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Uniforms during exams

  • 17-05-2009 5:33pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭


    Anybody else being forced to wear their uniforms during the LC? I thought the exams were nothing to do with the school, but my principal is adamant that if you don't wear the uniform you can't do the exam. Personally, my uniform is very uncomfortable, tight and too warm.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Sophsxxx


    Yep!! We have to...it's a pile of ****e. Wen we were doing the JC, my principle tried 2 stop my mate and I from doin our exams bcuz we weren't wearing our stuffy, horrible uniforms during the only nice week we had in 2007!!:mad: So, I'm not going to even try and get away with it this year...not worth the hassle!!:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,169 ✭✭✭ironictoaster


    Pfft, our principal says the same thing but, every year nobody wears their uniform. He can't stop everyone from doing the leaving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    creggy wrote: »
    Pfft, our principal says the same thing but, every year nobody wears their uniform. He can't stop everyone from doing the leaving.

    I'd love to do that but everybody in my school are very straight laced "Oh no, the principal said we can't so we can't" types.
    Sometimes it's so hard to be a rebel.

    But seriously, my uniform is so awful. Also there's a MASSIVE rip in the skirt. I'm sick of stitching it, and I am not paying 60 euro for a new one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    One thing my seems to get completely right, not even trying to make us wear it.

    I did the sitting outside the centre thing a while back and no students were wearing uniform, so I'd imagine that hasnt changed.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Usually, candidates will wear the uniform on at least the first day. This is to make things easier for superintendents, primarily in large centres, but also where there are external candidates.

    You can arrange to sit your exam elsewhere if you do not like the requirements of your school. They are obliging the Commission by allowing you to sit your exam in their premises.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭timmywex


    We're made to wear our uniforms aswell, and tbh its a rule i agree with, it gives me a sense of school and study, plus i get to rip the shirt open at the end!

    Our principal has stopped people on the corridor and lectured them on their uniform before(i dont want that 15 mins before english!)! And i know for a fact that he didnt last year to about 3 or 4 studets and others told him he should have enforced the rule!

    He gave some reason why he can do it aswell! Basically the rooms are being rented but school rules still apply or some bull like that.


  • Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Are people serious? Giving out about having to wear their uniforms during exams? That's just ridiculous. I wish people would stop looking for trivial reasons to "rebel" against the norm: must be some sort of petty teenage thing.

    Oh, and by the way: It's up to the principal to let you sit your exams in the school: if you don't wear your uniform he/she has every right to not let you enter the exam hall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭eVeNtInE


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Are people serious? Giving out about having to wear their uniforms during exams? That's just ridiculous. I wish people would stop looking for trivial reasons to "rebel" against the norm: must be some sort of petty teenage thing.

    Oh, and by the way: It's up to the principal to let you sit your exams in the school: if you don't wear your uniform he/she has every right to not let you enter the exam hall.

    My uniform is uncomfortable, too warm and to be quite frank after a year of work and lack of exercise, too tight. I would by no means go "F**k you school, I'm wearing a tshirt" and risk getting chucked out of my exams, but I don't understand why I can't wear what I would feel most comfortable and relaxed in. How is that a "Petty teenage thing"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭QueenOfLeon


    Aw, that sucks if you have to wear it, we're the only school around here that doesnt have to! In the assembly before the junior cert, our principal was like "O dont be wearing those uniforms during the exams, for gods sake you have to be as comfortable and relaxed in such a stressful time!!" :D
    She who freaks out when someone has the wrong coloured shoes or has buttons missing on their shirt :p


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  • Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    eVeNtInE wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Yes, perhaps it is. But, if a principal requests that all students wear their uniforms, and one doesn't, he has every right to not allow that student to sit the exam in "his/her" school.
    Sure, it's a bit petty that people decide to not wear a uniform even though they were asked to but in fairness I can think of no reason for people to have to wear them while sitting the exams and I can think of a few reasons why people shouldn't have to (stuffiness etc. can be distracting, which is not helpful during an exam).

