitude like that.

Da Bounca

I know what you mean OP. I'm so tired of these fugly drunken women grabbing my arse whenever I try to go and get a glass of vino from the bar.

Where do they get off like, it's sickening. I mean when I was in the US, all of the women were mannerly and quite beautiful in general. Ireland, and particularly Dublin is a disgrace.

bazolsen

Missa thinks op should pull the pjay pants up and skip down to the local xtravision in knackerville and rent a copy of Shallow Hal...?:D

LegacyUser

chist, think everyone needs to take a chill pill here...just coz you all know op is right and you're all in denial about being one of the said guys...

Victor

Unregistered wrote: »

you're all in denial about being one of the said guys...

I may be ugly, but I don't drink. Where does that put me?

CianRyan

Unregistered wrote: »

chist, think everyone needs to take a chill pill here...just coz you all know op is right and you're all in denial about being one of the said guys...

I'll refer you to my above post, thanks.

tommyboy2222

You should try to lose some weight , fatty !

Overheal

Unregistered wrote: »

Anyone else annoyed by this? Irish men are so ugly - balding, pale faces, etc etc and yet they have the nerve to think they're god's gift! They have the ego and cheek to think they can get women who are clearly way out of their league. Do they not look in the mirror?
They just think they're wonderful! FFS! Particularly drunk Irish men.
And then they're so rude.
In other countries men are polite to women. They respect them and don't just see them as tits and ass. AND they're good looking!!!

I'm sick of having to deal with crap from them on a night out. They don't take no for an answer - pestering you even if you say you're not interested.

Any tips on how to ward off these morons???? I've tried just about everything and am at a loss. Fed up with them and their egos ruining my nights out with the girls/mates.

Dont let it get to you maybe?

For a start I think you're being a bit unfair to the Irish male. Like any other ethnicity on the planet there are the good the bad and the downright ugly. Sadly you know seem to have this stereotype that All Irish men are bald fat and ugly.

To some of the other posters in this thread: probably taking that jab personally eh? Liven up.

I suggest not letting it bother you, to be perfectly honest. In my experience when youre bothered by something, it makes people that much more likely to press that button of yours. It only ruins what you think it ruins. If you don't think much of it, theres not going to be much left to think of. Simply put. If you think its going to Ruin your day if it rains, and then it does, your day will be ruined, as far as youre concerned. Thats just how the brain works.

I agree about people being in denial. The OP is a bit strongly worded, but I agree with most of it. And for some reason, it IS always the creepy, weird looking guys who do this. And they don't take no for an answer. I tell them to go away, but it's still annoying. What I don't agree with is that it's just Irish men. I was sitting waiting for a friend here in Brussels last night and 3 different men sat down next to me and started talking to me. I totally blanked them, 2 got the picture and walked off but the other kept talking until my male friend arrived and gave him a bollicking. It's REALLY irritating. And they ARE always rotten. It bothers me that I can't go anywhere without being harrassed - park, station, bus, pubs, anywhere. Don't people realise that being a young woman doesn't mean you're inviting attention everywhere you go? I don't let it get me down too much, try to ignore it, but it is irritating.

And most of the men posting here have totally missed the point, or are the men OP is talking about. I'm not rude or bitchy at all, have a long term boyfriend, but I hate when some weird, drunk, charmless, leering man feels that I have some sort of obligation to talk to him just because I happen to be out with friends. If someone comes over to the GROUP and is friendly, funny, chatty, OK, but the type who waits until you're alone, leans in way too close, sorry but that's plain annoying.

the amount of times i've been out and some horribly drunk mess would approach me and ask if i wanted a drink or a dance, whatever, and i first politely smile and say no, i'm here with my boyfriend, and they don't fcuk off.
they only go away once my bf comes and saves me.

some people, just can't take a hint. and sometimes you have to be rude back.(when i say that i mean if they say ''hey gawwwwgeous can i buy you a drink?'' you just say ''no'' and turn away)

+1

Thoushaltnot

Unregistered wrote: »

Anyone else annoyed by this? Irish men are so ugly - balding, pale faces, etc etc and yet they have the nerve to think they're god's gift! They have the ego and cheek to think they can get women who are clearly way out of their league. Do they not look in the mirror?

