I want to be bullied

mikemac

Unregistered wrote: »

but I need an attack, I really need the challenge.

Get a callcentre job, maybe Eircom/UPC or eflow as obvious examples
You'll get more abuse in a week then most get in a year!

Or get a job as a traffic warden and start lashing out the tickets. You'll need to be made of stern stuff :pac:

smegmar

Unregistered wrote: »

I male
Up until I was 18 I was regularly bullied, I find it hard to admit that I was and that I was hurt by it.
Now I am older not by much but I have more sense now and I have worked hard on making myself a very confident and strong person.
The problem is I have no way of proving it, I desperatly want someone to try and bully me so I can lay down the law like I should have back when I was younger.
I have tought about being different to lure people into bullying me but this is just silly. I need this terribly, I need to prove that I am what I think I am.
I have worked hard to strip away any fantasies I had about myself, like believing I was strong etc I saw myself for what I was and became stronger by seeing the truth.
Now I just want to prove to myself that all my hard work has paid off, I am no longer living a lie in my head.
I need a situation where I can prove to myself my new found strength of character.
I'm not a complete warmonger, I want to get along with people above all else and will give them the benefit of the doubt, but I need an attack, I really need the challenge.

Well done Sir.

It's so rare to find people who need this drive, and it is an amazing thing.
Now days it's all no bully policy and political correctness. Fools can't see it is the greatest hardship in our lives that gives us the drive we need to accomplish so much. We need someone to torment us, to deride us. So we have the inner drive to prove them wrong.
Look at any case example of genius in any field and you will see some torment the gave them access to their full potential.
Issac Newton, "Eminem", Paul Merton, Sigmund Freud, countless others all account bullying in their youth as a key factor in their drive toward greatness.
You many not believe me but the simple truth is

BEING BULLIED IS GOOD FOR YOU

Nervous Wreck

smegmar wrote: »

Well done Sir.

It's so rare to find people who need this drive, and it is an amazing thing.
Now days it's all no bully policy and political correctness. Fools can't see it is the greatest hardship in our lives that gives us the drive we need to accomplish so much. We need someone to torment us, to deride us. So we have the inner drive to prove them wrong.
Look at any case example of genius in any field and you will see some torment the gave them access to their full potential.
Issac Newton, "Eminem", Paul Merton, Sigmund Freud, countless others all account bullying in their youth as a key factor in their drive toward greatness.
You many not believe me but the simple truth is

BEING BULLIED IS GOOD FOR YOU

You're skewing a truth. Overcoming adversity is key to anyone's social/emotional development... But the application of your emotions/drive/whatever afterwards decides whether you move on to greatness (in whatever form) or move back into a self-sustaining cycle of self degradation. In the OP's case, he wants to use his experiences in a negative way, seeking revenge for his past (or that's how it appears in the first post anyway). This is a really negative application, the positive being taking onboard his experiences and growing from them.

What you're doing is making a half-assed connection between over-coming adversity and becoming suddenly great, neglecting to pay attention to the details of this particular scenario. And that's quite irresponsible, given the nature of this board.

poisonated

smegmar wrote: »

Well done Sir.

It's so rare to find people who need this drive, and it is an amazing thing.
Now days it's all no bully policy and political correctness. Fools can't see it is the greatest hardship in our lives that gives us the drive we need to accomplish so much. We need someone to torment us, to deride us. So we have the inner drive to prove them wrong.
Look at any case example of genius in any field and you will see some torment the gave them access to their full potential.
Issac Newton, "Eminem", Paul Merton, Sigmund Freud, countless others all account bullying in their youth as a key factor in their drive toward greatness.
You many not believe me but the simple truth is

BEING BULLIED IS GOOD FOR YOU

I actualy agree with you up to a certain extent
Being bullied is good for some..eg if you are walking around feeling sorry for yourself and no one is giving you the drive and the motivation to become something.Bullys can actualy motivate people to do something with their lives,it may not feel like it at the time but bullys harden you up in a way.That doesnt change the fact,however, that bullys are low life scum!

wolfric

smegmar wrote: »

Well done Sir.