    I know, I agree: I know I'm not going to wear mine after the first few days (I didn't last year); but, I don't see the point of starting a thread to give out about it.
    phasers wrote: »
    My uniform is uncomfortable, too warm and to be quite frank after a year of work and lack of exercise, too tight. I would by no means go "F**k you school, I'm wearing a tshirt" and risk getting chucked out of my exams, but I don't understand why I can't wear what I would feel most comfortable and relaxed in. How is that a "Petty teenage thing"?

    I suppose it's just the principal excercising their power over his/her students. But still, I doubt it being "uncomfortable, too warm... and too tight" is as bad as you imply, so what? It's a bit tight and uncomfortable: that's not the end of the world.
    Mr.S wrote: »
    Your not in school anymore, you've graduated. Theres no reason for the uniform.

    You are in school; where are you doing your exams? School.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭eVeNtInE


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭unknown13


    Sophsxxx wrote: »
    Yep!! We have to...it's a pile of ****e. Wen we were doing the JC, my principle tried 2 stop my mate and I from doin our exams bcuz we weren't wearing our stuffy, horrible uniforms during the only nice week we had in 2007!!:mad: So, I'm not going to even try and get away with it this year...not worth the hassle!!:rolleyes:

    We had it bad in 2007 for the JC because one of the weeks was roosting and the summer was horrible.

    In my school the people sitting the JC have to wear uniform but LC don't because they graduated and are technically not students in the school.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    I suppose it's just the principal excercising their power over his/her students. But still, I doubt it being "uncomfortable, too warm... and too tight" is as bad as you imply, so what? It's a bit tight and uncomfortable: that's not the end of the world.

    I never claimed it to be, I would simply prefer to wear my own clothes and see no reason for the uniform to be worn.

    ..Not every thread has to be about an earth shattering event, this forum is for discussing the leaving cert exams. For me, this is an (albeit indirect) element of the exams, and I wanted to see if the uniform thing was implemented in other schools.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭p1akuw47h5r3it


    Aw, that sucks if you have to wear it, we're the only school around here that doesnt have to! In the assembly before the junior cert, our principal was like "O dont be wearing those uniforms during the exams, for gods sake you have to be as comfortable and relaxed in such a stressful time!!" :D
    She who freaks out when someone has the wrong coloured shoes or has buttons missing on their shirt :p

    Jeez he she is real sound... We had to wear ours during the JC but not this time (thank God)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Fringe


    Man, we have to wear our uniforms next week if we're going to school even though we've graduated. The previous years all wore their own clothes. I heard that it has something to do with one of the teachers who's doing a PhD and one of the things they're researching is the effects of uniforms.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Mr.S wrote: »
    How is it easier?

    It's easier for superintendents (who generally do not teach in the school they're assigned to) to spot outsiders. It's mainly an issue where there are external candidates and 'school' candidates in the one large centre. As I said, one day is usually enough for most superintendents to learn the faces in their centre.

    The SEC have no specific exam dress code, but if the exam is being held in a school, then the school's rules have precedence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭eVeNtInE


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭OneArt


    I guess that's one of the few things I actually like about my school is that we don't have to wear it.

    You know, I don't really see why schools couldn't just make a uniform that is comfortable to wear?

    Anyways I've two more days and this won't apply to me ever again :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    eVeNtInE wrote: »
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    Outside candidates bring passports or similar for ID on the day, while school students are usually identified by the school exam secretary. It's just to make things easier on the day. If you're supervising and you know the only ones you need to closely check before starting are the ones not in uniform, it just makes things quicker.

    I see no reason why from the second day on, candidates couldn't wear more comfortable clothing, but I'm not a school principal, so it's not up to me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    spurious wrote: »
    Outside candidates bring passports or similar for ID on the day, while school students are usually identified by the school exam secretary. It's just to make things easier on the day. If you're supervising and you know the only ones you need to closely check before starting are the ones not in uniform, it just makes things quicker.

    I see no reason why from the second day on, candidates couldn't wear more comfortable clothing, but I'm not a school principal, so it's not up to me.

    Thanks for making things clearer spurious, it kind of helps to know that there's a reason to it and they're not just being spiteful (:P)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭Gloom


    We have to wear our uniforms this year.

    I remember last year during my History exam. I was crapping bricks I was so scared. Plus to make matters worse, the sun was shining that day and of course, it was shining onto my desk and it was roasting!