I'm guessing that the OP is just venting after a particularly bad night of this crap. There are plenty of attractive Irish men (looks and/or personality) out there - unfortunately, they seem to be all taken. I've given up.

They just think they're wonderful! FFS! Particularly drunk Irish men.

Highlighting that for the poster who said he didn't drink. Although, I've never heard of a sober Irish pest.

And then they're so rude.

Unfortunately, this is true. Rude and persistent. Especially if with "de lads".
Like they have to show "that bitch", if she gives them the hint, who's runing the show.

In other countries men are polite to women. They respect them and don't just see them as tits and ass. AND they're good looking!!!

Er, no. Afganistan. Yemen. Pigalle district in Paris. Rome. And just because a guy comes up to you and gives it all the romantic schmooze, doesn't mean he isn't out for what he can get. Or won't turn into a wife beater/pig after he marries you. Different nationalities, different styles.

I'm sick of having to deal with crap from them on a night out. They don't take no for an answer - pestering you even if you say you're not interested.

Any tips on how to ward off these morons???? I've tried just about everything and am at a loss. Fed up with them and their egos ruining my nights out with the girls/mates.

Lads, I'm afraid she does have a point though. Irish men used to be great - even if you didn't fancy the guy, you could still hang out and become friends/ have the craic, but now it's all grabbing, pestering, rudeness, not taking the hint but instead turning it into an issue. Or guys who will chat to you for 5mins during the 2am crawl and if you're not looking like you're 'up fer it', will walk away, mid sentence to the next target. And those goons are cowardly - they don't back off unless a boyf turns up or a better target is found. I used to think it was about the cocaine & drink fuelled binges but it seems to be still going on, despite the recession.

Mind you, I am getting from boards.ie and other places that there are a lot of bitchy girls out there too, who won't look at a guy unless he drives a certain make of posh car, so that does even things up a bit, I suppose.

But 2 wrongs never made a right.

I no longer go to town of a weekend. The goons/sleazy married men/flocks of lads and the fishwives/princessas can have each other.

Why not try looking for polish/russian nights? Last I heard, the Czech Inn was full of Czeck people. Why not try the german/spanish/french language institutes for social events. I think it's Africa weekend in the Iveagh gardens at the mo.

Or you could try Opera/theatre/shows? Or look in the Non Drinkers section here, on boards, for upcoming events?

Also, where are the Mods for this thread?

SarahSassy

Thoushaltnot wrote: »

Lads, I'm afraid she does have a point though. Irish men used to be great - even if you didn't fancy the guy, you could still hang out and become friends/ have the craic, but now it's all grabbing, pestering, rudeness, not taking the hint but instead turning it into an issue. Or guys who will chat to you for 5mins during the 2am crawl and if you're not looking like you're 'up fer it', will walk away, mid sentence to the next target. And those goons are cowardly - they don't back off unless a boyf turns up or a better target is found. I used to think it was about the cocaine & drink fuelled binges but it seems to be still going on, despite the recession.

While the OP comes across as a bit arrogant I would also think that this is borne of total exasperation at the time she was posting.

The above comment is too true and while its a chicken an egg question - who became rude first - the men because women were rude to them when they approached them or the women who got sick of drunk and rude men approaching them. I think one issue is feeding the other and due to previous experiences I now have limited patience when a stranger approaches me at a bar - its just too hard to get rid of them if you are not up for a chat / snog / drink / shag...

Wibbs

tommyboy2222 we can see the anon posts you know. Ease up on the oul abuse thanks. Infracted

t-ha

Jaysus - I guess the OP is the cause of all Ireland's problems! Lets be honest here, the irish drinking culture is to get completely messy hammered and for guys to incoherently try to grab on the nearest bit of skirt.

Obviusly all the 'out of their league' talk smacks of being a bit up herself but I think the main complaint is fair enough? Alot of guys complain that they don't get a good reaction from women when they chat them up, but they wait until it's the end of the night and they're wasted to even try! Some girls like coherency, manners and 'real' humour and self-confidence.

I don't think there's a solution though, different people want different things - throw them all into a club together and there's bound to be some problems.