It's so rare to find people who need this drive, and it is an amazing thing.
Now days it's all no bully policy and political correctness. Fools can't see it is the greatest hardship in our lives that gives us the drive we need to accomplish so much. We need someone to torment us, to deride us. So we have the inner drive to prove them wrong.
Look at any case example of genius in any field and you will see some torment the gave them access to their full potential.
Issac Newton, "Eminem", Paul Merton, Sigmund Freud, countless others all account bullying in their youth as a key factor in their drive toward greatness.
You many not believe me but the simple truth is

BEING BULLIED IS GOOD FOR YOU

It either breaks you or makes you. Unfortunately it often leads to suicide and low self esteam. It isn't being bullied that makes you stronger. Its being bullied and then having it stop and getting back on your feet with confidence. If you don't have the oppertunity or support then you simply crumble. Think of it like muscles. If you don't excerise them at all they are weak. If you excerise them non stop they cramp and don't work for a week and hurt like ****. If you excercise them on and off and give them time to recover and rebuild then they grow stronger.

nyarlothothep

What? Newton et al got to where they were because of their talent and application, it had nothing to do with bullying. You're confusing a challenging environment with humiliation/suffering. This is a poor line of reasoning.

RossFixxxed

All crime is committed by the living. Therefore living itself is the crime... it's logical... but it's wrong!

Adversity can test and help us... bullying is a snide, pathetic cowards act that can undermine and set people back at a young age. I do agree we need to be snapped out of moping, but that's not the way.

r

Slow Motion

smegmar wrote: »

Well done Sir.

It's so rare to find people who need this drive, and it is an amazing thing.
Now days it's all no bully policy and political correctness. Fools can't see it is the greatest hardship in our lives that gives us the drive we need to accomplish so much. We need someone to torment us, to deride us. So we have the inner drive to prove them wrong.
Look at any case example of genius in any field and you will see some torment the gave them access to their full potential.
Issac Newton, "Eminem", Paul Merton, Sigmund Freud, countless others all account bullying in their youth as a key factor in their drive toward greatness.
You many not believe me but the simple truth is

BEING BULLIED IS GOOD FOR YOU

I don't agree with personal abuse and certainly not in this forum! I would just like to point out though that your post sir, is an idiot!

RossFixxxed

I'd also add that Paul Merton, Eminem etc suffer from serious issues like bipolar etc too.... They have many times stated they have not had happy lives...

smegmar

To all those who disagree with my former post, I want you to examine this logic. The human form is the pinnacle of biological evolution. Apt, Nimble, Flexible, Strong and adaptive. this greatness in design did not come by chance, but by the harsh realities of evolution through survival of the fittest. It is solely because the hardship suffering and death of many Millions that we are so perfectly formed. Most of this is past through our genes, inheriting the strengths of our parents, but we humans have evolved even further then genes, we now have a cognitive mind, supposedly the first species in existence. So like the first fish to wander onto the earthen plains we have to develop to harsh conditions. We mush build thick skin and swiftness to avoid the new mental attacks. We need the bullying to give us eventual greater level and eventual immunity.
Hypothetically if our world had been designed as perfect and cosy, with no beasts to attack us in the night we would never have evolved beyond the base creatures. Weak, lazy and un-intelligent, sack of blubber.
Evolution has moved the the mental plain and we must move with it. Smack some sense into the weak so that they may develop strong

My name is URL

smegmar wrote: »

Smack some sense into the weak so that they may develop strong

I've never seen such total bull**** in all my life.

If Darwin was alive today he'd die at the thoughts of his great theories being used to excuse barbaric behavior.

We need the bullying to give us eventual greater level and eventual immunity

wtf

If we evolve to be 'immune' to bullying then bullying evolves parallel to it.

Evolution is driven by survival, yes.
But being bullied is not a survivalist issue, it's much deeper than that.

Nervous Wreck

smegmar wrote: »

Weak, lazy and un-intelligent, sack of blubber.

Funny, that's exactly how I was going to describe your application of this theory to a situation that, though it shares vital points, is totally different.

tomar-re

smegmar wrote: »

Well done Sir.

You many not believe me but the simple truth is

BEING BULLIED IS GOOD FOR YOU

Have you any idea of the real world? Maybe we should call fat kids names cos that will help them loose weight? Why not just kick scrawny kids until they hit the gym?
If you attack some people they will percivere but others will crumble, your mindset smacks of those that quote Nietzsche to justify why they bully people.

Also on the flipside do you actually think that having more bullies out there is a good thing? Its not great to have more emotionally stunted and abusive individuals inflicting emotional pain on others.

Gemini Sister

Hi OP.

I know someone like you. He was bullied/belittled as a child.

He found his voice as he hit his twenties and also turned into a really fit man. Unfortunately he was so repressed before that for so long that he turned into a total loudmouth agro knob. A complete loudmouth loaded bullet. e.g. once, in a muslim country, he went from restaurant to restaurant raging about why couldn't he get a hotdog? (muslims don't eat pork and he knew it).

