Likes & Dislikes - windows.

mobile01 · 14-05-2009 10:07am #1

Hi guys,
This thread mainly focuse on the likes & dislikes about windows operating systems
most people using Windows operating system, so shuldn't have n e trble, this is just a survey so any opinion would appreciated :
Windows Xp
Windows Vista
Windows Sev7
please refrain from using abusive words, as the comment posted here will be used to analyse the impact of windows in the current market scenerio.

Thanks in advance.

Capt'n Midnight · 14-05-2009 11:32am

mobile01 wrote: »

Hi guys,
This thread mainly focuse on the likes & dislikes about windows operating systems
most people using Windows operating system, so shuldn't have n e trble, this is just a survey so any opinion would appreciated :
Windows Xp
Windows Vista
Windows Sev7
please refrain from using abusive words, as the comment posted here will be used to analyse the impact of windows in the current market scenerio.

Thanks in advance.

You're doing market research into the impact of windows ?

I didn't hear the word please, nor do I see what you are contributing.

I'm just so tempted to lock this one.

mobile01 · 18-05-2009 8:16am

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

You're doing market research into the impact of windows ?

I didn't hear the word please, nor do I see what you are contributing.

I'm just so tempted to lock this one.

well i know where u coming from but this is only for my college assignment not a publishing stuff... i guess its clear for u know.thanks.

banquo · 19-05-2009 3:59pm

Here's one things that always annoyed me: the shortcuts in the left panel (My Computer, My documents, etc) aren't customisable. I use three or four folders consistently and would LOVE to have them as shortcuts there.

Simple things like that.

FruitLover · 19-05-2009 4:31pm

banquo wrote: »

I use three or four folders consistently and would LOVE to have them as shortcuts there.

Stick them on your quick launch bar.

Kevster · 20-05-2009 11:36pm

With Windows, you have to ask yourself one question: What are the better alternatives? The answer (in my own opinion), is that there are no better alternatives.

Kevin

mobile01 · 26-05-2009 8:52pm

thnks guys..for your opinions... but i would appreciate more ppl having a look reply to thread... it would be gr8....

thanks in advance....

Capt'n Midnight · 26-05-2009 11:36pm

In fairness you've had two weeks and have had two opinions.

The only reason I didn't close this earlier was because I wasn't sure it was commercial market research.

Please use google to check out how many companies are installing XP on machines bought with Vista licenses. Factor in that professional IT people know a bit more about security and usability and have to support it and have to bare the costs associated with reinstall and configuration and you'll have an idea of how successful Vista has been in areas where people can change it at a cost.

I'm sure there are other surveys like this on line (again google) and you could do a survey of surveys

DonkeyStyle \o/ · 27-05-2009 7:42am

I find windows perfect in every way.

An Fear Aniar · 27-05-2009 4:14pm

The question is too general. Are you talking about Windows for the home user or in a corporate/business setting?

I don't use Windows at home anymore, I use Ubuntu Linux. What I disliked about Windows?

1. Paying for a license.
2. Having to run anti-virus software
3. Constant paranoia about security
4. UAC - Vista
5. Painfully slow startup and shutdown
6. Windows suddenly deciding that it's going to shut down

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-osborne- · 27-05-2009 4:20pm

booting the computer OMG!i turn on the computer,leave the room watch a tv program come back and its still not loaded

kaimera · 27-05-2009 9:56pm

-osborne- wrote: »

booting the computer OMG!i turn on the computer,leave the room watch a tv program come back and its still not loaded

tbh, thats yer own fault I'd say rather than windows itself.

27-05-2009 10:48pm

Well I hate the way both recent releases have produced an interface overhaul. From 95 to XP the changes were very little, hey XP is (visually) simply 2000 with a skinning system added to it. As long as XP does what I want it to do I don't see any need to change.

