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Mental/anxious when hungover?

  • 17-05-2009 9:20pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭


    I dunno if its just me, it possibly is, but does anyone else go a bit insane when they are hungover? Like I'm hungover at the minute, and not only am I very anxious about everything, as far as I am unsure of my own identity? Like I don't feel like myself at all, like a depersonalisation experience or something. Does this happen to anyone else?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Fionn23


    yo it's called the dt's. i know some people who love it, it's when they are at their happiest.

    me i usually don't feel right until tuesday!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    sounds like you shouldn't be drinking excessively if it makes you feel like this. I generally just feel tired / sick. have you used cannabis in the past (sorry just asking)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭zero_nine


    Fionn23 wrote: »
    yo it's called the dt's. i know some people who love it, it's when they are at their happiest.

    me i usually don't feel right until tuesday!
    Love it? Jeez how do they do that? LOL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Alcohol is a depressant after all.
    It's especially true with blackouts. Even if you acted like a saint the night before, if you can't remember you play scenarios in your head even if they never happened!

    But hungover at 22:20, not I wouldn't say that's common.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Yeah if your smoking weed and this happens to you you need to stop smoking weed.

    Your chances of developing schizophrenia in your early/mid twenties are massively increased if you report those symptoms and continue to smoke weed heavily. The hangover might be the extra little needed to trigger your symptoms, its the smoke that needs to be stopped.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Paulj


    ya i get this sometimes after a heavy session. Not sure how anyone could love it!? ... its an awful feeling tbh. DT's stands for Delirium Tremens i think. Have a read of it on wikipedia. The worst part is a feeling of irregular heartbeat - or maybe its just that i notice my heart beating more than usual. This can be helped by drinking something with sugar (like lucozade) and eating apparently.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭petethebrick


    Yeah, get it fairly bad. Especially if I've been out a few night nights on the trot. If you're gonna have big nights out you just have to deal with it though. I usually try a combination of pizza and conedy films to get me through it. Or else hang out with your friends for a while. Don't be sitting in your room alone!

    It's not Delirium Tremens by the way. That's what you get if you've been seriously abusing alcohol and then go without it. What you describe is what most people call 'the horrors'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭RossFixxxed


    Yeah I've had 'the fear' from a hangover many times. When you think about your body it makes a bit of sense. It is in panic mode itself (depending on the amount of drink). You are dehydrated, your liver is working overtime, your blood sugar drops off the chart.

    It's another symptom of drinking too much. There are 2 cures for hangovers:
    Drinking less/nothing.
    Death.

    R


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭rustynutz


    I get this a lot too,especially as I get older(31),actually the whole hangover is a lot worse than when I was younger.I can see now why ppl ease of the beer as they hit their thirties!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭Jack Sheehan


    Happens to me only in the very worst hangovers, but yes, it happens. A dizziness and insecurity. It's unnerving alright.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 185 ✭✭dblennon


    Yea Sounds like the "fear" alright I get it when I mess up my sleeping clock by staying out past 5am 2 nights in a row,

    My body dosen't know which way is up, come 10pm on a sunday!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭Tobias Greeshman


    Yep, it's not called "the fear" for nothing, had a bad dose of it yesterday and still not the better of it today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    Yeah I get that as well, mainly after wine though. I could wake up some mornings and start having some mad thoughts about life and stuff in general while I'm trying to get my head sorted out. Suppose its just your brain giving a small bit of mental payback or keeping it awake all night :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Sounds like you're drinking waaaaaay too much.....

    A few drinks to wind/down is fine, but what you've described sounds like a serious problem to me. It sounds like you'd be OK with the hangovers if you didn't have this "extra" side-effect.

    But the hangovers themselves are a side-effect.

    Everyone gets the odd hangover, but if it's frequent enough to warrant posting about on the internet, then that would set off alarm bells for me.

    Get help / counselling. Best of luck!


  • Subscribers Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭conzy


    Had this for most of Sunday after a big session Saturday night... Combined with exam stress I felt pretty terrible all day.. Its strange, felt anxious, insecure, worried about things that wouldn't usually phase me etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 3rdman


    Yeah, I was in the grips of the horrors until about 4 today. Really ****ed up my day. It really makes a day at work tough. 'What's the point?' is always my overriding thought during it. Anyway, I've gotten through it and I'm back smiling again :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭tinner777


    welcome to the horrors mate, first thing i normally do is check the phone and text a few mates to see if my anxieties have any basis, ie were you a very naughty boy??? Once youve the all clear, lucozade and a walk. then its opening time, hardcore :eek:, or time for something to eat. Move on...
    Just a little note, it gets worse as you grow older, or it has with me and my mates. i do wonder if its worth it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    3rdman wrote: »
    It really makes a day at work tough.

    Not to mention irresponsible and probably against company regulations and H&S rules....

