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Anime
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22-05-2009 2:15pm#1
There's nothing quite like a good Anime film, is there? There's some incredible directors like Hayao Miyazaki, Satoshi Kon, Katsuhiro Otomo, Isao Takahata to name just a few, who have some absolutely spectacular films between them. I'm sure there's more than a few fans here, what are some of your favourites, or what have you seen lately that you'd recommend? What about people who've never watched any anime? Any questions, or such?
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Rule of thumb for the uninitiated... NEVER GET A DUB
Add to the list:
Appleseed
Appleseed: Ex machina
Vexille
Ghost in the Shell 1 & 2:
Akira
Metropolis
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Just watched this one recently. Not a classic, but a decent little film. Haven't seen either of the Appleseed films.
Absolutely adored Metropolis though, what a staggering piece of work!
Have you seen this?
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5 Centimetres Per Second is one I've been meaning to watch for a while. Saw the director's other films (check out Voices of a Distant Star - 30 minutes of brilliance) and they really show promise.
When it comes to anime, though, I think there is a high crap / brilliance ratio. We're probably on the lucky end of it, as only good stuff is going to get released here, but even a glance through the anime section in tower shows a lot of generic school girl / giant robot DVDs. But directors like Mayasaki or Kon are amongst the most amazing animators working today. I also think its worth noting that they have a far superior 'mature' animation culture than we do over here. While even the best Western animations here are usually PG or under (even something dark and complex like Coraline is in essence a kid's film), Japanese animation tends to have a far greater variety of material for all ages. Its a shame that doesn't carry over here (and Family Guy, South Park et al don't count :pac:).
Can't wait to see Ponyo on the Cliff. Going to be tempting to pick up the Japanese DVD when I'm over there, but the whole not speaking Japanese thing is a minor problem
I think its meant to get an August release here though - hopefully. 0 -
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I really liked Dragon Ball as a kid, though Dragon Ball Z got a bit shlocky and Dragon Ball GT was bloody awful. I can't find anything much of it on Youtube in English, but then again the English dub was appalling anyway, so here's the opening sequence with the Spanish theme tune, hilariously rubbish that it is:
(Yeah, I know, it's a series not a film, but while there have been a bunch of feature-length Dragon Ball films they've all been ****e, and the series is a great fantasy adventure saga that, if you only watch the Kid Goku stuff that ends after about 150 episodes, has a great overall story and is lots of fun).
(An interesting thing about the Spanish dub amongst others is that it lacks the censorship applied to the English-language ones; there are a few gags in the series that are based on non-sexual nudity which were addressed by really poorly edited-in objects that conveniently block the offending organs. It's a shame, really, because some really funny scenes are neutered by the crappy editing job).
Another one that's good but by no means great is Ninja Scroll (although there's an unpleasant undertone of misogyny to it, and the romantic subplot is a bit rubbish to boot):
Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie is great, and I'd argue the best adaptation of a videogame to film I've seen. The soundtrack is good, the animation is great, the storyline is decent, the characters are fleshed out neatly, and in fact everything about it is decent except for the gratuitous fanservice scene where Chun Li's tits are on display. (As far as I know this is no longer present in the DVD version).
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I like the new shiny sparkly anime, but I prefer the older classics. Here's my list of awesome classic anime:
I'll start off with the intro to the old manga VHS'. Anyone remember this?
Now I know somebody has already posted a ninja scroll link, but seriously, check out this fan made trailer it's fcuking AWESOME!! And it's also an awesome anime!
Cyber City Oedo 808 is another great anime. It has great futuristic but 80s style neo-tokyo animation similar to Akira. Here's a cool fight scene from episode 2:
Wicked City, pretty good 80s psy-horror from the guy who did Ninja Scroll. Contains one scene of tentacle blowjob.
Odin, another "futuristic" but extremely 80s sci-fi space fantasy. This scene isn't home made, it's actually in the movie! 80s-tastic.
Fist of the North Star. What an awesome post apocalyptic anime, just for the exploding head punch. Kenshiro just punches people, and their brains explode out the top of their heads. Some cool fight scenes. Kind of crappy 80s animation though. And Rei is cool anime character, who can slice people into cubes by just waving his hands around. Here's a zany japanese trailer for it:
Blackjack is another great anime:
And the original Appleseed anime from 1988:
Agus Battle Angel Alita. Has some cool animation and characters. I think James Cameron is making a live action movie of this soon.
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I like the new shiny sparkly anime, but I prefer the older classics. Here's my list of awesome classic anime:
Tbh man, a lot of that stuff is exactly what I dislike in Anime. When I was 14 or 15 I thought it was cool, but now the low brown sleaze and juvenile OTT action just doesn't interest me at all. It's 'mature' in exactly the wrong way.