Handsome Bob

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They have the ego and cheek to think they can get women who are clearly way out of their league. Do they not look in the mirror?

What would you say OP to an "ugly" guy who tried to chat you up, but who wasn't drunk and gracefully took the hint? I'd imagine you would turn around to your mates and snigger at the guy for being "delusional" enough to think that he had a chance with you. You shouldn't have to put up with drunken lechery OP, but because of your attitude I have absolutely no sympathy for you whatsoever.

In other countries men are polite to women. They respect them and don't just see them as tits and ass. AND they're good looking!!!

Let me get this straight. Men in other countries are great because they don't treat women like "tits and ass". Then you turn around in the next sentence and make yourself look like a hypocrite by showing a lack of respect towards them, as if their looks somehow validate their actions. I'm embarassed for you OP.

LegacyUser

Yes, I was totally at witts end when I posted that.
Let me give you an example (just one in a long line) of something that happened recently.

Out for a girls night. Three girls sitting and chatting. A drunken oaf comes over to chat to me. I'm polite, he asks my name etc. I tell him. Have a polite conversation. Then his hand goes to my back and he starts whispering in my ear while I'm having a convo with two of my mates! He was expecting me to only talk to him and ignore my mates. I politely said to him 'sorry but we're just here to have a girls night out.' He wouldn't take no for an answer and was getting more touchy feely. One of my mates steps in and says sorry bud we're just here to catch up with each other. The ****er then turned nasty! My mate is a bigger girl and he started shouting abuse at her. He called her a fat bitch and said you're just jealous...and he went on a tirade for 5 minutes. I felt so bad for my mate. She was gutted!

This is the kind of **** I'm talking about!

I'm not shallow - to me personality is all that matters in the opposite sex. I don't care what kind of car someone drives, what kind of job they have etc.

But what annoys me is this type of man thinks he can get any girl yet he is rude and insulting to people he thinks are beneath him! THAT'S the gist of what I was trying to get at with the ugly/league remark. They think they're hot ****, when they're not and they are rude to people who aren't models.

It's so annoying. It's arrogant. And they border on lecherous. My mate came from a visit from the North a couple of years ago. In the North it's a bit different (men will approach you and ask can they buy you a drink). She had never been down south before and I warned her about aggressive men. She didn't believe me. We walked up from the train station and popped into a pub and we just sat down with drinks and one of these leaches comes over starts whispering to her etc (totally excluding me from convo) and then just says to her - come to my hotel room with me. In a span of 5 minutes! She was horrified.

Anyways, rant over.

NickNolte

Unregistered wrote: »

Anyone else annoyed by this? Irish men are so ugly - balding, pale faces, etc etc and yet they have the nerve to think they're god's gift!

Nobody seems to have offered a solution to this 'personal issue' so let me be the first. OP - I'm assuming that you're single? Find yourself a foreign boyfriend. Problem solved! It'll be a bitter pill to swallow for single Irish men on the dating scene that one of the classiest most beautful Irish women is not longer eligible... but I'm sure they'll get over it.

Firetrap

I think a lot of the people posting here are taking the OP up wrong. OK, so she may have worded her post a bit strongly but it's not to take away from her main point. There is a difference between being chatted up by normal guys and having creeps latch on to you for the night and lurk like a bad smell. It's happened to me. It's happened to my friends. None of us are snotty prima donnas who only want Brad Pitt to talk to us.

Acacia

I have to say, the rudest man I ever encountered on a night out (following my friends and I around, groping us, etc) was an actually Polish, so go figure...

What I mean is, you can't generalize based on nationality. Drunk men are lecherous creeps around women all over the world- it's the nature of pubs and clubs, most people ( guys and girls) are there for one thing only.

To answer your question, give some vague, non-committal answer like "Sorry, can't accept that drink, my bf is waiting for me over there..." and walk off. If they follow, you be firm but polite, that you're not interested. If they still don't get the message, you might have to tell them to ''F-" off.

Dord

Oh how I love sweeping generalisations! :rolleyes:

OP, I suggest you firstly take a look at yourself and how you act. Then I think you should change where you go for a night out. It sounds like you're going to the wrong places.