    Anxiety due to drinking way too much is one thing; add in the possibility of getting fired and the associated extra stress and you'll have one MAJOR headache!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    i get this every single time i drink, i cant be alone i have to call over to one of my mates because i cant relax! its horrible ill be up real early in the morning with it and ill be fretting and feeling guilty even if i havent done anything! And if i have done something its so much worse i feel like its the end of my life as i know it!! So melodramatic but when your in the grip of the "fear" thats they way you think, but it should pass after a day and a goodnights sleep the following night! I get a sinking feeling in my stomach aswell and totally fret over how i came accross to people was i loud, annoying, falling on people driving people nuts ect and get really paranoid!!!

    so your not alone!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Yipee I am normal... Really thought I was the only one afraid to be seen in town the next day after i night out in case I met somebody who saw me misbehave...Paranoid once after thinking I was sick in somebody's house...So Mortified, It wasn't me at all, it was the guy who owned the house...In my paranoid state, I had text him to apologise for getting so drunk...So paranoid, then extremely embarrassed...Not worth it, and the feeling of impending doom that goes along with it!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,313 ✭✭✭fabbydabby


    Man I could write a book about The Fear. You have described the symptoms perfectly. I am 26 now and get it pretty bad so I have pretty much knocked the booze on the head for a while. Shame cause I really enjoyed getting pissed. Ah the days of youth when a hangover would only last 5 hours.... :)

    I find certain drinks make it worse...red bull and buckfast in particular. To minimise its effects, eat beofre you go out, drink plenty of water and stay in bed asleep for as long as you can the next day.

    And I don't recommend coffee or cafine the next day (lucozade??) as it wires you up even more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Caoimhín


    You dont have the DT's, if you did then you would be unable to type. It is actually a very dangerous condition which, if not treated properly, can cause seizures and even death.

    You just have the heeby jeebys. More food, less drink on a night out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I thought it was just me this happened to also. It's such an awful feeling. I get panicky and feel like I'm about to lose it or something. I started a terrible habit of making sure that I have a drink in the evening before I go to bed after being hungover all day so I kinda just sleep the minute my head hits the pillow. Thing is I start to feel like I'm getting back to normal after a drink so I may have another and then the following day I'm back to square 1 again. I don't do this all the time but sometimes I feel its the only way of making myself feel somewhat normal. I also get irrational thoughts and fears that logically I know they aren't going to happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Caoimhín


    I thought it was just me this happened to also. It's such an awful feeling. I get panicky and feel like I'm about to lose it or something. I started a terrible habit of making sure that I have a drink in the evening before I go to bed after being hungover all day so I kinda just sleep the minute my head hits the pillow. Thing is I start to feel like I'm getting back to normal after a drink so I may have another and then the following day I'm back to square 1 again. I don't do this all the time but sometimes I feel its the only way of making myself feel somewhat normal. I also get irrational thoughts and fears that logically I know they aren't going to happen.

    Jaysus, dont drink more.
    Get a little exercise, eat and lots of rest and you will be fine after 48 hours.
    How much do you drink in a week and for how long have you been doing this? If you do drink a lot maybe you shoul tell your doctor what is happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Noffles


    THE HORRORS.... Oh Jesus, I've been getting these for years and as pointed out they get worse as the years go by... I'm 40 this year and they are simply disabling when they arrive... to be honest though they aren't as bad lately although there may be another reason for that but when they do arrive and it's usually a Sunday, it's game over I have to go out and speak to people and mingle with people... stay in and I'm borderline suicidal!!

    You just have to deal with them, but the company of friends and being occupied will cure them or make you forget them... and maybe a sly couple of pints to finish the day and you'll wonder what you were worrying about!

    And the other reason I may not be getting them as bad is the fact that I'm in a sort of therapy situation and that simply works wonders =)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Man - I know that feelin too well unfortunately.
    One time i was alone in my apartment and i had to leave and go over to my sisters as i had it so bad.
    Had to sleep in her room and everything.
    I even made her drive me to the hospital - but i didn't bother going in in teh end when we got there.

    It normally happens when i drink lots of wine as opposed to beer.

    I had a couple of other particularly bad experiences.
    In absolute mental horrors.

    Start thinking of all sorts of stuff.

    I now watch how much wine i drink and try not to do the dog on it.

    I find if i stick to guinness i can handle it better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    It doesn't matter what the drink is - if I get really hammered, I will have the fear the next day. I'm 33 now and I have noticed its a lot worse than it was a few years ago. I feel really horrible and actually hate myself when in the grip - I hate myself for being the person I was the night before. I start thinking about all the things I have to worry about and feel so bad I just can't relax.

    I try not to get in that state too often as it will take its toll eventually I am sure. Actually I never choose to do it - but sometimes when I am drinking the sense goes out the door and I overdo it.

    When it does happen I take Kalms herbal tablets - they are for times of anxiety and stress, and they usually help to calm me down enough so that I can actually sleep or just feel better - these hangovers have me awake at 8am with palpitations even if I went to bed at 5.