I'd be far more interested in the epic Sci-fi or Fantasy films, those with a lot of imagination, or the more dramatic films such as Grave of the Fireflies. I think Perfect Blue is a great example of how Anime can be mature (and Darren Aronofsky is a big fan too), it's a very dark and disturbing psychological thriller:
Though, speaking of older, classic Anime titles, you gotta love Lupin the Third: Castle of Cagliostro.0 -
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Latest one I watched was Sword of the Stranger. Was excellent (at the time, I think it was about 6am and I was suffering from sleep withdrawal, so maybe it wasn't as good as I thought, but still worth a watch)
Would have posted an english version trailer but MY GOD is the narrative overlay/whatever annoying. So here's the (whatever it may be so I don't embarass myself further) language.
EDIT! Had to fix the youtube link, and also add that the music in the film is spectacular 0 -
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I like the new shiny sparkly anime, but I prefer the older classics. Here's my list of awesome classic anime:
I'll start off with the intro to the old manga VHS'. Anyone remember this?
Kicks major ass to be able to randomly play this on a guitar and watching the confused look on peoples faces as they try to remember what it is :P0 -
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Karl Hungus wrote: »You think? I don't know, I'd say when people think of Anime, it's the likes of Akira, Ghost in the Shell and so on that would be most well known, and I'd say mostly anyone with a passing love of film would at least be aware of the works of Miyazaki. Spirited Away did indeed win an Oscar. I'd say the only negativity I've seen towards Anime was when trying to watch something at a friend's house, one of the lads kept asking derisively "Where's Pikachu?" which was really irritating.
Well, what I meant was by people who have not watched any. And maybe that's just people my age: I am so very very old.
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I'm quite fond of these animes, dont think they have got a mention yet.
Vampire Hunter D
Hellsing
Elfen lied
EDIT: Grrrrr, can someone be so kind and PM how to get these bloody youtube scipts to work please? They always show up blank when i post em
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Stumbled across urotsokidoji in the cartoon section in Cavan Xtravision a few years back! Hilarious at the time, but looking back I should have bought it so I could put it on and creep the **** out of peopleTheIrishGrover wrote: »
Heh, the explosion of manga & anime in Spain happened in a similar way to over here - loads of stuff came out and as cartoons there were a lot of people who assumed it was for kids. Which, for example, meant that at least one video shop had the likes of Urotsokidoji on the same shelves as Doraemon.
That being said, in the UK these days it's even worse - there have been repeated statements from the police about wanting to "ban manga" because they haven't understood that manga != hentai.
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EDIT: Grrrrr, can someone be so kind and PM how to get these bloody youtube scipts to work please? They always show up blank when i post em
You're putting in the full url between then youtube tags when you're only meant to put the code for the video itself. So lets say you want to post this as a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AguqhItuPsk
You take the bit at the end (AguqhItuPsk) and put that between the tags like this:
[youtube]AguqhItuPsk[/youtube]
And that becomes:That being said, in the UK these days it's even worse - there have been repeated statements from the police about wanting to "ban manga" because they haven't understood that manga != hentai.
Really? Got any links, I'd be interested in reading about this.0 -
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Karl - there are a few pieces here although unfortunately one of the problems is that there has been comparatively little discussion of it in the mainstream press. There are some details here, here (Telegraph.co.uk), and here (TheRegister.co.uk).
The most worrying part is this (from this piece on independent.co.uk):
Jenny Willott, the Liberal Democrat MP for Cardiff, is one of the few MPs who has spoken out against the Bill. “The problem I have is that the definition of what constitutes and image and a child is incredibly broad,” she said. “The Government considers almost anything to be an image, from a painting to a private scribble on a piece of paper. At the same time they have defined a child as something that looks like a child even if it isn't.”
The Ministry of Justice has denied suggestions that Britain's comic industry would suffer from the law. A spokesperson said: "The clauses in the Bill are to tackle pornographic and obscene images of child sexual abuse which have no place in our society. It is not our intention to criminalise the possession of material that does not fall foul of the Obscene Publications Act or to criminalise the legal entertainment industry, the art industry or pornographic cartoons.”Stumbled across urotsokidoji in the cartoon section in Cavan Xtravision a few years back! Hilarious at the time, but looking back I should have bought it so I could put it on and creep the **** out of people
It's funny in how terrible it is, but I wouldn't want to own it, much less pay money for it. It's basically a 4-film series with tentacle rape and ultraviolence as its themes.0 -
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TheIrishGrover wrote: »Bit of a Ghibli nut meself but I do enjoy other studios like Production I.G. and Madhouse. I think my favourite Ghibli would have to be Totoro followed by Porco Rosso (Start flame war now.....). My favourite non-ghibli anime would currently be The Girl Who Leapt Through time and my favourite animated film would HAVE to be The Iron Giant. (pleasepleaseplease rerelease it WB to the cinema for the 10th anniversary and to cash in on the (hopeful) renewed interest in hand animation with The Frog Princess).
I'm actually in Japan now and off to the Ghibli Museum in the morning. Woohoo!!!
Waiting for my passport to arrive so I can book this myself! Better be good considering the application process
The Girl Who Leapt Through Time is great alright - thought it was a little light, but still a different and emotional take on the time travel genre.