    Our uniform is black jumper/grey shirt/grey pants and I was wearing a t-shirt under my shirt so I was on fire. It sucked so much, I couldn't concentrate at all. The stuffiness was unbearable.

    This time, I think I'm the only one in my "room" doing history so I must grab a good seat. Haha.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    We don't have to wear uniforms, but there's usually one or two who do cos it keeps them in exam mode. I do all my study in pyjama bottoms and a hoody, so I'll be doing the exams in trackie bottoms and a hoodie (tracksuit bottoms being the closest to pyjamas my mother will let me out of the house with)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,590 ✭✭✭Pigwidgeon


    We've to wear our uniforms and we're not allowed to leave the exams early in our school, it sucks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭bythewoods


    I don't think we're wearing uniforms, and I'd really rather if we were tbh.

    That way I wouldn't have to actually think about what I'm gonna wear tbh! I'm not a tracksuit-y kind of dresser, ever, I'm more of a dresses &funky clothes of some description kinda person. So effort of planning ahead :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭Isaac702


    I find this whole conversation totally ridiculous.

    The department requests to have access to run the exams in the school. The school then invites the students in that school to do their exams there. They can put conditions (school rules) on that invite if they wish. If you have problems with that you can request to do your exams at a different center.

    Also regardless what some people have said above you do still represent the school you go/went to. That is not something that just disappears just because you no longer have formal classes. Regardless if you want to or not you will still be a symbol of that school for years to come.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    bythewoods wrote: »
    I don't think we're wearing uniforms, and I'd really rather if we were tbh.

    That way I wouldn't have to actually think about what I'm gonna wear tbh! I'm not a tracksuit-y kind of dresser, ever, I'm more of a dresses &funky clothes of some description kinda person. So effort of planning ahead :P

    As am I, I only ever venture outdoors in trackies if I'm going to the shop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭bythewoods


    Piste wrote: »
    As am I, I only ever venture outdoors in trackies if I'm going to the shop.

    I like, own 2 pairs, which I only ever wear when i'm going walking/ jogging and crap like that. And they're just disgusting.

    I think uniforms during the exams is the best idea! Stops a lot of distraction really, and I think they're fairly comfortable.
    Plus, some boys just look way hotter in their own clothes. And I'm in an exam centre with all boys. Phew, it's going to be way too hot :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    bythewoods wrote: »
    And I'm in an exam centre with all boys.


    So am I :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭OneArt


    I wonder how people who can only study/do exams better in their uniforms will survive in college?

    Then maybe its just an indication of whether or not one is ready for an independent learning environment? :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,974 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    kateos2 wrote: »
    we're not allowed to leave the exams early in our school, it sucks!

    I can't see the SEC being happy with that tbh, why the hell aren't you allow leave early?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭eVeNtInE


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭bythewoods


    Fad wrote: »
    So am I :eek:

    *fans self*

    Oh come on though, imagine being the only chap/ one of the only chaps in a room where it's swelteringly hot and there's slutty girls as far as the eye can see, slowly removing their clothes as it gets warmer.

    Just **** off, I'd rather they had their uniforms on :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    bythewoods wrote: »
    I don't think we're wearing uniforms, and I'd really rather if we were tbh.

    That way I wouldn't have to actually think about what I'm gonna wear tbh! I'm not a tracksuit-y kind of dresser, ever, I'm more of a dresses &funky clothes of some description kinda person. So effort of planning ahead :P

    so am I, but I don't plan I just throw on anything!

    We have to wear our uniform, I'd much rather wear my own clothes though. our skirt is so freakin uncomfortable!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    A couple of people seem to be getting offended by this discussion... I just don't understand what is so "ridiculous" about wanting to be comfortable during exams?


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    You should wear it to avoid any stress/negativity during your exams. However, I presume the Examinations Superintendent (if they were a nice person) would be able to overrule your school Principal, if he/she were to demand you wear your uniform! My former Principal was really strict with regards wearing our uniform, but during the exams gave us a choice! You think they'd all be like that just to avoid stupid situations!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,590 ✭✭✭Pigwidgeon


    I can't see the SEC being happy with that tbh, why the hell aren't you allow leave early?

    i don't know, apparently we're allowed leave the center but not the school. they try to discourage us leaving.

    we also got a letter today saying that "as a special concession you may wear a white aertex t shirt without a tie for the exams, although the rest of the uniform must be worn"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,974 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    kateos2 wrote: »
    i don't know, apparently we're allowed leave the center but not the school. they try to discourage us leaving.