    Stupid eh!! But I enjoy my social life too much to stop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Very Interesting thread. I've started to get these in the last 2 years. Horrible horrible feeling. I get awful dark thoughts like something bad is going to happen: I'll get run over, or crash or other crazy stuff... I had a major incident on a lads weekend away last year after 3 nights on the piss, I had a full blown panic attack for the first time in my life. It was terrifying, had awful black thoughts, thought I was f*cked. Had to call my sister back in Ireland and get her to calm me down, took half an hour. I've been more careful since then.

    Isn't it mad that we ourselves through this mental turmoil to have a good time. It's all very Irish. As a nation we need to cop the **** on when it comes to drink.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    It doesn't matter what the drink is - if I get really hammered, I will have the fear the next day.

    Then don't get hammered. You can drink and have fun without getting hammered, y'know......
    I feel really horrible and actually hate myself when in the grip - I hate myself for being the person I was the night before.

    :
    :

    But I enjoy my social life too much to stop.

    If that's true (and it's not self-delusion) then what's to hate about yourself the night before ? Only quoting your own words to you.

    Basically, there's an easy answer to ALL your problems - drink less.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 170 ✭✭Wuggectumondo


    Wow, great to hear that I'm not alone!!!

    I felt like the only person who gets an overly depressive reaction to drink


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Ok, you guys are aware that alcohol is a depressant right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,541 ✭✭✭Heisenberg.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭JuJuBean


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    Then don't get hammered. You can drink and have fun without getting hammered, y'know......



    If that's true (and it's not self-delusion) then what's to hate about yourself the night before ? Only quoting your own words to you.

    Basically, there's an easy answer to ALL your problems - drink less.

    I think this person is saying that her thoughts are irrational when she is in this state and she knows that she is not hateful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Noffles


    Scien wrote: »
    The fear is quite common among binge drinkers.
    The main reason is due to decreased serotonin levels in the body.

    Sunday evenings and Mondays are horrible for me, i call it Post Session Depression (PSD).
    After some trial & error i found that the best cure is activity & vitamin C.
    Go for a long walk, get some fresh air and pump the vitamin C into you; Oranges, Pineapples, smoothies, juices etc.

    Thankfully PSD is temporary so by friday you'll be ready to repeat the cycle.:)

    Think I'll be taking this advice today, have an awful dose of the "horrors" today!

    Can't bl**dy think straight!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Misery loves company!

    In an ideal world having somone to spend the day with when you are in the horrors is the key to staying sane and pulling yourself out of it.

    However we don't all live in an ideal world and as I have gotten a bit older (29) I can't handle being in that state alone.

    I lead a healthy lifestyle now but I remember clearly how I used to curl up in a ball and rock myself back & forth and sleep with the light on and leave my door open all to distract me from my own mental thoughts.

    Here's a hug for you for the next time you feel like this *hugs OP*


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭Garthicus


    Ahh bless. You have 'the fear'. Man, I hate it... I get it all the time. My mum could call me and I won't answer the phone... "what does she want?? What did I do?????" runs through my head. I hear a car door close outside and I jump out of my skin. I need to call all of my friends for reassurance. My mate Niall and I call each other and say over the phone "you're a good person" lol!!! it will pass.... it's awful, but it will pass....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,494 ✭✭✭ronbyrne2005


    A few curer pints spread over several hours is only cure for me from these symptoms, but dont get into another night of boozing. They reckon the horrors contributes to a lot of suicide in young people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    OP, you're not alone even though for a long time I thought this only happened to me.

    I don't drink that often now that I am in my thirties but if I have a few drinks, for the next two days I am extremely anxious. Did I do anything last night? Was I loud? Did I say the wrong thing to someone? I go over and over things in my head, trying to think back on every minute of the previous night. It's now got to a stage where I send a text to myself before I go to bed reminding myself that I didn't do anything tonight! Crazy.

    I like a few sociable drinks now and then but at this stage, is it worth it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Yea. It has many names.... The Fear, The Dreds, The Heebee geebees, The Horrors, The creeps. Its pertty much all the same thing. I have it right now.

    I get it so bad that sometimes i'm not sure if I'll make it through the day. becareful my friend its a killer. I've very nearly taken my own life due to the Horrors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Im in college away from home and the day after a session, all I want to do is go back home to my family, because of how bad I feel. As the last poster has said, i'm beginning to wonder if its really worth it for the sake of a few drinks to feel that badly the next day.

    I find the only cure to this is to go to the gym and eat a bit of comfort food after.

    It might be a little off topic, but along with these feelings when drink is involved either the night itself or the next day, I find myself thinking a lot about my ex. Anyone else do the same?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Caoimhín


    Jusus lads, if you found that you got a headache after you bounced your head off a wall, you would surely stop banging your head?


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