Wagon

Unregistered wrote: »

Anyone else annoyed by this? Irish men are so ugly - balding, pale faces, etc etc and yet they have the nerve to think they're god's gift! They have the ego and cheek to think they can get women who are clearly way out of their league. Do they not look in the mirror?
They just think they're wonderful! FFS! Particularly drunk Irish men.
And then they're so rude.
In other countries men are polite to women. They respect them and don't just see them as tits and ass. AND they're good looking!!!

I'm sick of having to deal with crap from them on a night out. They don't take no for an answer - pestering you even if you say you're not interested.

Any tips on how to ward off these morons???? I've tried just about everything and am at a loss. Fed up with them and their egos ruining my nights out with the girls/mates.

Your personality sounds like a great deterent. Have you tried talking to them?

NickNolte

Firetrap wrote: »

I think a lot of the people posting here are taking the OP up wrong. OK, so she may have worded her post a bit strongly but it's not to take away from her main point. There is a difference between being chatted up by normal guys and having creeps latch on to you for the night and lurk like a bad smell. It's happened to me. It's happened to my friends. None of us are snotty prima donnas who only want Brad Pitt to talk to us.

Sorry, but the OP said:

Anyone else annoyed by this? Irish men are so ugly - balding, pale faces, etc etc

The same could be said for Irish women... they're all pale faced, fat and ugly. But that simply wouldn't be true. Nor is it true for Irish men. A percentage of men the world over are bald and ugly. So what? A percentage of women the world over are fat and ugly. So what? That's just life.

Irish men are no more lecherous or creepy then men the world over. If you're being harrassed by men on a night out and you ask them to leave you alone and they don't... let the security staff know. It sounds like unacceptable behaviour to me. I don't know many guys that are like that but then I probably hang in different circles.

My problem with the OP's post is that it places very little emphasis on anything other than the fact that she's frustrated that she's not being chatted up by good looking men. She then proceeds to call all Irish men bald and ugly, etc. To my mind, this is the very reason she's not being approached by genuine, attractive men. You know girls, you're not the only one with a 6th sense. Men have bitch radars. Good men's tend to be more finely honed.

Acacia

I suppose people have different views of 'chatting up' and 'harrassing'. It could be the guys in question genuinely don't mean to offend/annoy the women they're talking to, whereas women might feel the guys are forcing their company on them...then you add in lots of drink and it's gets even more confusing.

I try to look at it this way : "Sure, the guy is being a bit annoying, but maybe he thinks I'm nice/pretty/ etc." Isn't it better to have people attracted to you than nobody noticing you? Even if they're not your type.

Dudess

Unregistered wrote: »

Anyone else annoyed by this? Irish men are so ugly

I'm in awe at how you've managed to meet every single Irish man... :rolleyes:

balding, pale faces, etc etc and yet they have the nerve to think they're god's gift! They have the ego and cheek to think they can get women who are clearly way out of their league. Do they not look in the mirror?
They just think they're wonderful! FFS! Particularly drunk Irish men.
And then they're so rude.
In other countries men are polite to women. They respect them and don't just see them as tits and ass. AND they're good looking!!!

I'm sick of having to deal with crap from them on a night out. They don't take no for an answer - pestering you even if you say you're not interested.

Any tips on how to ward off these morons???? I've tried just about everything and am at a loss. Fed up with them and their egos ruining my nights out with the girls/mates.

The people defending the OP seem to think she said, albeit in a harsh manner, "I'm sick of drunken, boorish, leering idiots giving me hassle on a night out - anyone got any advice on how to make them keep the hell away?"
She actually didn't though. She's focusing primarily on their looks, the drunkenness and rudeness are secondary concerns. So OP, if a really good-looking guy who was drunk and behaved exactly the same way as the "ugly" ones approached, it looks like you'd have no problem with him.

I wouldn't be one bit surprised if the OP and those in agreement with her (e.g. those who are saying the OP's detractors are "in denial" :rolleyes:) were appalled at the anti Irish women threads in AH which are exactly the same as this.

NickNolte

It just sounds like selfish desperation to me. "Why can't I get some attention from a good looking man with expensive clothes and nice hair?". One day, when/if she grows up, she'll realise Brad Pitt isn't coming for her and she'll have to settle for a mere mortal. Like her.