    Just leave, they won't be able to stop you sitting the rest of your exams nor can they really say anything to you.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭bythewoods


    so am I, but I don't plan I just throw on anything!

    We have to wear our uniform, I'd much rather wear my own clothes though. our skirt is so freakin uncomfortable!

    Is it by any chance a navy skirt?
    Man, those skirts rocked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,169 ✭✭✭ironictoaster


    kateos2 wrote: »
    we also got a letter today saying that "as a special concession you may wear a white aertex t shirt without a tie for the exams, although the rest of the uniform must be worn"

    wtf?

    That's just ridiculous


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,590 ✭✭✭Pigwidgeon


    creggy wrote: »
    wtf?

    That's just ridiculous

    they're a bit too focused on uniform in the school, it's weird,
    as with a lot of things in the school ....
    someone set one of the paper bins in the toilets in the prefabs on fire this year, they didn't even bother phoning the fire brigade and we were all back in within half an hour, sitting in smokey classrooms, not fun for those of us with asthma!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,893 ✭✭✭Davidius


    We didn't have to wear them during the mocks but we do in the real thing. The reason being is that the real thing isn't in the PE hall.

    Seems like a very minor thing for them to worry about or even care about. I honestly don't really care that much and would rather avoid a confrontation and keep my record clean. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 418 ✭✭Nanaki


    You're still in your school. You still have to follow the school rules.
    Also, no school should stop you taking off jumpers if you're warm.
    If that's the issue, get a parents' petition. They can't force you to wear a jumper iirc.
    No school will ever listen to students, I know, I've tried. But most will heed parents more seriously.
    Parents, or the parents committee.
    We'd gorgeous weather for exams last year. Thus bringing on my fricking hayfever >_<
    Either way, hope it's the same this year, going camping for the first weekend of exams :P
    Best of luck to all, and yes, if your school rules require uniform (which imo, all should) you have to wear it. Don't try and argue it, it shouldn't matter a crap to you at this stage.
    There's more important things worth your time and effort


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 hotshot_rf


    i dont believe this thread actually exists. your doing one of the most important exams of your life and you worrying about what you have to wear? would suit you better to do a bit of study!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 697 ✭✭✭Saruwatari


    Hmm, I don't think we have to wear uniform... besides, since today was my year's last day, everyone was ripping each other's trousers, jumpers and shirts to bits! We won't have any uniform to wear! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,566 ✭✭✭GrumPy


    phasers wrote: »
    My uniform is uncomfortable, too warm and to be quite frank after a year of work and lack of exercise, too tight.


    That'l be the pies. Lay of em' and get your study on. School uniforms suck ass, but you'll only EVER have to wear it for two more weeks or whatever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 418 ✭✭Nanaki


    [rant]
    Stop whining and get on with your damn study.
    No uniform can be that bad that it distracts you from the bloody exam.
    [/rant]

    Seriously.
    If your rules state a uniform is necessary, then it is necessary.
    That doesn't change just because you've to sit in one room for a few hours more than usual.
    If you're too warm, it's not that difficult to take off your jumper. You can hardly be thrun out of the exam centre for that.

    I agree with the previous poster. I don't understand the amount of posts in this thread. They're needless so far as I can see


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Posting takes about 12 seconds. It hardly stops me from studying. All you people whingeing about us whingeing is even stupider imo.


    GrumPy I hate pies :( , I bame the lidl that opened across the road from my house.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If anyone wants to take off their jumper, do! Your school principal will not be left into the classroom in which the examinations are being held. It it highly unlikely that the Superintendent will not allow you to take off your jumper.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭Guitarist-JEM


    hmm if you were wearing your uniform but had pink hair would they let you sit it?:D..i think its absolutely RIDICULOUS that theres still a uniform code...im worried though could you really not be allowed do your exam if you had like a mad hair colour even?:o


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