-osborne- · 28-05-2009 7:35am

kaimera wrote: »

tbh, thats yer own fault I'd say rather than windows itself.

its not litterly that slow but i've 4gb of ram so i would expect it to be faster

AlmightyCushion · 31-05-2009 12:44am

An Fear Aniar wrote: »

1. Paying for a license.

Ditto.

An Fear Aniar wrote: »

2. Having to run anti-virus software
3. Constant paranoia about security

I never worry about security on windows. I have regularly gone months without an anti virus or anti spyware program and not gotten any viruses/malware. Common sense is the key.

An Fear Aniar wrote: »

4. UAC - Vista

Agreed. Luckily it can be turned off. Thankfully uac isn't that big a pain in windows 7.

An Fear Aniar wrote: »

5. Painfully slow startup and shutdown
6. Windows suddenly deciding that it's going to shut down

Never had a problem with either of those. Had slow startups when running xp on a pretty under powered machine but that's to be expected.

Kevster · 31-05-2009 12:48am

Windows is fantastic. When I was studying Computer Science I had to grind my teeth together each time a student/lecturer made a critical remark about Microsoft. Like, if they don't like them, then don't friggin use their products. Microsoft have revolutionised the home computer business.

Gavin Cotter · 31-05-2009 1:00am

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Ditto.
I never worry about security on windows. I have regularly gone months without an anti virus or anti spyware program and not gotten any viruses/malware. Common sense is the key.

Just reading this thread and had to comment.Are you being serious or sarcastic?

AlmightyCushion · 31-05-2009 1:07am

Gavin Cotter wrote: »

Just reading this thread and had to comment.Are you being serious or sarcastic?

100% serious. There is a lot of malware made for windows but as long as you apply some common sense you'll be fine.

Kevster · 31-05-2009 1:09am

I haven't had any anti-virus software on my PC for a few years now and have only had one spy-ware program (which I removed successfully). The key really is just what AlmightyCushion said: common sense. If you know how the spyware/viruses work, then it's simple to contain and remove them.

Kinetic^ · 31-05-2009 1:12am

Just make sure you're not on dodgy sites or downloading from dodgy sources and you'll be fine.

AlmightyCushion · 31-05-2009 1:16am

Kevster wrote: »

I haven't had any anti-virus software on my PC for a few years now and have only had one spy-ware program (which I removed successfully). The key really is just what AlmightyCushion said: common sense. If you know how the spyware/viruses work, then it's simple to contain and remove them.

Exactly but if you have common sense you won't have to remove them at all. One recent example I can think of. My sister recieved a message on bebo from someone she hasn't seen in years. The message was something like "funny video of you" and then linked to some russian site. She should have asked herself a) why this person would have a video of her (remember they haven't seen each other in years) and b) why she'd upload it to some russian site instead of youtube. Anyways she went to the site, installed some codec it asked her to install and fúcked up her pc (I don't know if the anti virus software alerted her or not). If she had just thought about it for a second or two she would have realised there was something a bit off about it.

Gavin Cotter · 31-05-2009 1:42am

Interesting outlook you have.Common sense would have prevented your sister in contemplating even downloading that codec,thats true.Couldn't agree with you more there. But don't you feel that, having an av running, would aid in alerting you to malicous software running on your computer.

Kinetic^ · 31-05-2009 1:45am

Viruses are one of the main reasons I use linux for email/browsing/downloading. Cuts out a lot of the threats. Then I use Windows for gaming only.

AlmightyCushion · 31-05-2009 1:52am

Gavin Cotter wrote: »

Interesting outlook you have.Common sense would have prevented your sister in contemplating even downloading that codec,thats true.Couldn't agree with you more there. But don't you feel that, having an av running, would aid in alerting you to malicous software running on your computer.

Oh definitely. I generally do use an anti-virus software. The months I've gone with out one is usually after installing windows and I just haven't gotten around to installing an anti virus software on it

Gavin Cotter · 31-05-2009 2:08am

So you do run an av on windows. And you do worry about security on windows.You've changed your mind so?