Wibbs

OP posted again in case some missed it

Unregistered wrote: »

Yes, I was totally at witts end when I posted that.
Let me give you an example (just one in a long line) of something that happened recently.

Out for a girls night. Three girls sitting and chatting. A drunken oaf comes over to chat to me. I'm polite, he asks my name etc. I tell him. Have a polite conversation. Then his hand goes to my back and he starts whispering in my ear while I'm having a convo with two of my mates! He was expecting me to only talk to him and ignore my mates. I politely said to him 'sorry but we're just here to have a girls night out.' He wouldn't take no for an answer and was getting more touchy feely. One of my mates steps in and says sorry bud we're just here to catch up with each other. The ****er then turned nasty! My mate is a bigger girl and he started shouting abuse at her. He called her a fat bitch and said you're just jealous...and he went on a tirade for 5 minutes. I felt so bad for my mate. She was gutted!

This is the kind of **** I'm talking about!

I'm not shallow - to me personality is all that matters in the opposite sex. I don't care what kind of car someone drives, what kind of job they have etc.

But what annoys me is this type of man thinks he can get any girl yet he is rude and insulting to people he thinks are beneath him! THAT'S the gist of what I was trying to get at with the ugly/league remark. They think they're hot ****, when they're not and they are rude to people who aren't models.

It's so annoying. It's arrogant. And they border on lecherous. My mate came from a visit from the North a couple of years ago. In the North it's a bit different (men will approach you and ask can they buy you a drink). She had never been down south before and I warned her about aggressive men. She didn't believe me. We walked up from the train station and popped into a pub and we just sat down with drinks and one of these leaches comes over starts whispering to her etc (totally excluding me from convo) and then just says to her - come to my hotel room with me. In a span of 5 minutes! She was horrified.

Anyways, rant over.

NickNolte

The ****er then turned nasty! My mate is a bigger girl and he started shouting abuse at her. He called her a fat bitch and said you're just jealous...and he went on a tirade for 5 minutes.

Get in touch with security and have him thrown out? :rolleyes:

Salome

I was wondering if the OP's last post was invisible to some people! So thanks, Wibbs, for highlighting her clarification.

I can see she was extremely annoyed when she started but reading her most recent post, I kinda see her point.

Unfortunately, some Irish men, in order to gain more confidence, tank themselves up and by the end of the evening, when feeling happy as Larry, they decide to talk to a woman. Unfortunately, at this point, they are always going to come across as leery, lechy, horny old soaks who just want a bunk-up and get offended/embarrassed by the ensuing rejection.

NickNolte

Salome wrote: »

Unfortunately, some Irish men, in order to gain more confidence, tank themselves up and by the end of the evening, when feeling happy as Larry, they decide to talk to a woman. Unfortunately, at this point, they are always going to come across as leery, lechy, horny old soaks who just want a bunk-up and get offended/embarrassed by the ensuing rejection.

I believe it's called a 'Catch 22' situation. Unfortunately there are just as many women who will be hostile and vicious to men who approach them, regardless of how sober or genuine they are. I'd imagine the OP is one of these women.

Handsome Bob

Unregistered wrote: »

Yes, I was totally at witts end when I posted that.
Let me give you an example (just one in a long line) of something that happened recently.

Out for a girls night. Three girls sitting and chatting. A drunken oaf comes over to chat to me. I'm polite, he asks my name etc. I tell him. Have a polite conversation. Then his hand goes to my back and he starts whispering in my ear while I'm having a convo with two of my mates! He was expecting me to only talk to him and ignore my mates. I politely said to him 'sorry but we're just here to have a girls night out.' He wouldn't take no for an answer and was getting more touchy feely. One of my mates steps in and says sorry bud we're just here to catch up with each other. The ****er then turned nasty! My mate is a bigger girl and he started shouting abuse at her. He called her a fat bitch and said you're just jealous...and he went on a tirade for 5 minutes. I felt so bad for my mate. She was gutted!

This is the kind of **** I'm talking about!

I'm not shallow - to me personality is all that matters in the opposite sex. I don't care what kind of car someone drives, what kind of job they have etc.