I think he just needed to 'redress the balance'. Finally he grew out of it naturally though being being beaten up helped. Nowadays he's a really sweet man (who may have started the jihad).

You have the great advantage of knowing that you're bulling for a fight and why. You've copped on early. Take up a sport, not so you can kill people but just to burn off some agro. You'll be fine.

RossFixxxed

'Being bullied is good for you'.

'Evolution'


That's NOT evolution, the fittest is NOT necesarily the fastest, strongest etc. You are going into social darwinism there, see how well that worked for Enron etc. The 'fittest' is the most suitable to the enviornment. You are advocating something that undermines peoople, that gets under their skin and more times than not makes them WORSE. Being LOUD, OVERBEARING and as SNIDE LITTLE BULLY does NOT make you the alpha in a group and is NOT how we evolved.

I've see the effects many times, first hand and through professionals I'm friends with who have to pick up the pieces.

I suggest you read some books, and if you're gonna be all tough love and evolution that you get your facts right. Your logic is OK but your whole initial axiom is wrong, wrong, wrong my man.

R

smegmar

I've got to come in here again and sort out all you "politically correct" peons, that are ruining our society if not the human race.

Yes I accept completely suppressive bullying will do long term damage to the mental state of anyone, but it's not right to try stop the bullying, that just doesn't work. We need the structure to support those being bullied to strengthen them to the hard ships of the world. At some point we've got to realize it's up to them to fight their own battles. What ever happened to "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me" That's what we've got to instill into these kids, and that is the mental immunity they will strengthen them.

My name is URL

smegmar wrote: »

I've got to come in here again and sort out all you "politically correct" peons, that are ruining our society if not the human race.

Yes I accept completely suppressive bullying will do long term damage to the mental state of anyone, but it's not right to try stop the bullying, that just doesn't work. We need the structure to support those being bullied to strengthen them to the hard ships of the world. At some point we've got to realize it's up to them to fight their own battles. What ever happened to "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me" That's what we've got to instill into these kids, and that is the mental immunity they will strengthen them.

Bullying is not a static phenomenon. It can vary hugely in how it manifests itself.

Building an immunity to it is not as easily done as building an immunity to a virus etc.

As we change, our outlooks and emotional balance changes... bullying will still exist and will manifest in different ways.

Sure people that are bullied should do things to change their outlooks on themselves but it's certainly not a case of 'building a mental immunity' to it, because even if people are immune to the classic description of what bullying is, the bullies themselves are still doing what they do.

In essence your idea would require people to lose their human nature, and I can't think of a more horrible thing than that tbh

Nervous Wreck

smegmar wrote: »

What ever happened to "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me"

Actually, isn't that a Disney-fied bastardisation of the original saying "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can also hurt me."?

Nevyn

Can we keep on topic please.

OP you are still not over being bullied as a child, if you were you would not be looking for confrontational situations in which to try prove yourself.

Overheal

Smegmar dont you go to ITcarlow? I know i recognize the name from somewhere..

aaanyway. I don't know why, if you have a real desire to fight it out with someone, why you dont just take up boxing?

smegmar

Note: I never have gone to Carlow IT

waferthinboy

Unregistered wrote: »

I male
Up until I was 18 I was regularly bullied, I find it hard to admit that I was and that I was hurt by it.
Now I am older not by much but I have more sense now and I have worked hard on making myself a very confident and strong person.
The problem is I have no way of proving it, I desperatly want someone to try and bully me so I can lay down the law like I should have back when I was younger.
I have tought about being different to lure people into bullying me but this is just silly. I need this terribly, I need to prove that I am what I think I am.
I have worked hard to strip away any fantasies I had about myself, like believing I was strong etc I saw myself for what I was and became stronger by seeing the truth.
Now I just want to prove to myself that all my hard work has paid off, I am no longer living a lie in my head.
I need a situation where I can prove to myself my new found strength of character.
I'm not a complete warmonger, I want to get along with people above all else and will give them the benefit of the doubt, but I need an attack, I really need the challenge.

I completely undertstand you, I went through the same as you, bullied until I was 18. Only people who have been through this can understand it. I also want to be bullied - except I won't fight back. Unlike you I haven't really changed since school. <SNIP>

Wexfordboy89

I was bullied myself when I was younger.from you saying you want someone to try and bully u now so you can say something kinda makes you a bit of a bully.I avoid confrontations if I am I often dont say anything.its much better to.just walk away because the bully will get peed off if they think they didnt get to you.its honestly not worth the hassle responding waste of time on someone not worth your time.just my option

dudara

Closing this thread as it's from 2009.

dudara