Definitely agree on the ultraviolence giving the industry a bad name. The cut of Overfiend I watched was one of the worst things I have ever seen - it may have just been the pointlessly obscene Manga dub, or the ridiclulously complex plot (just an excuse for more tentacle business) but it was an extremely weak film, just aimed to shock. I've heard people say the original Japanese cut is far superior, but the existing Western cut is dreadful.
Also Pom Poko - the most underviewed of all Ghibli. I do think of all their films Totoro is their masterpiece - one of the few films I'd consider totally perfect. Spirited Away comes very close though.0 -
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I'm actually in Japan now and off to the Ghibli Museum in the morning. Woohoo!!!
Is the Totoro Zoetrope not just about the most amazing thing you have ever seen? I stayed there watching for hours and would have stayed longer if it wasn't closing. Totoro is probably my vote for best Anime movie. Hell it would be close to been my favorite film of all time.
Cheers for this, I've been looking for this for ages on the net. I used to watch it, rewind and watch it again. Bit sad really...Originally Posted by Overblood
I like the new shiny sparkly anime, but I prefer the older classics. Here's my list of awesome classic anime:
I'll start off with the intro to the old manga VHS'. Anyone remember this?
Speaking of which what other teen manga fans had this just because you heard it was racy:
but it was a bit crap.0 -
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To be fair though, if Overblood enjoys that kind of thing, then fair enough. There's certainly plenty of ultra violent genre, and even then it does have it's good moments (Ninja Scroll).
And too right, action can be extremely good in Anime.
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those guys with mobiles for heads taking pictures up girls skirts in Paprika where also weird (what am I thinking, that whole marching parade was weird!)
Aye, but that's more so a commentary on certain aspects of modern Japanese culture rather than anything seedy on the part of the film, as in people taking pics up girls skirts does actually happen there.0 -
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I'll check out Wicked City if it's from the same team as Ninja Scroll, though.
Funnily enough, they're making a remake of Wicked City. I can't imagine how that's going to pan out. I would say that for the whole action/horror bordering-on-Hentai kinda thing, it's definitely one of the better films, but it's nowhere in the same league as the director's other films, such as Ninja Scroll and Vampire Hunter
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uncleoswald wrote: »Is the Totoro Zoetrope not just about the most amazing thing you have ever seen? I stayed there watching for hours and would have stayed longer if it wasn't closing. Totoro is probably my vote for best Anime movie. Hell it would be close to been my favorite film of all time.
I know. It's absolutely stunning, isn't it? Wouldn't want to be an epileptic in that first room though, would ya? I was there last year and the Ghibli Museum is one of the main reasons I went back there as I didn't buy enough........ Made up for it today though The display room was full of Ponyo stuff this time and I got the Ponyo storyboard book (Along with Totoro, Porco and Spirited Away). The complete storyboard drawings for each. (Not gonna read Pnyo till I see it obviously)
And Johnny Ultimate: It is. I had a pain in my face coming out of it both times from smiling like an eejit in there. I dare ANYBODY not to burst out laughing at the Nekkobus with all the kids crawling over it.0 -
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All I can say to the Cowboy Bebop movie is BLAH!Karl Hungus wrote: »To be fair though, if Overblood enjoys that kind of thing, then fair enough. There's certainly plenty of ultra violent genre, and even then it does have it's good moments (Ninja Scroll).
And too right, action can be extremely good in Anime.
It ruined everything about the way the anime ended for me.0 -
Karl Hungus wrote: »
Have you seen this?
Have it on DVD myself, but haven't got a chance to watch it yet.
i liked it but i wanna read the comic book and THEN watch it again as i think it would tie things together.
grave of the fireflies would probably be in my top five films of all time.
Elfen lied - oh god, i was obsessed with that, i remember the weekend i found it i watched it none stop until i was finished with the series.
Mahou Sensei Negima - cheestastic
Ouran High School Host Club- made me laugh alot.
theres another show i watched that i'm trying to remember the name of. it was like this guy in a school club that spent alot of his inner monolog breaking the fourth wall. there was this weird girl that every time she'd get upset she'd nearly destroy the world in another dimension. then there was a time traveller girl too that the main character drooled over. ok, its bothering me that i can't remember. can someone help me out?0 -
Karl Hungus wrote: »Funnily enough, they're making a remake of Wicked City. I can't imagine how that's going to pan out. I would say that for the whole action/horror bordering-on-Hentai kinda thing, it's definitely one of the better films, but it's nowhere in the same league as the director's other films, such as Ninja Scroll and Vampire Hunter Bloodlust.
And Highlander.
By the way, there's a live action version of Wicked City. There are a few bits of it on youtube. Looks absolutely dire.0 -
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I bought this movie yesterday in tower paired with hard boiled for a total of 30 bucks, i had never even seen it before and was surpised it snuck out under my nose.
Its the most visually stunning animation ive ever seen, story wasnt amazing and i think they could have added alot more to it but i was blown away at how good it looked. The only thing i thought was pretty weak was the flying machines, they just didnt gel well with the rest of the animation.0 -
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