But what annoys me is this type of man thinks he can get any girl yet he is rude and insulting to people he thinks are beneath him! THAT'S the gist of what I was trying to get at with the ugly/league remark. They think they're hot ****, when they're not and they are rude to people who aren't models.

It's so annoying. It's arrogant. And they border on lecherous. My mate came from a visit from the North a couple of years ago. In the North it's a bit different (men will approach you and ask can they buy you a drink). She had never been down south before and I warned her about aggressive men. She didn't believe me. We walked up from the train station and popped into a pub and we just sat down with drinks and one of these leaches comes over starts whispering to her etc (totally excluding me from convo) and then just says to her - come to my hotel room with me. In a span of 5 minutes! She was horrified.

Anyways, rant over.

OP you would have saved yourself a lot of needless abuse if you had posted this as your opening post.

What can I say? There are ignorant and agressive people out there and it's unfortunate your friend got that kind of abuse. But that's not something exclusive to just Irish men, you'll get it everywhere.

MJOR

In all honesty OP every man that chats you up cannot be all that bad? You seem to be a bit of a l@nger magnet alright god love you but I think you are being unrealistic.... If someone annoys you that much just tell them to get lost and if it doesn't work walk away....I understand your frustration but maybe you are going to picki up joints? Or perhaps giving out the wrong vibe? Either way you're obviously very frustrated and a little harsh i think.

Gator

Unregistered wrote: »

funny, I find the drink culture here pretty difficult to comprehend. In many other countries the people drink less and maintain some civilised manner about them, ireland can resemble that early in the evenings, but once the drinkers have reached the tipping point it mostly gets out of hand.

HA!...are you having a laugh!!! welcome to Ireland.....

Partizan

Unregistered wrote: »

Anyone else annoyed by this? Irish men are so ugly - balding, pale faces, etc etc and yet they have the nerve to think they're god's gift! They have the ego and cheek to think they can get women who are clearly way out of their league. Do they not look in the mirror?
They just think they're wonderful! FFS! Particularly drunk Irish men.
And then they're so rude.
In other countries men are polite to women. They respect them and don't just see them as tits and ass. AND they're good looking!!!

I'm sick of having to deal with crap from them on a night out. They don't take no for an answer - pestering you even if you say you're not interested.

Any tips on how to ward off these morons???? I've tried just about everything and am at a loss. Fed up with them and their egos ruining my nights out with the girls/mates.

My God, such crap. You know what, if i ever had the misfortune to meet you on a night out, I would run a mile. I'm decent guy, yes i'm bald, i work out and always hold open the door for a lady. I was taught to respect, honest and be courteous to women but if I saw you coming along, i would not hesitate for 1 second to slam the door firmly in your face.

Dragan

Unregistered wrote: »

Anyone else annoyed by this? Irish men are so ugly - balding, pale faces, etc etc and yet they have the nerve to think they're god's gift! They have the ego and cheek to think they can get women who are clearly way out of their league. Do they not look in the mirror?
They just think they're wonderful! FFS! Particularly drunk Irish men.
And then they're so rude.
In other countries men are polite to women. They respect them and don't just see them as tits and ass. AND they're good looking!!!

I'm sick of having to deal with crap from them on a night out. They don't take no for an answer - pestering you even if you say you're not interested.

Any tips on how to ward off these morons???? I've tried just about everything and am at a loss. Fed up with them and their egos ruining my nights out with the girls/mates.

I hope you are about 16, because having to explain this anyone over that age is very depressing.

When you are in another country you are a tourist. Tourists go out and get drunk and **** strange men they meet on holiday. This happens, as you are a tourist it is likely to happen with you on a statistical level, as these men want to **** you they will be nice to you, they will do this in the safety knowing that after they deposit there man jam in whatever YOU consider to be a suitable vestibule you will then go home.

I hope this doesn't shatter you illusions in any way.

I can't help you with anything else as i get the impression the problem is largely with the following three things.

1) Where you drink
2) Who you drink with
3) You attitude towards life.

murrmurr

To the OP, You mean Irish guys actually still go for Irish girls? goodness they must be desperate, everyone I know is married/dating foreign women (including me )

viva la choice!!