AlmightyCushion · 31-05-2009 2:25am

Gavin Cotter wrote: »

So you do run an av on windows.

I never said I never use security software just that I've regularly gone months without any.

Gavin Cotter wrote: »

And you do worry about security on windows.You've changed your mind so?

I wouldn't neccessarily say having security software installed is worrying about security. If it was something I was worried about, installing security software would be the first thing I install on a new system, it's usually the bottom or close to bottom of the list of things to install.

StopNotWorking · 31-05-2009 2:33am

As above I don't use much AV on my windows installs. Either because of virtualisation, firewalls and common sense I don't feel I need it. I have AV installed but that's only to scan removable media.

What do I not like about windows? Well the fact everything works on it, it requires minimal work to get going in the first place and little maintanence.

Dislikes? Paying for it obviously, Lack of customisation and..thats really it I suppose.

dulpit · 31-05-2009 3:17am

Things i like about windows: it's polished look & feel, i really like the look of 7. It's a solid OS, security is only a worry if you're a bit stoopid when being online (i've had my own computer (2 laptops) for nearly 2 years that only I was using, running vista and now windows 7, i have an anti-spyware program running but i rarely run it (it does run in the background all right though) and i've never had any spyware/viruses on the laptops. Common sense ftw.

Also, windows just works with everything, you don't need to worry about work arounds for your mp3 player or a certain piece of hardware etc.

Things i don't like about windows: the cost. And the fact that although it has a nice look and feel, there's no customisation or big differences available like the different flavours of Linux that are out there...

Gavin Cotter · 31-05-2009 7:30pm

AlmightyCushion wrote:

I never worry about security on windows. I have regularly gone months without an anti virus or anti spyware program and not gotten any viruses/malware. Common sense is the key.

AlmightyCushion wrote:

Oh definitely. I generally do use an anti-virus software. The months I've gone with out one is usually after installing windows and I just haven't gotten around to installing an anti virus software on it

AlmightyCushion wrote:

I never said I never use security software just that I've regularly gone months without any.

AlmightyCushion wrote:

I wouldn't neccessarily say having security software installed is worrying about security. If it was something I was worried about, installing security software would be the first thing I install on a new system, it's usually the bottom or close to bottom of the list of things to install.

Ok i think I grasp what your saying.When you install a new operating system, you don't worry about security.It's right at the bottum of your list of things to install.You've regularly gone months without using any, as you've not gotten around to it.You don't worry about it because, if you did, you would install it straight away, and not months later.

I've a few questions if you don't mind. How do you know you didn't get any malware or virus in those months you've went without them?
And when you install an anti virus months down the line, do you feel any safer?

What I like and dislike about windows.

It simple to use and is the best operating system out there for the average user.

Kevster · 02-06-2009 12:39am

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Exactly but if you have common sense you won't have to remove them at all. One recent example I can think of. My sister recieved a message on bebo from someone she hasn't seen in years. The message was something like "funny video of you" and then linked to some russian site. She should have asked herself a) why this person would have a video of her (remember they haven't seen each other in years) and b) why she'd upload it to some russian site instead of youtube. Anyways she went to the site, installed some codec it asked her to install and fúcked up her pc (I don't know if the anti virus software alerted her or not). If she had just thought about it for a second or two she would have realised there was something a bit off about it.

Your sister in this incident had no common sense (with regard to computers and the Internet). I have been using computers my entire life and don't need AV software. I am well attuned to the methods used by spyware, hackers (used to be one myself), etc. If I received such a message on my bebo page (http://www.bebo.com/kevsteropilopidous_1), then I would have right-clicked on the link to see where it directs to before clicking on it. I would also have hovered the mouse over the entire message to see if it was merely an image that linked to a dodgy site.

Epic Tissue · 02-06-2009 1:18am

I don't use any antivirus software.

