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[article]IRB Council approves ELV recommendations

  • 14-05-2009 10:59am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    Interesting.

    Also will the Lions tour use these rules then?

    http://irb.com/newsmedia/mediazone/pressrelease/newsid=2031276.html#irb+council+approves+elv+recommendations

    The International Rugby Board Council today ratified recommendations made by the IRB Rugby Committee and approved 10 of the 13 global Experimental Law Variations (ELVs) for adoption into the Laws of the Game.

    The recommendations were unanimously approved and the integrated set of Laws will be implemented globally from May 23 or from the start of the next domestic season where competitions transcend the implementation date.

    In addition to the suite of global ELVs, three Union-specific ELVs were also approved for integration into Law. These include the ability for a Union to implement a maximum 15-minute half time in matches under its jurisdiction.

    “One of the recommendations of the ELV Conference held in London at the end of March was the universal application of one set of Laws that govern the Game as soon as possible after Council. This was recommended by stakeholders from the international Game, including some of the world’s top Coaches, Referees and Administrators,” said IRB Chairman Bernard Lapasset.

    “The implementation date approved by the IRB Council achieves that goal and represents the most suitable application date. All international matches from May 23 onwards will be captured, while domestic and regional competitions played across the implementation date will be played under the current ELVs until their conclusion,” added Lapasset.

    “Today’s announcement brings to an end the extensive global ELV consultation and evaluation process which began with the Conference on the Game in Auckland in January 2004. The IRB would like to sincerely thank its Member Unions for their participation in what has been an unprecedented review of the Laws of the Game,” added Lapasset.

    The IRB’s Laws of the Game will be updated and available to view online in a range of languages at www.irb.com from Thursday, May 15.

    ELVs adopted into Law

    The following ELVs are to be adopted into Law:

    Law 6 – Assistant Referees able to assist Referees in any way the Referee requires
    Law 19 – If a team puts the ball back in their own 22 and the ball is subsequently kicked directly into touch there is no gain in ground
    Law 19 – A quick throw may be thrown in straight or towards the throwing team’s goal line
    Law 19 – The receiver at the lineout must be two metres back away from the lineout
    Law 19 – The player who is in opposition to the player throwing in the ball must stand in the area between the five metre line and touch line and must be two metres from the line of touch and at least two metres from the lineout
    Law 19 – Lineout players may pre-grip a jumper before the ball is thrown in
    Law 19 – The lifting of lineout jumpers is permitted
    Law 20 – Introduction of an offside line five metres behind the hindmost feet of the Scrum
    Law 20 – Scrum half offside line at the Scrum
    Law 20 – The corner posts are no longer considered to be touch in goal except when the ball is grounded against the post

    Union-specific ELVs approved by Council:

    Unions may implement rolling substitutions at defined levels of the Game

    A Union having jurisdiction over a Game may implement a half time interval of not more than 15 minutes, but not at international level

    A Union may implement the Under 19 Scrum Law Variation at a defined level of the Game under its jurisdiction


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,407 ✭✭✭✭justsomebloke


    ye it would appear that the Lions tour will be using these rules


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Whats the word on the maul?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭Downtime


    Pulling down is illegal again - pretty obvious from Ruggybears post i would have thought. The maul was never out in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Downtime wrote: »
    Pulling down is illegal again - pretty obvious from Ruggybears post i would have thought. The maul was never out in the first place.

    Thats great news... The Munster pack are delighted I'd say!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭Downtime


    Thats great news... The Munster pack are delighted I'd say!

    seven of them are anyway. the other will take a while to be cheered up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭DonkeyPokerTour


    Downtime wrote: »
    seven of them are anyway. the other will take a while to be cheered up.

    Fair Play first genuine LOL in a while! :D


  • Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭ Brixton Unimportant Backward


    They are already starting to introduce more of these bloody things.
    This one is going to be introduced in the upcoming internationals.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/2410599/Ruling-could-clean-up-rugbys-breakdowns

    "The International Rugby Board (IRB) is hoping a new law ruling could help clean up the breakdown, referees manager Paddy O'Brien said today.
    O'Brien said the ruling, approved by the IRB council "may make a difference to the dynamics of the tackle.

    Under the ruling, if the tackler or the first person arriving at the breakdown had their hands on the ball, they were now entitled to keep their hands on the ball, even though a ruck had formed."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,023 ✭✭✭Tim Robbins


    Under the ruling, if the tackler or the first person arriving at the breakdown had their hands on the ball, they were now entitled to keep their hands on the ball, even though a ruck had formed."
    That's a very interesting idea.

    I don't think the maul shouldn't be allowed in the other teams 22. It encourages too many tries that are just up the jumper cr*p.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    That's a very interesting idea.

    I don't think the maul shouldn't be allowed in the other teams 22. It encourages too many tries that are just up the jumper cr*p.

    There is a certain 13 man code you may be interested in then. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Under the ruling, if the tackler or the first person arriving at the breakdown had their hands on the ball, they were now entitled to keep their hands on the ball, even though a ruck had formed."

    Take it from a 6... this will only end in tears.

    Dont see why we need to bother touching the rucking laws (Re: hands on at least)


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  • Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭ Brixton Unimportant Backward


    Take it from a 6... this will only end in tears.

    Dont see why we need to bother touching the rucking laws (Re: hands on at least)


    By my interpretation of that rule,in theory if you arrive to see a 6 with their hands on the ball you can ruck the hands off them as you please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭suppafly


    By my interpretation of that rule,in theory if you arrive to see a 6 with their hands on the ball you can ruck the hands off them as you please?

    ya that would be my understanding too.

    In theory this rule might sound good but i think it will just slow the ball down more in the ruck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    suppafly wrote: »
    ya that would be my understanding too.

    In theory this rule might sound good but i think it will just slow the ball down more in the ruck.

    agreed but it would make it a genuine contest for the ball


  • Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭ Brixton Unimportant Backward


    I dont understand how the rule will help at all.

    All I could possibly see it doing is making sure the team challenging for the ball dont get a penalty for hands on the ball and slowing it down.
    It will allow them to slow it down as much as they want and then give the attacking team an excuse to do some serious damage to their hands legitimately,or in a worse case scenario the player holding on can hold on for dear life,get rucked and then still not let go and recieve a penalty for excessive use of the boot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    I dont understand how the rule will help at all.

    All I could possibly see it doing is making sure the team challenging for the ball dont get a penalty for hands on the ball and slowing it down.
    It will allow them to slow it down as much as they want and then give the attacking team an excuse to do some serious damage to their hands legitimately,or in a worse case scenario the player holding on can hold on for dear life,get rucked and then still not let go and recieve a penalty for excessive use of the boot.

    ^^^

    I literally meant, this will end in tears.

    I suppose in my head I can see what they're going for.. and with perfect clear-out technique (the kind that only seems to work when coaches are showing it off in slow motion...:D) you'd be able to retain possession... but in reality what will happen is the Quinlans, ODriscolls and Elsoms of the world (ie, the "breakdown bollockses") will be able to singlehandedly destroy a teams momentum, and win a fair few scrums while they're at it.

    Then again, maybe these IRB fellows actually know what theyre talking about


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