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Our Lady of Fatima - May 13th

  • 12-05-2009 12:56pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭


    The feast day of Our Lady of Fatima nd Our Lady of the Eucharist are tomorow, May 13th.


    Here is what happened:

    http://www.loveandmercy.org/loveandmercy/fatima.htm

    The Miracle of the Sun is a miraculous event witnessed by as many as 100,000 people on 13 October 1917 near Fátima, Portugal. Those in attendance had assembled to observe what the Portuguese secular newspapers had been ridiculing for months as the absurd claim of three shepherd children that a miracle was going to occur at high-noon.

    According to many witness statements, after a downfall of rain, the dark clouds broke and the sun appeared as an opaque, spinning disk in the sky. It was said to be significantly less bright than normal, and cast multicolored lights across the landscape, the shadows on the landscape, the people, and the surrounding clouds. The sun was then reported to have careened towards the earth in a zigzag pattern, frightening some of those present who thought it meant the end of the world. Some witnesses reported that their previously wet clothes became "suddenly and completely dry."

    Estimates of the number of witnesses range from 30,000-40,000 by Avellino de Almeida, writing for the Portuguese newspaper O Século, to 100,000, estimated by Dr. Joseph Garrett, professor of natural sciences at the University of Coimbra, both of whom were present that day.

    The miracle was attributed by believers to Our Lady of Fátima, an apparition of the Blessed Virgin Mary to three young shepherd children in 1917, as having been predicted by the three children on 13 July, 19 August, and 13 September 1917. The children reported that the Lady had promised them that she would on 13 October reveal her identity to them and provide a miracle "so that all may believe."
    According to these reports, the miracle of the sun lasted approximately ten minutes. The three children also reported seeing a panorama of visions, including those of Jesus, the Blessed Virgin Mary, and of Saint Joseph blessing the people.


    Additional Visions of Jacinta
    Our Lady appeared to Jacinta several times between December 1919 and February 1920. Our Lady told her many things including:

    "The sins of the world are very great ... If men only knew what eternity is, they would do everything in their power to change their lives.”
    "You must pray much for sinners and priests and religious.”
    "Priests must be pure, very pure. They should not busy themselves with anything except what concerns the Church and souls. The disobedience of priests and religious to their superiors and to the Holy Father gravely displeases Our Lord.”

    "Fly from riches and luxury; love poverty and silence; have charity, even for bad people.”

    "More souls go to Hell because of sins of the flesh than for any other reason.”

    "Certain fashions will be introduced that will offend Our Lord very much.”

    "The Mother of God wants more virgin souls bound by the vow of chastity.”

    "Woe to women wanting in modesty.”

    "Confession is a sacrament of mercy and we must confess with joy and trust.”

    "Many marriages are not of God and do not please Our Lord.”

    "Let men avoid greed, lies, envy, blasphemy, impurity.”

    "Never speak ill of anyone. Never complain or murmur. Be very patient, for patience leads us to Heaven.”

    "Our Lady can no longer uphold the arm of her Divine Son which will strike the world. If people amend their lives, Our Lord will even now save the world, but if they do not, punishment will come.”

    "If the government of a country leaves the Church in peace and gives liberty to our Holy Religion, it will be blessed by God.”

    "Tell everybody that God gives graces through the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Tell them to ask graces from her, and that the Heart of Jesus wishes to be venerated together with the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Ask them to plead for peace from the Immaculate Heart of Mary, for the Lord has confided the peace of the world to her.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭toiletduck


    It's really hard to read that. And if you're going to copy and paste from wiki it would be nice to acknowledge that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭O'Coonassa


    Shouldn't this type of thing be on the Paganism forum? It makes me feel ill just thinking about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭Genghiz Cohen


    The sun?
    Drying clothes!?
    Casting rainbows!?
    /cynical


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭hairyheretic


    O'Coonassa wrote: »
    Shouldn't this type of thing be on the Paganism forum? It makes me feel ill just thinking about it.

    Nope. She's one of yours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭O'Coonassa


    Nope. She's one of yours.

    Ishtar, Isis, Danu or whatever else you want to call the Queen of Heaven she's belonging to the Pagans.

    God doesn't have a mammy at all


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    This forum is meant to be a place where Catholics can post too. I personally hold that the Bible is the centre and foundation of Christian belief, but there may be some interested in what allegedly happened with this Fatima incident.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,026 ✭✭✭kelly1


    O'Coonassa wrote: »
    Shouldn't this type of thing be on the Paganism forum? It makes me feel ill just thinking about it.
    What's Pagan about it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭noel farrell


    off hand looking for signs and wonders


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    off hand looking for signs and wonders

    Only jesus can bring stuff back to life :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,245 ✭✭✭✭Fanny Cradock


    This thread is ~1.5 years old.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭booksale


    i am curious about that.

    i mean, this kind of stories. i once was shown a video about this.

    well, i am not a Catholic and i dont pray to Mary. i prefer to pray directly to Jesus Christ my Lord. and i think if Mary was used to bring people to God, the final destination of prayers would be to God, not to anyone else. but i dont think it's not possible that God works that way.... i mean using others Christians, signs and wonders... etc.

    i do believe God uses different ways to bring people to Him, signs and wonders. even nowadays. but we should not look for them. but be happy to receive them if it happens.

    and in the Bible, God sometimes sent angels to people instead of showing Himself. So, for me, this kinds of signs and wonders were from God. God was just using Mary to draw people to Him...

    correct me if you think my thinking is wrong.... or please tell me your angle of thoughts.

    for those who believe in this story of Fatima, why?

    for those who don't, why not? and do you feel that it's a lie or what it is then if it did not really happen.

    cheers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,927 ✭✭✭georgieporgy


    I believe in the story of Fatima because the historical evidence proves it to be true. Anyone who really wants to know the facts can easily look them up.

    Booksale, your observations are excellent. There is no hint of prejudice in your comments. Anyone who searches in this fashion will have no difficulty finding the truth.


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