What I like about windows(7):
It feels better to use than most alternatives
aeropeek
default keyboard shortscuts (I can use them all any windows pc, whereas if I customized them then they obviously would not work on another pc)

What I dislike:
Only one desktop

An Fear Aniar · 02-06-2009 1:55am

dulpit wrote: »

Also, windows just works with everything, you don't need to worry about work arounds for your mp3 player or a certain piece of hardware etc.

It doesn't though. Usually you have to download drivers from the manufacturers websites.

For example, I bought a Samsung digital camera. It came with a CD for Windows. I just plugged it into my Linux system and it worked straight away, no CD needed. Same for my Philips MP3 player, which also came with a Windows CD which I didn't need.

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Blazer · 02-06-2009 6:21am

Most cameras will work fine in windows too.
It will recognise the built in storage etc..the cd is just the software bloat.

What I really want from Windows is instantaneous bootup times.
These quotes of 20secs boot up are a pile of crap.
I've SSDs in all my pc's and none of them boot within 20 secs..more like 40-50secs.

I want to be able to switch on my pc and voila it's on.
Why can't MS set up the boot so as to boot the minimal OS services required and set all the rest for delayed startup once on the desktop?

dulpit · 02-06-2009 11:45am

Mathew Reilly wrote: »

Most cameras will work fine in windows too.
It will recognise the built in storage etc..the cd is just the software bloat.

What I really want from Windows is instantaneous bootup times.
These quotes of 20secs boot up are a pile of crap.
I've SSDs in all my pc's and none of them boot within 20 secs..more like 40-50secs.

I want to be able to switch on my pc and voila it's on.
Why can't MS set up the boot so as to boot the minimal OS services required and set all the rest for delayed startup once on the desktop?

It sounds like you might have a lot of start up programs... If you clear out the unnecessary ones startup can be quick enough...

Blazer · 02-06-2009 4:29pm

dulpit wrote: »

It sounds like you might have a lot of start up programs... If you clear out the unnecessary ones startup can be quick enough...

I've a few

but hell I still want it faster..most of the crap I've turned off like Nero and all the other bull.

Epic Tissue · 02-06-2009 5:24pm

Mathew Reilly wrote: »

Most cameras will work fine in windows too.
It will recognise the built in storage etc..the cd is just the software bloat.

What I really want from Windows is instantaneous bootup times.
These quotes of 20secs boot up are a pile of crap.
I've SSDs in all my pc's and none of them boot within 20 secs..more like 40-50secs.

I want to be able to switch on my pc and voila it's on.
Why can't MS set up the boot so as to boot the minimal OS services required and set all the rest for delayed startup once on the desktop?

Mine boots in around 20 seconds:cool:

Blazer · 02-06-2009 7:17pm

Epic Tissue wrote: »

Mine boots in around 20 seconds:cool:

yep..it can be done with a lot of tweaking /turning of services /setting them to delayed etc...but I want MS to do this out of the box..no screwing around .

02-06-2009 8:37pm

Mathew Reilly wrote: »

I've a few but hell I still want it faster..most of the crap I've turned off like Nero and all the other bull.

Maybe hibernate instead of shutting down? However I'd still recommend doing a full reboot now and again.

JonathanAnon · 02-06-2009 9:04pm

FruitLover wrote: »

Stick them on your quick launch bar.

Get rocketdock. www.rocketdock.com

Blazer · 03-06-2009 5:10am

Karsini wrote: »

Maybe hibernate instead of shutting down? However I'd still recommend doing a full reboot now and again.

would cost you a fortune in esb

system is running quad-core and a 4870X2..

03-06-2009 8:06am

Hibernation doesn't use any additional power. It dumps the contents of the RAM to disk and powers off the machine, so the power consumption would be the same as if you shut it down. You can even pull the plug if you like. Suspend/standby/sleep does use power, maybe that's what you assumed I was referring to.

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